Perfect.....but for that ONE stinker!
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Topic: Perfect.....but for that ONE stinker!
Posted By: the only sane man
Subject: Perfect.....but for that ONE stinker!
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 14:14
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Do any of you have an album that is basically faultless....... bar that one total abomination that makes you go WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!???? The otherwise perfect album blighted at the last minute by an unwelcome musical turd popping up out of nowhere
 I'll give you mine for starters......
Dire Straits - Making Movies
Just completely sublime from the first bars of 'Tunnel Of Love' to the closing notes of 'Solid Rock'........and then we get 'Les Boys' - which makes me want to stick a rusty fork in my ears
 Oi - Knopfler!!! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 14:24
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The Lamb, Counting Out Time
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 14:28
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I got two right up front - and these two will be brought out and argued (both for and against) real soon. In the Court of the Crimson King - Moonchild and Red - Providence I've learned to simply skip over both. Here's another one that pops up pretty damn quick: Revolution #9 - Beatles. The white album is arguably one of the greatest musical releases of all time and here comes, oh lord, a sound collage that doesn't end.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 14:35
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I think Revolution 9 is one of the best tracks
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 14:38
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^ One of the entertaining ones, I'd say.
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 14:41
Was that... could it be... an attempt at humor?
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Dayvenkirq wrote:Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 14:47
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I've personally had some amazing times with Revolution 9
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 15:24
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The White Album wouldn't be half the album it is without Revolution 9. I think it's the pivotal track on the whole album. I'm serious. Sure, it's unpleasant, but oh, the mystique. Being the penultimate track on a huge album, an 8 minute insane ride through anything but music... and then "good night". Creepy as hell, and one of the most powerful statements the Beatles ever made. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 15:25
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I guess I'd say "D'yer Mak'er" pretty much ruins Houses of the Holy for me. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 15:37
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^Same for me. -------------  
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 15:39
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At first it kind of bothered me but now I love the track
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 15:53
| ^ "D'yer Mak'er", you mean? |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 15:56
| I can't get through The Yes Album without skipping "Your Move/All good people". It's torture. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 16:05
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 16:23
I love Dire Straits and Making Movies, but for me all of side 2 is a little lame. I don't hate Les Boys as much as everyone else, but I don't like the rest of side two as much as other people either. People who hate Moonchild and Revolution 9 don't understand music. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 16:28
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 16:35
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 16:44
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 17:03
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 17:06
| Understanding is one thing. Enjoying is another. |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 17:20
| Yeah, if I had to choose I'd rather enjoy than understand music any day. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 17:36
True, but they are not mutually exclusive, and I find one makes the other easier.  -------------
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 17:49
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 17:50
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 18:37
| "Benny The Bouncer" on ELP's BSS. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 18:46
I agree with that pretty much, though of course understanding is no guarantee of enjoyment. |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 18:58
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'Delilah' on Queen's Innuendo. It's a great album, but this song ruins everything, just everything. A disaster track and simply the most horrrible thing my fav band ever did.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 19:30
I think Party/Kashoggi's Ship is the worst thing they ever did, and that includes Hot Space. Delilah is generally pretty bad, but I enjoy May making his guitar sound like a cat. They are one of my very favorite bands too, but they have released some pretty terrible music. -------------
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 19:42
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Speaking of Queen, I'm of the opinion that "Sweet Lady" really stinks on an otherwise pretty flawless album (A Night at the Opera). ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 19:48
Party might suck, but Khashoggi's Ship is not a bad thing, just a generic hard rocker. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 19:50
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Faith No More - RV: Hardly listenable for me The Mars Volta - Miranda... That Ghost Just Isn't Holy Anymore: Prevents "Frances" from being my favorite TMV album, never mind it's 13 minutes long! Can - Aumgn |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 19:52
Miranda... is a great song. Maybe even the best on this album: excellent slow ambient intro, then some nice balladry. At least not as chaotic as most of their stuff. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 19:59
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'The Crunge' by Led Zep on Houses of the Holy. Pretty weak song on otherwise great LP. 'ProzaKc Blues' on The ConstruKction of Light'. Those silly distorted vocals set up some really wrong moods for this album, but without that track the album works perfectly for me. Especially LTIAptIV 'She Shook Me Cold' by Bowie from' The Man Who Sold the World'. A very boring song on a really outstanding album. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:02
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Maybe "Harry Irene" from Beefheart's "Shiny Beast" album. It's almost good, but... it's just not. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:10
