What Zeppelin album should I try next?
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Topic: What Zeppelin album should I try next?
Posted By: smartpatrol
Subject: What Zeppelin album should I try next?
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 20:34
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I listened to Led Zeppelin IV a few times and liked it. Wondering where to go next.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 20:35
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Houses is their best one so.. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Jbird
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 20:38
| II is my fav, but it's bluesier. They lost most of their blues roots by IV |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 20:43
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LZ You'll need to hear them all, including Presence.... By the way, Happy Birthday Andrew.....   |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 20:46
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thanks :D
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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 20:52
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You should try everyone of them. Led Zeppelin accomplished so much in their short carrer. If you love Zeppelin so much, you should try all their live albums, even Celebration Day. My other favorite album is Led Zeppelin III but you should go back and understand why these giant influenced so much bands. I reccomand you Led Zeppelin II, then Houses of The Holy, then the others. The first album is too recycled for my tastes. Again, Happy Birthday. 13 years old is the best gift ever. And I'm going to give you the album that I reccomanded you: This is great. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 21:04
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thank you :D
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 21:05
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Zeppelin debut ---> Physical Graffiti is mandatory rock'n'roll listening imo.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 21:13
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Physical Graffiti. My favorite Zeppelin album. Long proggy songs, plenty of hard licks, some acoustic and softer songs, a goodly amount of blues, and John Bonham drumming in rare form. Something for everyone in a 2 CD Set and very well done throughout. Both Page and Plant consider Graffiti as Zeppelin's high watermark. I would agree.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 21:21
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You should make a point of hearing them all, but my personal favorite is Physical Graffiti. One of the great all-time bands. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 22:08
hmm... if IV was your first, I'd say it make III your next; and don't listen much to us diehard Zep fans, we're all jaded  |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 22:31
| ^ LZ III is mostly acoustic stuff. That said, I'd recommend I or II, but really, I think you should try them all (just pretty much what most of the people above have said. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 22:42
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Everyone, I will try them all, this poll is just to see in your opinions what album I should try next.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 23:40
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Dayvenkirq wrote:Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 21 2012 at 23:42
| ^ That only means that I have some homework to do too. |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 01:16
| LZII's my favorite, but really their all great albums. |
Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 01:20
I'm shocked that Houses of the Holy doesn't have better reviews. In my opinion, easily their best album. The Rain Song may be Zeppelin's best song ever (yes, Zeppelin lovers get your rocks out to stone me). There's not one bad song on the album. Rain Song is epic, beautiful, (builds up to) rocking, MELLOTRON, HELLO?! and just plain awesome. ------------- Check out my FREE album: A one-man project The Distant Dynasty |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 01:33
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^ oh I think there's at least one bad song, in fact I can think of two; plus, TSRtS presents the material sooooo much better |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 03:59
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 05:10
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Physical Grafitti is their ultimate album. Has everything and is brilliant too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 05:20
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'Houses of Holy' is a fine follow-up to Led Zep IV.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 00:33
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I think my main problem with Houses it how it sounds; it's just so flat, mis-mixed and thin sounding, especially compared to the first four |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 08:25
^ You know, I felt that same way too, and yet I haven't even noticed that. Something just felt right about the production. Yes, it does weird how they slapped and lumped it. However, the band was capable of making some hell of a music that I didn't even think about the production. That's the Zep magic. 
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 08:28
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Their Third, definitely. It contains the superb IMMIGRANT SONG! |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 08:41
this and this |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 10:29
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From a prog perspective I voted for Houses although Physical Graffiti is nearly on par, if only because it has double material (and a cool cover in vinyl).
II is a seminal rock album but less interesting from a prog perspective.
But even before that I would recommend you to get the video of The Song Remains The Same, the tracklist is excellent and seeing them in their prime always provides something extra, an image is worth more than 1000 words as they say...
In Through The Out Door is usually bashed around here but I enjoy much of it too.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 10:37
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If you would like to explore their most progy tunes go for Physical Graffiti, being a double album it has some weak tracks as well. I believe if they would loose a few tracks it would become their ultimate album. But if you're looking for a classic Zep go for the first. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 17:37
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 17:38
I like it too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 18:21
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Yup, 'In Through The Out Door' is extremelly underrated.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 18:26
In through the out door certifiably sucks. A monster downer of an album, sloppy, uninspired. Coda was better.  No offense guys.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 19:04
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Coda is great, but Out Door is sublime. One of their best later albums; clean, mature, lovely. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 21:35
| Ok, that was a harsh assessment. But just curious....do you guys think it's a better album than anything that preceded it? |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 23:17
Well this will sound heretic to some but I prefer In Through The Out Door than I or III (I'm not too keen on blues-rock you know, although I reckon II and IV are really brilliant albums).
