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Topic: Dark, turbulent & mainly instrumentalPosted By: Mascodagama
Subject: Dark, turbulent & mainly instrumental
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:12
For quite a while now I have been on a kick where my main prog listening has been things like Guapo, Univers Zero, Present, Grails, Zaar, Sotos, Nought, Yeti, Tarantula Hawk, live recordings of 1973-4 King Crimson, and a bit of Anglagard. In Progarchives terms this spans a few sub-genres but there are common factors...can anyone suggest similar music I should investigate?
Thanks for any help.
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Replies: Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:24
Tangerine dream's RUBYCON and KLAUS SCHULTZE's , Vie electronique vol 1. It's brilliant with some dark eerie soundscapes that is completely instrumental. It's great. :)
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:32
I just reviewed an album/band yesterday which seems to fit these criteria. Norwegian project called "When". I found a playlist on Youtube of some of their material, though nothing from the album I reviewed. Still, might be your kind of thing:
My review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=857596" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=857596
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:38
Oooh, very interesting call with Klaus Schulze's `Vie Electronique - vol 1', Progbethyname! I was just listening to that last night at work (NOT a popular choice for others in my office! ). It's a very hypnotic and eerie, highly repetitive and chilly electronic album. Lots of long, drifting near-gothic isolating soundscapes composed on heavily treated organ. Very otherwordly music!
Mascodagama - Speaking of Schulze, I would highly recommend you try the following album if you want something dark and quite unnerving:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7632" rel="nofollow - Klaus Schulze - Blackdance
It's a VERY unpleasant but highly fascinating and draining musical experience. It's one of my favourite albums, I also wrote a fairly pretentious review of it here too!
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 15:43
Comus - First Utterance. Quite dark and strange folk prog.
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:08
progbethyname wrote:
Tangerine dream's RUBYCON and KLAUS SCHULTZE's , Vie electronique vol 1. It's brilliant with some dark eerie soundscapes that is completely instrumental. It's great. :)
Rubycon I have got on cassette tape (!) somewhere but have not listened to for many years. More synth-lead than what I was thinking of but has got to be worth a replay or two. I will dig it out again, also add the Schulze to my list. Thanks!
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:13
HolyMoly wrote:
I just reviewed an album/band yesterday which seems to fit these criteria. Norwegian project called "When". I found a playlist on Youtube of some of their material, though nothing from the album I reviewed. Still, might be your kind of thing:
My review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=857596" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=857596
This is very interesting to me, certainly the kind of thing I am looking for. Thank you for the suggestion & review.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:15
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Mascodagama - Speaking of Schulze, I would highly recommend you try the following album if you want something dark and quite unnerving:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7632" rel="nofollow - Klaus Schulze - Blackdance
It's a VERY unpleasant but highly fascinating and draining musical experience. It's one of my favourite albums, I also wrote a fairly pretentious review of it here too!
The more unpleasant the better so far as I'm concerned. It goes on my list, thank you.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:20
You need some Syrinx. French zeuhl/fusion band with loads of intricate dark and perplexing rhythms.
Also: Art Zoyd Haxan no links right now, but I recently wrote a review about it and gave it the full five beads. Menacing, occult, turbulent and wonderfully hypnotic.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:21
Sumdeus wrote:
Comus - First Utterance. Quite dark and strange folk prog.
It is one of my favourite albums - often played in this house (on headphones, as not everyone appreciates it). Thanks for the suggestion though!
You are probably aware, but the mighty Comus actually have a new album - 'Out of the Coma' - available. I don't have it yet so can't recommend one way or the other.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 16:34
Guldbamsen wrote:
You need some Syrinx. French zeuhl/fusion band with loads of intricate dark and perplexing rhythms.
Also: Art Zoyd Haxan no links right now, but I recently wrote a review about it and gave it the full five beads. Menacing, occult, turbulent and wonderfully hypnotic.
Unfortunately it looks like all these records are deleted, though they sound perfect for me
I did find a piece on Youtube for Syrinx which is quite compelling:
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 18:09
I picked up a few suggestions off this thread too! Checking out the Klaus as we speak.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 18:47
They're not always quite as dark, but you may enjoy Aranis. Big influence from the Univers Zero school of thought especially.
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 20:20
Toby Driver's solo album In The L...L...Library Loft might be right up your alley.