Providence is great... it's a shame that it is so underrated. Indeed, very few people can enjoy it, but it simply doesn't make it any worse than it is. Moonchild is not a bad thing too, but maybe a bit long. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:15
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On Bruford's 'Feels Good to Me' there is one, or rather two tracks where the most peculiar thing Annette Peacock makes itself heard. Boy, that thing shaved 2 stars off the album's rating. On American Beauty, there is a track towards the end of Side A that must be skipped by every reasonable man, woman and child Let's Sleep Together on FOABP resembles - not sure how, but it does - Liam Gallagher, 'nuff sed. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:23
Gotta be Operator, sung by Pigpen I confess, I love the whole album.....it's my road trip album  . |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:24
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:24
 One of my favorites on it, actually. The closest to a "stinker" on the album (and it's still at least a 4+ star song) is Bring Me Coffee Or Tea. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:27
21st Century Schizoid Man and Moonchild are the only two tracks I really like off that album.  |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:28
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 20:31
Couln't disagree more about Moonchild. It is the most important segment of the album imho, how the instrumental part pave the way for the grandiose finale is simply mindblowing. ------------- |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 21:55
Yep. Speaking of Bowie (someone was anyway) I hate his version of Let's Spend The Night Together. The rest of Aladdin Sane is great though. -------------
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 22:28
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If I had to choose one track to listen to from Red, that would be Providence. It's not the best track off the album but it's certainly the one I enjoy the most, every second is a bliss!
My stinker is Part Of The Union from Bursting At The Seams by Strawbs, I always skip that one. I'm surprised no one mentioned More Fool Me...yet. I like it though. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 23:02
| ^ That's 'cause a lot of people around here think "The Battle" stinks too. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 23:07
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I would say "The Battle of Epping Forest". So dreadfully long...and utterly silly. Otherwise, Selling England by the Pound is a great album. As far as "Moonchild", great song for about 2 minutes. I could live without the several more minutes of minimalist crap. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 23:43
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I don't like that one song on Passion Play ------------- 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 03 2012 at 23:45
| ^ "The Re-Assuring Tune"? |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 00:09
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Epping Forrest is my favorite track on the album! More Fool Me and After the Ordeal drag the album down. ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 00:11
| ^ Oh, no, they so do not. A stinker-less album. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 01:54
for me its actually a fun little track that acts as a good lead into KE9 although it does seem out of place admittedly amongst the dark edginess of most of the album.
The other dodgy track is Still You Turn Me On mainly for the lyrics. The album would also have been much better without that and instead include the promotional track 'Brain Salad Surgery' .Every ELP album had to have the obligatory Greg Lake ballad it seems , mostly welcome.
Jerusalam
Brain Salad Surgery
Toccata
Karn Evil 9
ah thats better
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 01:59
Epping Forest is a novelty track but put together the length (10 minutes) and the fact its Genesis then you are supposed to think its genius . Its isn't. Horrid lazy peice of album filler imo.
I also don't want to hear I Know What I Like for the upteenth billionth time (it seems like anyway) . Don't mind More Fool Me so much although its a bit out of place. Rest of the album is genius though.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 06:53
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Maybe one of the more famous examples (though I personally like it) is "Mother" by the Police, from one of the biggest selling albums of the 80s, Synchronicity. You've got a nice, albeit diverse, pop album and all of a sudden Andy Summers (who's not a singer) sings this discordant, strident paranoid freakout song. I like it just because it's so over the top unpleasant sounding in the context of the album, that I just love the thought of teenyboppers hearing it for the first time. Imagine this song on the same album with "Every Breath You Take", "King of Pain", and "Wrapped Around Your Finger": ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 07:07
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A few tracks which don't ruin the entire album for me, but are poor compared to the other tracks: Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother - Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast Hamadryad - Safe in Conformity - One Voice Genesis - Selling England by the Pound - More Fool Me ------------- 
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Posted By: the only sane man
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 07:33
Great responses guys - keep 'em coming  I see a few people have mentioned 'More Fool Me' - I actually quite like that one, but would agree it's far from a classic. There aren't actually any Genesis tracks I truly loathe. Sure, there are a few later Collins era tunes that are pretty bland and fairly forgettable, but nothing that really makes me retch.........except...... Whodunnit! Now that one really does suck!!!  |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 08:03
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ABWH - Teakbois
Kansas Point of Know Return - Sparks of the tempest
Yes - 90125 - Owner of a lonely heart
Renaissance - A Song For All Seasons - She is love
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 08:30
Let's just call is the C***-song
A Roald Dahlean phrase came to my mind, 'The baby was so ugly that the parents didn't give it a proper name '. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 08:39
It really does, but Abacab is too far from perfect even without that extreme stinker. -------------
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 09:11
I like Mother. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 09:12
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I'm with those who think Providence takes the album down half a notch. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 09:29
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I can't think of anything and don't agree with the choices so far. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 10:50
Only good track on the album!