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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 01:01
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I've always thought Presence was their weakest album.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 02:03
Further, it showed a real advancement and, if you'll forgive, progression as well as an interesting new period for them when much of the composing & arranging was done by JPJ and Bonzo with Page on harmonic support and Plant adding elegant vocals; the first album after the death of Plant's son; and their last real studio LP (as Coda was outtakes). |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:07
| Buy Houses of the Holy if you want them at their proggiest, LZIII is you want them at their most acoustic, LZI if you want them at their bluesiest, and Physical Graffiti if you want their quintessence. LZII, although revered by many, is not a favorite of mine. It's good, but it can wait until later. Same with Presence, unless you really go for their epic tracks, in which case you might want it just for "Achilles Last Stand". In Through the Out Door and Coda should be your last two purchases. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:12
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I know these threads always get people talking about the band and the different albums, but I must confess that I feel younglins should find their own way through a band like Zep. No offence Andrew, you're a good kid - but you should do your own thing - just like you do your music. "Finding one's own path" (cue Yoda) is the way you come across diamonds in the rough, and years from now you'll be singing some obscure maligned Zep tracks praises. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:21
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just don't get like I did where you're selling your body on the streets for Zep bootleg $ ... 'course that's when boots were double LPs with full-color gatefolds and colored vinyl |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:32
 Aaaaaarrrgh stop it now you mad fruit you!And don't listen to him Andrew! Pears are notorious Stones fans. I want you back on the street in a jiffy in your finest and most skimpiest latex dress! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:43
No, but it's definitely miles better than Coda.
I really like it.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:50
I really like it as well Then again, there are bands that I just love without any shadow of doubt - and beyond reasoning. Ok maybe Zep isn't the best example, but I wouldn't think twice about awarding every Doors album with 5 stars - yes also The Soft Parade. Same with every Black Sabbath release up until Sabotage. Every note, lyric and atmosphere is ingrained in my mind and I can't for the life of me find any fault with any of it. Which is why I don't review them - too close and personal to be interesting. I think there are a lot of people who feel the same way about a band like Zep. That 7headedchicken reviewer here at PA obviously knows what I'm on about. Look at his distribution of 5 stars....------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 07:00
Definitely. No comparison really. I probably prefer it to I and II as well. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 09:10
So basically most of us agree it's a good album but it's currently rated with 2.88.  |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 10:03
Let me step up as a member of the apparently silent majority then and declare that I don't really like it. Well, it's okay, I gave it three stars, but I would say it's their worst studio album. |
Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 19:18
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Our young Padawan who started this thread should not overlook Presence and their most prog tune ever of "Achilles Last Stand". They were on fire on that one as they seemed to have a renewed aggressiveness after Plant's auto wreck. I never tire of that song after all these years, not to mention Tea is for One and Nobody's Fault but Mine (no matter who wrote that one). I find myself listening to Presence more than the others, mostly because of Achilles. Of Course Physical Graffiti is their Swan Song to me. For the most part you would be splitting hairs on all the albums up until the last 2 even though they are descent albums. If some other band would have recorded them, they probably would have been getting rave reviews. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 04:30
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I see you've checked out IV and PG, Andrew. That's probably their best ones. I would recommend you check out III next, especially if you like the acoustic parts of the albums you've already heard, but you really can't go wrong with any of their first six albums. Presence, ITtOD and Coda are good too, but I would recommend checking them out last (and also in that order). -------------  
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 10:58
| ^ Well, there is no telling where one can go right or wrong. E.g., I'm not quite keen on I, II and, III, though I do really enjoy IV and Houses and I kind of get PG. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 12:49
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 12:58
No, I agree, there's no telling where one can go right or wrong, but Andrew (smartpatrol) asked where to go next, and I answered him what I thought. -------------
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 15:07
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I'm thinking what I'll do know that I've listened to IV and PG is listen to HoH, sense it came between those two, then listen to their first three, and then their later three.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 15:12
Andrew, just enjoy the music, man. This is the very meaning of LZ - to let people have a good time, not just hop through the albums. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 16:38
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Well, Andrey, I agree with you, to some extent. The way you describe how you discovered the music of Renaissance is much the same way I discovered LZ, JT and GG, the three bands which music I hold closest to my heart, by going through their discography my own way and in my own pace. -------------
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 16:54
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I much prefer being recced stuff when it comes to checking out a new band. especially with stuff like prog, the issue i usually run into is when you get to the point where the band's music isn't very strong anymore and i end up sitting through a bunch of albums that aren't all that interesting just because i feel obligated to try them and see if there's anything worth there. so yeah i'd much rather have someone whose music taste i trust help guide me and tell me at one point in their discography a band isn't really worth bothering with.