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 13 2012 at 21:26
progbethyname wrote:
Tangerine dream's RUBYCON and KLAUS SCHULTZE's , Vie electronique vol 1. It's brilliant with some dark eerie soundscapes that is completely instrumental. It's great. :)
... but in terms of instrumentation they are not even close to Anglagård (that I know of) and KC.
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 10:41
[QUOTE=Aussie-Byrd-Brother] Oooh, very interesting call with Klaus Schulze's `Vie Electronique - vol 1', Progbethyname! I was just listening to that last night at work (NOT a popular choice for others in my office! ). It's a very hypnotic and eerie, highly repetitive and chilly electronic album. Lots of long, drifting near-gothic isolating soundscapes composed on heavily treated organ. Very otherwordly music!
Mascodagama - Speaking of Schulze, I would highly recommend you try the following album if you want something dark and quite unnerving:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7632" rel="nofollow - Klaus Schulze - Blackdance
It's a VERY unpleasant but highly fascinating and draining musical experience. It's one of my favourite albums, I also wrote a fairly pretentious review of it here too!
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 11:28
SaltyJon wrote:
They're not always quite as dark, but you may enjoy Aranis. Big influence from the Univers Zero school of thought especially.
Interesting band - I've just been to their web site. Compared to UZ the music is amost...jaunty. But I like it!
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 11:33
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Toby Driver's solo album In The L...L...Library Loft might be right up your alley.
Oh - the guy from Kayo Dot, right? I am fond of their first two albums but haven't been in touch with the more recent stuff. I didn't know he had a solo record out, so thank you, will investigate.
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 13:07
That Toby Driver album is pretty good and dark.
Try Shub-Niggurath, you won't be disappointed.
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 19:46
What do you think?
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 19:55
Oh man.... that piece Alice floors me. Nice call. I think Sunn 0))) really broke some new ground on that last album. It's a shame they've taken so long to record a follow up. It's been three years now, hasn't it?
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 19:55
Polo wrote:
That Toby Driver album is pretty good and dark.
Try Shub-Niggurath, you won't be disappointed.
Yeah, it doesn't really get darker than Shub-Niggurath.
Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 20:06
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 15 2012 at 18:39
I was thinking about this italian albums:
Il Belleto Di Bronzo's "YS".
Metamorphosis' "Inferno".
Lots of keyboards and instrumental passages.
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 16 2012 at 06:42
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
What do you think?
It was wonderful, but to me not dark, in fact I found it rather uplifting!
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 16 2012 at 07:00
Polo wrote:
That Toby Driver album is pretty good and dark.
Try Shub-Niggurath, you won't be disappointed.
Really liking the doom-laden bass grumbling of Shub-Niggurath with operatic warbles juxtaposed...
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 16 2012 at 07:25
jayem wrote:
Thanks for the videos. Aviva Omnibus and Tiemko weren't quite my cup of tea...the track by Chance Machine is very interesting though. Other than a couple of tracks on Youtube I can't seem to find any information about the artist, do you know more?
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 16 2012 at 07:28
Dellinger wrote:
I was thinking about this italian albums:
Il Belleto Di Bronzo's "YS".
Metamorphosis' "Inferno".
Lots of keyboards and instrumental passages.
I will investigate further - thanks for the suggestions.
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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: November 17 2012 at 03:01
Mascodagama wrote:
Thanks for the videos. Aviva Omnibus and Tiemko weren't quite my cup of tea...the track by Chance Machine is very interesting though. Other than a couple of tracks on Youtube I can't seem to find any information about the artist, do you know more?
Yes I do...I'm the bloke. Nice to meet you! Have you checked the links on my youtube channel ?
In the mid-nineties I'd bought sound module Roland JV 1080, and spent quite much time exploring it (notably interested in LFO, flanged echos used as notes, pitch-bend soloing / tonefitting, alternative tuning).
Lately tracks like Scansion were remixed with drum + bass sampled sounds.
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 17 2012 at 19:19
Check out the Mexican group Arteria, they have a heavy UZ influence.
I'd also recommend Archaia, very dark & moody.
Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 09:32
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 03:59
jayem wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
Thanks for the videos. Aviva Omnibus and Tiemko weren't quite my cup of tea...the track by Chance Machine is very interesting though. Other than a couple of tracks on Youtube I can't seem to find any information about the artist, do you know more?
Yes I do...I'm the bloke. Nice to meet you! Have you checked the links on my youtube channel ?
