The Strongest "Strong Personality" in Prog?
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Topic: The Strongest "Strong Personality" in Prog?
Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: The Strongest "Strong Personality" in Prog?
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 13:48
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Who's your favourite person, which is almost the exclusive author of all songs, overshadowing all the other band members and imprinting his unmistakable face to his bands or projects? ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 14:10
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Very good question and a difficult one to answer.
I'll not vote as I don't know much about vander, or Toby Driver, but out of the others I tempted to say Fripp. He strikes me as being the very heart of KC in terms of the approach to making the music they did. I get the impression it was Fripps philosophy to making music that underpinned the bands writing. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 14:32
Yes, I feel that I may seem ridiculous to someone, but I adore only one God and the King together - and this is Robert Fripp. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 14:36
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TOBY!!!!!!
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 14:42
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Vander's my favorite, but I think the "strongest personality" in the sense of egomaniacal control over the music would have to be Frankie Zappa, or possibly his wife.
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 14:42
| Definitely Zappa. Not just in prog: In rock music in general. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 14:46
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I think Fripp, but Waters and Anderson are very close, can you imagine them in the same band with Emerson keyboardist? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 14:52
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Peter Gabriel, I'd say.
No, that's not true. Tony Banks could never be dominated. Fripp then. Yes, I'll vote for Fripp. Or Jon Anderson? Yes, I think Anderson is the man. Peter Banks and Tony Kaye have bitten the dust with him. Or no, even better: Ritchie Blackmore. It wasn't easy for people being in one band with him. Well, I'll vote other.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 15:13
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Ian Anderson is Jethro Tull and God help anyone who disagrees with him. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 15:20
Can't vote till I hear Morse and Driver.
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octopus-4 wrote:Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 15:48
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Right now, Fripp or Hammill. Since Hammill has less votes, I'll help him climb. -------------  |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 15:53
Quoted for truth, although I'd like to vote for Miles Davis, but somehow that wouldn't be fair even if he is on PA... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 16:07
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Zappa is simply one of the biggest personalities in rock music in general
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 16:17
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Fripp. But Wilson had no votes, so I gave one to him. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 16:32
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Fripp or Zappa. Coin toss...Fripp. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 16:59
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Zappa.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 17:06
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Fripp ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 17:07
| Jon Anderson--he put the dick in dictator---might have a Napoleon complex. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 17:09
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Now that I'm reading the title of the thread carefully, I'm definitely gonna take more time to think about it.
Now, how did Ian get four votes? Who started all this talk of whether or not the size of the flute matters? Does that constitute a great personality? 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 17:17
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 18:13
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I think strongest personality has to go to Uncle Frank although my personal favorite would be Ian Anderson. I don't think I would have gotten along well with Zappa, but I think I could have a good conversation with Ian about a number of things including possibly the size of our flutes (I would love to show him my Native American cedar flute). ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 18:22
^ Eh? 
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 18:42
what exactly did he do? I don't know many details of the workings of the Yes camp but I thought they had a happy-go-lucky democracy deal going on? ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 19:07
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Ian Anderson by a very wide margin!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 19:14
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Ian Anderson becasue there is no Jethro Tull without him - and he has no problems writing liner notes to the albums and making appearances on exclusive youtube interviews. And he writes articles too in prog mags. Special mention to Hammill and Zappa who made an indelible mark on prog rock, impossible to ignore. ------------- 
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 22:16
Talking about Jon in the 70's ---I have read many accounts of how he pulled the strings in the group and pushed to remove members and bring in other's--Bill Bruford has some stories in his bio. I have an old collection of Melody Makers and He said in an interview in Melody Maker that members must, "pee or get off the pot"
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 00:28
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I never thought of Zappa as a person who was forcing him self too much on the rest of the band, but I could be wrong. On the other hand I read several interviews with KC's members stating Fripp is kind of an impossible dick. That's the reason so many musicians have passed through King Crimson, and in 1975 when Fripp decided it's all over, that was it until he decided differently. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 01:25
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 01:33
| ^ He did fire Martin Barre. |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 01:41
There was an interview for the 40th anniversary of CTTE lately, in which Bruford talked a bit about Jon's approach. In a nutshell, it was: Either you take my songs, no matter how awful they are, and make something good out of them, or you come up with better songs.
When was that?  |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 05:38
Ian Anderson
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 05:45
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An honourable mention for Uncle Rick Wakeman. Just because unlike some others he does seem quite nice! and funny. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 05:48
You didn't read the opening post did you?
Umm No. Sorry!
Well you're an idiot!
Look Sorry. I do normally. I won't do it again! (he lied)
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 05:57
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hmm yeah now that i read the OP extra carefully I think I would add Daevid Allen and Syd Barrett to the list for me, both are lovely songwriters and individuals
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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 06:45
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Wilson ------------- 
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 11:50
 And yes, I do have a real Native American cedar flute but I don't know how to play it properly. I can get some good sounds out of it though. Anderson, of course, usually plays a standard transverse flute. Cedar flutes tend to be thicker and shorter while transverse flutes are longer and narrow. Like people, flutes come in a variety of sizes.------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 19:42
As a matter of fact the way you explain Jon's aproach doesn't sound bad at all. |
Posted By: Iron Nate
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 21:13
Zappa for me. I love the fact that Neal Morse hasn't got a vote yet 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 21:59
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 22:12
| Drat. I thought we were voting on which personality is the strongest, which, of course, is Frank Zappa, but he is far from my favorite. |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 22:21
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All of them have "strong personalities", but I will have to vote Wilson, because: Uncle Bob is retired (so are Ian and Roger) Uncle Frank R.I.P. is no longer with us I don't appreciate Emerson, Vander and Morse all that much, and I seriously dislike Hammill I don't know who Toby Driver is |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 22:26
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Robert
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 07:22
I, too, think that proved to be a good aproach. Much the same as Waters' for The Wall I think. The other members, and Ezrin, have testified how "excrutiating" the demos were to listen to, but together they managed to make a rather brilliant dubble album out of them. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 07:35
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 10:24
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Let's say Robert Fripp.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 11:01
Sorry my bad, I thought the latest conflict between the two led to Barre's dismissal by Anderson. But no they just parted ways in the meantime. That's why TAAB2 wasn't a JT album. Thanks. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 11:43
 Maudlin of the Well and Kayo Dot are his most famous bands. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 20:03
| Literally impossible to say - at the moment I'm on a bit of a Morse bender - maybe next week could be Hammill, perhaps Vander..........but Morse it is. Such an incredible talent, and fun to watch him perform as well. But he is one of many.......... |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 23 2012 at 08:41
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Frank hands down.
Ian next up. Robert pulls in third. Everyone else is honorable mention. |