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:42
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Zep I and II are my faves. Powerful blues and acoustic tunes, rawer in production, just great. III is less consistent, in my opinion, but has some lovely tunes. As for their best album, compositionally speaking, I think it's Houses of the Holy. It continues with IV more elaborated production. Presence and Physical Graffiti also have interesting stuff, some classic rockers. Yes, each Zep album has it's must-listens, and that's coming from a Deep Purple fan.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:55
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So far I've heard IV, HoH, and PG. IV is great, only a couple of songs I don't like. HoH is great, lots of great songs, great production, and can't really say I dislike any of them. PG is a mixed bag for me; lots of fantastic songs but about half of the album is meh. I think I'll go for II, III, and I next. followed by Presence, ITtOD and Coda.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:55
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:59
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How about 'How the West Was Won' ? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 18:08
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I don't like a lot of live albums
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 00:00
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I agree that PG, while it has many great songs, has too much filler as well.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 00:54
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I also used to be of the mind that Phys had filler, whether in material or what seemed like an attempt to stretch certain passages. But over time I realized that's mostly nonsense and that the album is truly one of the greatest in rock history. No one else had nearly the balls or skills to do anything like it and the fact that every second is not gold is irrelevant. The only questionable cut is 'Boogie with Stu'. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 01:12
| ^ ... I choose to ignore the balls and the skills. |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 06:24
Of out curiosity, which ones did you find meh? This is an album where most people seem to agree that is has filler but disagree which songs are actually the filler. In my book, the filler constitutes "Boogie with Stu", "Black Country Woman" and the excessive length of "In My Time of Dying" and "Trampled Under Foot". I also can't stand "Night Flight", but that's not really filler. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 07:02
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 07:03
| ^ Second half of CD 2, starting from Night Flight. But since I'm a LZ fan I don't mind listening to them and I even enjoy them, but definitely not as good as the rest. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 09:33
"Custard Pie", "Night Flight", "Sick Again", "Down by the Seaside". (grown to like the album a lot more sense I posted that) ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 10:28
I think it's a great blues song, with the Rolling Stone's Ian Stewart playing boogie-woogie piano (hence the title, "Boogie with Stu"), and a splendid mandolin riff by Page. Zeppelin added "Mrs. Valens" in the song credits because part of the song was from Richie Valen's' "Ooh, My Head". Zeppelin had heard that Valens' mom had never received royalties for any of Richie's songs, so they decided to include her. Unfortunately the publishing company that owned all of Valens' copyrights (and left his mother out) sued to get their piece as well, or as Jimmy Page explained: "What we tried to do was give Ritchie's mother credit, because we heard she never received any royalties from any of her son's hits, and Robert did lean on that lyric a bit. So what happens? They tried to sue us for all of the song! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogie_with_Stu#cite_note-6" rel="nofollow - " ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 10:50
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 10:56
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Yeah, the lyrics are what bug me.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 12:25
You can't really go wrong with any Led Zep imo, but I would go to II, followed by PG.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 22:06
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 22:10
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I think Time of Dying is a fantastic song; very powerful and moving
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 22:10
^^ Grows on you?  It's Led Zeppelin.
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Posted By: N-sz
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 00:50
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Physical Graffiti is my personal favorite, but I chose Houses of the Holy (probably my second favorite). I figure if you like IV, you'll definitely like Houses. Then again, if you think you really want to get into Led Zeppelin (which would be a good idea, because every song they wrote was excellent, if you ask me, other than maybe a few extras, like from Coda, which were still alright), then I always say, go with their first album and work your way up. ------------- https://blankspacerecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Blank Space Records |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 00:58
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 01:56
| ^ They can, but I thought that "In My Time Of Dying" is straight to the point. Oh, well. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 09:24
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 10:11
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Night Flight is one of my favorite songs on PG. I think the only songs I don't absolutely love on that album are "In My Time of Dying" (just a tad too long) and "Down By the Seaside" (neat sound to that track, but it makes me a little woozy and seasick).
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 10:32
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 11:04
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For me there isn't one weak track on PG. Some took a hell of a lot longer to get into but i totally love them all. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 11:27
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 11:33
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They didnt do a single bad album.
Even "In trough the outdoor", their last and less famous album is a feast , get everything.
Live album How We Won The West, is a must too.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 11:46
Honestly, though, I do like the song quite a bit -- I just don't LOVE it like I do most Zep. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 11:48
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 16:37
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^ Zeppelin concerts were never about presentation, but rather performance-- if you expect clean and flawless you'll be disappointed. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 04 2012 at 10:22
Yes I would say this is the one to get if you would like to explore some live Zep.
About Coda I always considered the reissue bonus tracks to be better than the original album.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 05 2012 at 07:47
No it wasn't, it was released later but consists of old, unreleased material.
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Posted By: humor4u1959
Date Posted: May 09 2013 at 23:36
I agree 100%. Good variety of styles and contains their epic, 'The Rain Song.' |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 00:44
| Dunno, really. I'm over Zep - had pretty much all their albums at one stage but only held onto 'III' and 'Prescence'. They all have decent stuff on them but I fell out of love with them ages ago. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 01:39
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It's six months since this topic started - how many LZ albums has Andrew heard now? How many still yet to hear? ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 18:39
Their epic...? Stairway To Heaven or Kashmir has always been considered their epic.....but maybe a Zep fanatic should chime in on this. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 18:58
| ^ Same old chit-chat about what is epic. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 19:24
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Achilles Last Stand was their epicest song ever.
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