In the mid-nineties I'd bought sound module Roland JV 1080, and spent quite much time exploring it (notably interested in LFO, flanged echos used as notes, pitch-bend soloing / tonefitting, alternative tuning).
Lately tracks like Scansion were remixed with drum + bass sampled sounds.
Pleased to meet you also! I have checked out your channel. I like what you did on these tracks, very interesting use of the Roland, are you still experimenting?
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 04:03
Padraic wrote:
Polo wrote:
That Toby Driver album is pretty good and dark.
Try Shub-Niggurath, you won't be disappointed.
Yeah, it doesn't really get darker than Shub-Niggurath.
I ordered the first two S-N albums and have also downloaded the third, Testament. I like it quite a bit, though to my ears they were no longer any type of rock band by this stage - this is a lot closer to the free jazz / improv part of my collection...
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 05:31
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Check out the Mexican group Arteria, they have a heavy UZ influence.
I'd also recommend Archaia, very dark & moody.
That is good stuff, especially the Arteria. Thank you!
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 05:50
Wow...that is intense. And fully improv! Thanks for the links.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:00
There's a Yugoslavian (Slovenian from memory, maybe Croatian) band I had an album of once. I don't think they're here at P.A. - it was too messed up and hideous for my taste so I got rid of it. The band name - LAIBACH. The album I had (don't recall its title) had some dark picture on the cover with a deer skull on it. Might be something you'd like.......
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:05
Tom Ozric wrote:
There's a Yugoslavian (Slovenian from memory, maybe Croatian) band I had an album of once. I don't think they're here at P.A. - it was too messed up and hideous for my taste so I got rid of it. The band name - LAIBACH. The album I had (don't recall its title) had some dark picture on the cover with a deer skull on it. Might be something you'd like.......
Is it this one?
I don't have Neu Konservativ, but I've got their Opus Dei album which is recommendable, if you're into dark industrial Faust-like stagnancy.
BTW Monsieur Ozric - may I just say thank you for all the music you've made me buy on a whim after reading one of your reviews. I am a small fortune poorer because of you and John the Mellotron So yeah thank you both....
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:17
Guldbamsen wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
There's a Yugoslavian (Slovenian from memory, maybe Croatian) band I had an album of once. I don't think they're here at P.A. - it was too messed up and hideous for my taste so I got rid of it. The band name - LAIBACH. The album I had (don't recall its title) had some dark picture on the cover with a deer skull on it. Might be something you'd like.......
Is it this one?
I don't have Neu Konservativ, but I've got their Opus Dei album which is recommendable, if you're into dark industrial Faust-like stagnancy.
BTW Monsieur Ozric - may I just say thank you for all the music you've made me buy on a whim after reading one of your reviews. I am a small fortune poorer because of you and John the Mellotron So yeah thank you both....
Sir Guldbamsen !! Nice to make your on-line acquaintance . Slight detour from the topic-at-hand....I can't recall the title at all (must be dementia....). Love reading your reviews - I don't review often enough (and I think I over-rate in many cases...). Mellotron John on the other hand......twas your's and John's review that prompted me to get the vinyl of Amoeba Split recently. Aaah yeah, those hills of Grey and Pink......a far cry from Shub Niggurath...Thanks to all.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:26
Tom Ozric wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
There's a Yugoslavian (Slovenian from memory, maybe Croatian) band I had an album of once. I don't think they're here at P.A. - it was too messed up and hideous for my taste so I got rid of it. The band name - LAIBACH. The album I had (don't recall its title) had some dark picture on the cover with a deer skull on it. Might be something you'd like.......
Is it this one?
I don't have Neu Konservativ, but I've got their Opus Dei album which is recommendable, if you're into dark industrial Faust-like stagnancy.
BTW Monsieur Ozric - may I just say thank you for all the music you've made me buy on a whim after reading one of your reviews. I am a small fortune poorer because of you and John the Mellotron So yeah thank you both....
Sir Guldbamsen !! Nice to make your on-line acquaintance . Slight detour from the topic-at-hand....I can't recall the title at all (must be dementia....). Love reading your reviews - I don't review often enough (and I think I over-rate in many cases...). Mellotron John on the other hand......twas your's and John's review that prompted me to get the vinyl of Amoeba Split recently. Aaah yeah, those hills of Grey and Pink......a far cry from Shub Niggurath...Thanks to all.
