Images & Words or SFAM?
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Topic: Images & Words or SFAM?
Posted By: zeqexes
Subject: Images & Words or SFAM?
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 16:56
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Both of these Dream Theater albums are rated virtually equal on PA, so I wondered which really is the preferred one. I vote for SFAM. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 16:59
| I've yet to get into those. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 17:18
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I have to think long before I vote. They are about equally good. ------------- 
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Posted By: voliveira
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 17:33
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This is a very, very hard choice... If I could vote for both, but as I can not ... I think my final choice is the SFAM ------------- "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be" Matthew 6:21 |
Posted By: Pietro Otello Romano
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 17:33
I was in love with Dream Theater sometime ago', a love that started when I listened Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From A Memory, Images and words too cold for me.
 ------------- "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be." Mother Night - Kurt Vonnegut |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 18:29
| Don't really know. I really like DT a lot, but both albums have many songs that I love, and many others that I just don't care about. I guess I could say I like them both about the same. |
Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 18:39
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It's a tough choice but I'd pick SFAM by a hair every time - it's always been my favorite, and I'm a sucker for concept albums. ------------- http://tinyurl.com/cy43zzh" rel="nofollow - My 2012 List 
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 21:01
| A simple and tough question! I'll vote for Images And Words, I think the melodies are a little better. |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 21:14
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where's the "dream theater? please, no" option? :P
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 21:16
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Metropolis 2. I don't like Images and Words. I much prefer Awake! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 21:18
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Tough question.
I'll go with I&W. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 23:24
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Metropolis Pt. 2
------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: January 02 2013 at 23:27
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Scenes. More varied and better composed, with one of the best concepts ever created for a prog album.
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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: January 03 2013 at 00:01
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When Petrucci and Rudess pass their solos back and fourth with Myung's tight ass bass lines in the second half of Beyond this Life, I realize why people love this band so much. Then Through Her Eyes starts and I feel like killing myself. Either way, Scenes from a memory ------------- I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: January 03 2013 at 05:46
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Images and Words aka the only reason why I like Dream Theater. SFAM starts out great, but goes south from "Beyond This Life" onwards. And the concept strikes me as an unnecessarily convoluted story about nothing in particular. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 03 2013 at 05:57
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SFAM quite easily for me. Images And Words if Ok but nothing special. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: January 03 2013 at 06:59
| I discovered DT with Images and Words and became hooked for a long time, and it has the additional value of its historical significance, it sort of created a genre, which deserves my respect. However by now, although I still love half of it (from Metropolis till the end) the first half of the album has started to sound dated, too hair-metal or too cheesy. As a whole I think that Scenes From A Memory is a more accomplished work. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 03 2013 at 14:49
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Wanorak wrote:Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: January 04 2013 at 16:49
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Images & Words -------------  
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Posted By: RedNightmareKing
Date Posted: January 04 2013 at 20:36
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Oooooh, this is a toughie. I'm a die-hard DT fan, and these are both excellent, excellent albums. Now, SFAM has such variation and the concept is very superb. However, I feel like it gets a little cheesy at times (The Spirit Carries On, anyone?). I&W, on the other hand, is just balls-out prog metal with some great power ballads. Plus, Metropolis Pt 1 is by far my favorite DT song next to Octavarium and The Count of Tuscany. So in conclusion, I&W is the clear winner even though SFAM is very good also. ------------- I consider drone metal to be progressive... |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 03:42
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SFAM is really the only DT I listen to anymore on purpose.
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Posted By: AlexDOM
Date Posted: January 05 2013 at 09:46
| The conceptual nature of SFAM gives it the edge |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 21:16
| The one with Comfortably Numb on it. |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 21:45
is this a real thing? they actually covered it? ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 21:53
I was joking  |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 21:54
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I & W
------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 22:05
not funny man, I just had a flashback to when I first heard Korn's cover of Another Brick In The Wall and it was not pleasant! :P ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: January 06 2013 at 22:11
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^ You should hear how Marilyn Manson covered "Sweet Dreams". What dreck.
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Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 08:18
| Images & Words, without a doubt. But SFAM is the best thing they've done w/ JR, IMO. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 09:27
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SFAM for me Great album ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 20:15
As a matter of fact, DT did cover Comfortably Numb. It is included on their Official Bootleg of the Whole Dark Side of the Moon (which is, or was, available through Portnoy's web page "Ytse Jam Records"). The album is a cover from the whole Dark Side album, plus an extra CD with several covers from other Floyd songs (including Sheep, the first half of Echoes, Hey You, and I don't remember, some other songs). The Comfortably Numb song is played by both Dream Theater and Queensryche together (if I remember which the other band was correctly). However, I must say they could have done a better job with the cover. First, Queensryches vocalist does Waters parts, while LaBrie does Gilmour's, while I feel the other way around would have worked much better. Then, given that they are metal bands, they might have taken the idea from "Delicate Sound of Thunder" version of the song, in which the first part is played somewhat heavier, and I feel it would have sounded pretty nice to include some even more metally riffs for that part in this version. And then, in the end, once again they might have taken Gilmour's lead on his live versions of the song, and make the final solo longer and go all whacky with Petrucci's fast guitar playing. In the end, I guess they could have done something more interesting than what they actually did. But it's been the same story with just about all the covers DT did, they didn't make the songs their own, they just made faithful covers. |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 07 2013 at 21:39
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I don't like Images & Words, and Scenes from a Memory is my favorite metal album. Easiest poll ever.
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Posted By: ElectricPoetry
Date Posted: January 08 2013 at 10:09
| This one is so close for me... But I think it has to be Scenes From a Memory. |
Posted By: dbrozz
Date Posted: January 08 2013 at 18:52
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I&W for me. Close call though. And +1 for Awake! |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: January 24 2013 at 13:22
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Images and Words, classic DT, still one of my faves (though I was blown away by A Dramatic turn of Events).
SFAM contains everything I DON'T like about the band and drags on for far too long. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 01:11
| SFAM |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 01:49
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Scenes has it's moments (Overture/Strange Deja Vu, Home, Finally Free) but I find it to be about a 3.5/5 album. It gets bogged down in the repetition of themes, lame balladry, and lack of texture. It's funny because I actually like the ballads on Images and Words and even of Falling into Infinity. Maybe it's just that I find the soulful, gospel side of things bland in some way. There's just a ton of layers to Images and Words, which may be chalked up to cheesiness in retrospect, but consider the sheer variety of keyboard and guitar sounds on that album. There's a lot going on, and I think Dream Theater never again made an album of songs that were composed so well for their length. They hold my attention for 8, 9, 10, 12 minutes, always offering something new the next minute. I'm not a big fan of concept albums anyway. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Cthulhu42
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 02:00
| I used to slightly prefer SFAM to I&W, but recently it's switched to the other way around. |
Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 02:08
| Images and Words for sure. One of my top 10 albums. I've got no problem with Scenes from a Memory whatsoever, though. I just don't think it's as good by comparison. |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 06:14
Always Scenes From A Memory. Favourite prog metal album by a long way 
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 19:25
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I enjoy I&W wayyy more. Scenes from a Memory doesn't come close. That's not to say its bad though, just kind of lost interest in it ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ramza1316" rel="nofollow - www.last.fm/user/ramza1316 https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845 |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: October 06 2013 at 23:33
Same story here. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 07 2013 at 03:41
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Images & Words I like Awake more than those two though.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 07 2013 at 04:13
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Voted for SfaMf finally, but it's a close call. -------------
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 09 2013 at 05:17
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hard to choose - love both - Metropolis by a whisker ------------- 
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