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 10:51
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Isn't it weird how we all like a lot of the same bands here but many of us appreciate lots of different things about them?
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 10:58
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Also, there's not a bad track on Houses of The Holy IMO. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 10:59
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/\ Agreed
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 10:59
True ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 11:16
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^I agree with that as well.
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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 11:59
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Despite the cool title, I've never been a fan of "Rat Salad" off of Paranoid, except maybe that little guitar solo early on.
Don't care for drum solo tunes on studio albums in general. "Moby Dick" off Zeppelin II has a great riff, but man that drum solo just goes on and on, as impressive as it is. Better suited for live shows. Thing is, I find "The Lemon Song" to be just ok except for the fast part which I dig, so I can't really say Zep 2 would be perfect only without "Moby Dick". The opening for the song after that is kinda hokey too, until it starts rockin.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 14:37
The only problem with it is that it would fit much better on side A I'm going to say "Rinde" off Magma's Attahk |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 15:30
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Providence > Red. I've recently begun appreciating Moonchild too. -------------  |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 02:05
| I quite like Providence which is unusual for me as I don't normally like anything improvised on a studio album. Good slow build up and is quite creepy to start with. Bruford might be one the few drummers who can play anything and make it coherent.Benefit of a jazz background perhaps? |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 02:10
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In the Court of the Crimson King - Moonchild
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Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 04:04
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Genesis - Nursery Cryme - The Return of the Giant Hogweed
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 05:59
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^wtf? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 11:58
wtf?
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 12:01
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 12:06
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The hogweed must have got him.
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Posted By: otto pankrock
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 13:06
| "Changes", from Sabbath's Vol.4. Great album except for that. Drivel!!! |
Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 14:01
It's a song about weeds Weeds are boring. I'm not a horticulturist. Ok sure the music is good but the lyrics seriously rile me, especially when Peter Gabriel sings 'Photosensitize'. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 14:49
 ..and I'm off now to listen to that epic about dinner
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 15:49
Really? I thought that was the most hilarious part. Well, besides Peter singing "Heracleum Mantegazziani" in his epic voice at the end. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 15:56
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Still, they're immune to all our herbicidal batterings.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 16:20
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^ Singing in that over-the-top voice, but I like this kind of over-the-top.
But Peter made weeds fun, entertaining! And I'm not a horticulturist, but I don't have to be to enjoy the music. A lot of us here said that we are in it mostly for the music, not for the lyrics. I'm not a big fan of the subject matter myself, but what kind of entertainment isn't silly (besides puzzles) ?
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Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 00:57
| Screw you guys and your fact based opinions, I'm going to listen to a song about vegetables, they're real good for you, they keep you regular. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 01:21
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 05:28
You know, that song is even better. A prune isn't really a vegetable. Cabbage is a vegetable. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 06:21
Vegetable Man - Syd Barrett Green Onions - Booker T and the MG's I Can Hear the Grass Grow - The Move or another one? -------------
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 07:04
Grass? Vegetable? Bit tenuous isn't it? 
How about (vegetarian) Supper's Ready? ------------- 
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 07:10
Good song that. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 07:11
Call Any Vegetable? ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 07:16
Vegetables - The Beach Boys is an awesome song. -------------
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 08:21
| I'm not sure if you guys really don't know what the song is or if you're just keeping the joke going. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 08:35
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Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 12:40
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Vegetables dream of responding to you.
No, I think I've ruined this topic now. I apologise. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 12:46
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Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: December 06 2012 at 18:18
Vegetable huh? Are vegitables Canned? (I like every song in this album by the way)
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