The feeling is mutual good sir Hahah gotta love the internet eh?
I'm glad that Amoeba Split album reaches somebody's ears, because it is quite frankly stunning. Not often you come across albums that keep all of the quintessential Canterbury flair intact.
In keeping with this thread though, and before we get ahead of ourselves - what about some Finnish Krautrock a la CAN?
I give you Circle:
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:30
Poor Mascodagama, we're hogging his thread ........
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:35
Tom Ozric wrote:
Poor Mascodagama, we're hogging his thread ........
Well just a little bit.... Though in all fairness, that last Circle recommendation were also directed at him. Dark, turbulent and mainly instrumental. Should tick at least two of those boxes methinks.
Hey ho before I forget - I read a review of yours concerning a French band called Nyl. Is that something that fits within this thread? They were after all French....
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:53
Guldbamsen wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Poor Mascodagama, we're hogging his thread ........
Well just a little bit.... Though in all fairness, that last Circle recommendation were also directed at him. Dark, turbulent and mainly instrumental. Should tick at least two of those boxes methinks.
Hey ho before I forget - I read a review of yours concerning a French band called Nyl. Is that something that fits within this thread? They were after all French....
NYL - no, not dark at all, just primo psych. Great little album. How about Amon Duul II's 'Yeti' ?? That's one fantastic listen.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 03:57
Hell yes!
I believe it was my good friend HolyMoly(Steve) who recently reminded me of just how earshatteringly heavy that one is. The stuff of paint peelers and werewolves. One of my absolute favourite albums
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 04:06
Hey, why not try Peter Hammill's 'In Camera' ?? P.H. does Goth.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 04:13
I don't actually have that Hammill album yet, but your description of it makes me want it!
Though, and here I am speculating, I don't imagine it being mostly instrumental....
Getting back to the French. I can't believe a band like Nebelnest hasn't been mentioned yet!
NOT the best of sound qualities, but I guess the gist is there:
Or else try their Myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/nebelnest" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/nebelnest
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 04:23
Wow - Nebelnest !!! This is the stuff dreams are made of......
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 04:28
Tom Ozric wrote:
Wow - Nebelnest !!! This is the stuff dreams are made of......
Remind me not to wander inside of your dreams whenever my sandman machine is ready to fly....
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 04:33
Guldbamsen wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Wow - Nebelnest !!! This is the stuff dreams are made of......
Remind me not to wander inside of your dreams whenever my sandman machine is ready to fly....
I don't even wanna say what constant listening to UZ's 'Heresie' album did to my dreams.......
American band YETI hits the spot.......
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 04:44
Yeti is unknown to me. But judging by the name alone, I should love it like I love flutes with butter.
Allright Tom - I have to log off now and make sensible things such as water my mother's orchids and prep a nice little pasta sauce.
Cheers man - nice to meet you!
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 08:39
Guldbamsen wrote:
Yeti is unknown to me. But judging by the name alone, I should love it like I love flutes with butter.
I can vouch for Yeti. Dark Zeuhlish heavy music from the USA. I was actually given their first demo to review (back when I was writing for Expose') and loved it so much it made my top 10 of that year. Thick distorted bass, creepy synthesizers, dark riffs. Kind of like "De Futura" turned into a band concept. I also have their debut "Things to Come" and it's like the demo but more fleshed out and cleaner sounding (not always a plus).
edit: wait.... flutes with butter you say?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 13:21
OK three pages before I put my two cents in and I want a penny for my thoughts.
Try John Zorn's Ipsissiumus and get back to me.
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 16:10
I'll second (or third?) Yeti. Kind of like an instrumental, garage band version of Magma.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 17:59
Porcupine Tree's Steven Wilson's side-project 'Bass Communion' - some very dark and eerie soundscapes there - especially 'Ghosts on Magnetic Tape'.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 20:23
Steve! Flutes in Denmark are a type of bread. Butter is if course highly recommended, but only if you enjoy smoothness and white in yellow. Something has to give, I don't like pineapple. Bonjour.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 21:03
GOBLIN. thee quintessential band of dark and turbulent.
Good album is ZOMBIE. eerie, dark ominous music at its finest from the Italian greats. ;)
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Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 21:18
Wow...that is intense. And fully improv! Thanks for the links.
Glad yr enjoyed it heheh........thing i love abt Supersilent is whatever they do its still got a ROCK and PROG edge to it, its not free jazz or scrapy improv (nuthin wrong with those but you know what i mean).......
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 01:08
GuldbamsenFlutes in Denmark are a type of bread. .[/QUOTE wrote:
Flutes are type of musical instrument everywhe
Flutes are type of musical instrument everywhere else - so, spreading butter on flutes maybe something Ian Anderson has tried......
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 01:10
Tom Ozric wrote:
GuldbamsenFlutes in Denmark are a type of bread. .
Flutes are type of musical instrument everywhere else - so, spreading butter on flutes maybe something Ian Anderson has tried......[/QUOTE wrote:
.........oh, the effects of alcohol on a Sunday afternoon......let's just get back to Dark, Turbulent, and mainly instrumental........Henry Cow's 'Western Culture' ???
.........oh, the effects of alcohol on a Sunday afternoon......let's just get back to Dark, Turbulent, and mainly instrumental........Henry Cow's 'Western Culture' ???
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 05:58
Oh boy..... did I do the thing again, where I go off at a tangent talking about flutes?
Seems as if Christmas functions as a holiday disguised in beer and snaps - plus unbearable music with Wham and Mariah Curry.............. yuk! Though here in Denmark we are slightly behind the times, so what you think of as Sunday afternoon - we call Saturday night here at the bellybutton of the world also known as Dinamarca.
Today I feel like some sort of forgotten gummy bear left on the barbecue.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 06:04
ULVER - Themes From William Blake's The Marriage Of Heaven & Hell
So dark it hard to take in.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 06:11
Erm yes..... getting back to the premise of this thread.
I second the Ulver rec, and if you like a bit of black metal with the odd folky sprinkling, then try their album Bergtatt.
Also: Dog Blood Rising
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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 14:14
Mascodagama wrote:
Pleased to meet you also! I have checked out your channel. I like what you did on these tracks, very interesting use of the Roland, are you still experimenting?
Yes I'm still spending much time considering audio treatment the same way I was doing with MIDI + Roland. Everything is sort of expanded, and it's like visiting places I haven't seen yet, some revisiting from other angles, etc.
They are many other similar tracks to be shown on Progarchives, but I'm slow.
Posted By: Lima96
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 17:22
Anekdoten's Nicklas Barker's solo album El Último Fin de Semana is pretty dark and haunting to say the least. You can download it for free at his Bandcamp page: http://nicklasbarker.bandcamp.com/album/el-ultimo-fin-de-semana" rel="nofollow - http://nicklasbarker.bandcamp.com/album/el-ultimo-fin-de-semana
Also, Akinetón Retard's jazzy crimsonoïd absolute madness. Akranania, their second studio album, is a favourite of mine. Their double live album is amazing too.:
BTW, have you tried with 'instrumental zeuhl' bands like Weidorje?
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 21:11
Have you tried any free jazz or avant-jazz? If you've already tried the usual culprits (Coltrane, Ornette, etc.), I might recommend Tim Berne? He mixes Univers Zero-esque avant-jazz with free jazz. Great stuff. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/4AtCP7mCUpk?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 21:16
Eh, not doing well with this embedding stuff. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AtCP7mCUpk
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 10:38
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 16:55
Crikey, I've only just noticed that this thread has come back to life with a vengeance! I will be posting my replies but it may take a little while to catch up.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 17:02
Tom Ozric wrote:
There's a Yugoslavian (Slovenian from memory, maybe Croatian) band I had an album of once. I don't think they're here at P.A. - it was too messed up and hideous for my taste so I got rid of it. The band name - LAIBACH. The album I had (don't recall its title) had some dark picture on the cover with a deer skull on it. Might be something you'd like.......
I remember Laibach from John Peel's radio shows in the 1980s when it was my usual listening after lights out...though have never owned any of their records. Possibly one to look into further, though I remember little about them - thanks.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 17:07
Guldbamsen wrote:
In keeping with this thread though, and before we get ahead of ourselves - what about some Finnish Krautrock a la CAN?
I give you Circle:
I have their album Andexelt, which I like a lot. I've been meaning to get more - but been put off by the sheer number of records they have out there, as it's difficult to know where to go next. Any album recommendations?
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 17:15
Tom Ozric wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Poor Mascodagama, we're hogging his thread ........
Well just a little bit.... Though in all fairness, that last Circle recommendation were also directed at him. Dark, turbulent and mainly instrumental. Should tick at least two of those boxes methinks.
Hey ho before I forget - I read a review of yours concerning a French band called Nyl. Is that something that fits within this thread? They were after all French....
NYL - no, not dark at all, just primo psych. Great little album. How about Amon Duul II's 'Yeti' ?? That's one fantastic listen.
Added to my list, thank you. I need to listen to more Krautrock generally and Amon Duul in particular.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 26 2012 at 17:18
Tom Ozric wrote:
Hey, why not try Peter Hammill's 'In Camera' ?? P.H. does Goth.
An album that I bought on vinyl in, I reckon, 1984 or 1985. Great record! And almost certainly the lowest word count of any PH project...
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 05:02
Guldbamsen wrote:
I don't actually have that Hammill album yet, but your description of it makes me want it!
Though, and here I am speculating, I don't imagine it being mostly instrumental....
Getting back to the French. I can't believe a band like Nebelnest hasn't been mentioned yet!
NOT the best of sound qualities, but I guess the gist is there:
Or else try their Myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/nebelnest" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/nebelnest
You might be surprised by that PH album - his usual wordiness is not so much in evidence.
I have listened to some samples and tracks from Nebelnest before and somehow they've never quite done it for me, I'm not sure why. In theory I ought to like them! But I agree they very much fit the thread title. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 05:32
Mascodagama wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
There's a Yugoslavian (Slovenian from memory, maybe Croatian) band I had an album of once. I don't think they're here at P.A. - it was too messed up and hideous for my taste so I got rid of it. The band name - LAIBACH. The album I had (don't recall its title) had some dark picture on the cover with a deer skull on it. Might be something you'd like.......
I remember Laibach from John Peel's radio shows in the 1980s when it was my usual listening after lights out...though have never owned any of their records. Possibly one to look into further, though I remember little about them - thanks.
NOVA AKROPOLA was the album I once had. I may like it more these days but back 10 years ago it really grated on me.......
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 13:58
Guldbamsen wrote:
Yeti is unknown to me. But judging by the name alone, I should love it like I love flutes with butter.
Allright Tom - I have to log off now and make sensible things such as water my mother's orchids and prep a nice little pasta sauce.
Cheers man - nice to meet you!
I'm a bit of a Yeti fan as I mentioned in the OP. Really intense stuff that is a bit RIO, a bit Zeuhl, a bit heavy prog - not sure if I would ultimately have classifed them as RIO, but that's where they are on the site.
If you try them and like them you should also check out Tarantula Hawk, another US band who were active at around the same time and worked in a similar vein. They had two albums - to make matters as confusing as possible both records were self-titled and none of the tracks had names. But both are good.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 14:08
timothy leary wrote:
I like it!!!
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 14:21
^sludge
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 14:35
Mascodagama wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
Yeti is unknown to me. But judging by the name alone, I should love it like I love flutes with butter.
Allright Tom - I have to log off now and make sensible things such as water my mother's orchids and prep a nice little pasta sauce.
Cheers man - nice to meet you!
I'm a bit of a Yeti fan as I mentioned in the OP. Really intense stuff that is a bit RIO, a bit Zeuhl, a bit heavy prog - not sure if I would ultimately have classifed them as RIO, but that's where they are on the site.
If you try them and like them you should also check out Tarantula Hawk, another US band who were active at around the same time and worked in a similar vein. They had two albums - to make matters as confusing as possible both records were self-titled and none of the tracks had names. But both are good.
After many years, I've revisited my Yeti album as a result of this thread, and it sounds even better than I remembered. Wowzers. This just might be a 5 star album, a rating I try to save for only the most special albums to my heart. Maybe..... Anyhoo, I'm inclined to check out this Tarantula Hawk of which you speak.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 15:48
Slartibartfast wrote:
OK three pages before I put my two cents in and I want a penny for my thoughts.
Try John Zorn's Ipsissiumus and get back to me.
I am going to do that. Way past time I caught up with some of his projects. Thanks for the pointer.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 15:53
progbethyname wrote:
GOBLIN. thee quintessential band of dark and turbulent.
Good album is ZOMBIE. eerie, dark ominous music at its finest from the Italian greats. ;)
Another for my growing list. I only know them from s/t for Suspiria (which I've heard but don't own) - quite something! Thanks for the suggestion.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 16:01
Wow...that is intense. And fully improv! Thanks for the links.
Glad yr enjoyed it heheh........thing i love abt Supersilent is whatever they do its still got a ROCK and PROG edge to it, its not free jazz or scrapy improv (nuthin wrong with those but you know what i mean).......
Yeah, I do love some free jazz / improv / skronk when in the right frame of mind, but I certainly can't listen to it all the time.
I see that 7 is DVD only which is a shame - I rarely watch music DVDs even if I buy them, so I don't like buying them. I don't know if you could suggest a point of entry for Supersilent from what's available on CD...?
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 16:07
Tom Ozric wrote:
Porcupine Tree's Steven Wilson's side-project 'Bass Communion' - some very dark and eerie soundscapes there - especially 'Ghosts on Magnetic Tape'.
I've never been much interested in Porcupine Tree, but already had a 'note to self' to look into Mothlite. Also I recently got hold of his remixes of Larks' Tongues In Aspic which are just superb, so he's gone way up in my estimation as a producer. Bass Communion is now added to my list for investigation, thank you.
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 16:14
Tom Ozric wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
GuldbamsenFlutes in Denmark are a type of bread. .
Flutes are type of musical instrument everywhere else - so, spreading butter on flutes maybe something Ian Anderson has tried......
.........oh, the effects of alcohol on a Sunday afternoon......let's just get back to Dark, Turbulent, and mainly instrumental........Henry Cow's 'Western Culture' ???[/QUOTE wrote:
Already onto that one (thanks though) - with that and Leg End being my favourites from HC. Anything, really, without Dagmar...
Already onto that one (thanks though) - with that and Leg End being my favourites from HC. Anything, really, without Dagmar...
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 16:22
tamijo wrote:
ULVER - Themes From William Blake's The Marriage Of Heaven & Hell
So dark it hard to take in.
Well I like Blake (coincidental that the John Zorn album cover posted earlier also had a reference!) though I have limited experience with Black Metal. But this has got to be worth checking out, thank you.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 18:43
Not into omega massif evidently?
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 20:44
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 27 2012 at 22:38
It's been a blast reading Tom Ozric and Guldbamsen's posts.
Has anyone mentioned IN THE WOODS... yet ? "Omnio" is a freaking monster that i hesitate to introduce to anyone in case they get frightened but it's dark and atmospheric and i love it.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 28 2012 at 07:29
Mascodagama wrote:
progbethyname wrote:
GOBLIN. thee quintessential band of dark and turbulent.
Good album is ZOMBIE. eerie, dark ominous music at its finest from the Italian greats. ;)
Another for my growing list. I only know them from s/t for Suspiria (which I've heard but don't own) - quite something! Thanks for the suggestion.
George A. Romero's DAWN OF THE DEAD movie soundtrack. Absolutely killer!!
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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: December 13 2012 at 07:27
Far Corner
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 15 2012 at 18:24
Wow...that is intense. And fully improv! Thanks for the links.
Glad yr enjoyed it heheh........thing i love abt Supersilent is whatever they do its still got a ROCK and PROG edge to it, its not free jazz or scrapy improv (nuthin wrong with those but you know what i mean).......
Yeah, I do love some free jazz / improv / skronk when in the right frame of mind, but I certainly can't listen to it all the time.
I see that 7 is DVD only which is a shame - I rarely watch music DVDs even if I buy them, so I don't like buying them. I don't know if you could suggest a point of entry for Supersilent from what's available on CD...?
Agree on 7.
I prefer their eariler stuff. The boxset of 1-3 is very good but much more avant-jazz and less withj electronics and more ugency than their later years. Thouggh all that material can be a little daughtting for jumping straight into. 4 is also top notch IMO, taking the two worlds and putting them together. Of the later stuff I like 8 the best.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: December 15 2012 at 19:34
See I tend to go for 6. I think it's the most 'together' of the lot, and I sense some kind of red thread running through it. Pretty electronic too but in a soothing manner.
Also, in reference to the op, Italian band Jacula. They practically invented the doom genre with their two first albums. Sporting one particular 68 year old Charles Tiring on the pipe organ.
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Date Posted: February 16 2013 at 15:30
Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: July 12 2013 at 19:21
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 12 2013 at 20:32
SEVENTH CIRCLE.
The Vanishing album. It's a perfect example for this forum.
Seventh Circle are on Soundcloud and BandCamp. Enjoy guys. :)