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Best Hogarth-era Marillion album?

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Topic: Best Hogarth-era Marillion album?
Posted By: zeqexes
Subject: Best Hogarth-era Marillion album?
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 04:35
I'd like to get some Hogarth-era Marillion albums, so I want to know which are good.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 09:29
Brave, just ahead of Marbles.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 10:59
The first two for me.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 11:03
I only have Seasons End, and much to my surprise I really dig it. No vote though

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 11:11
For me its between Brave and Seasons End.  But since Seasons End is really a Fish-era album that just happens to have h on vocals, lets go for Brave!  In other words, just because one may like SE doesn't necessarily mean one would like other h-era albums, since Brave onward sounds little like what came before; for better or worse.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 11:12
For me it's between Seasons End and Afraid Of Sunlight and i went with the latter.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 11:13
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

For me its between Brave and Seasons End.  But since Seasons End is really a Fish-era album that just happens to have h on vocals, lets go for Brave!  In other words, just because one may like SE doesn't necessarily mean one would like other h-era albums, since Brave onward sounds little like what came before; for better or worse.
Just my opinion.


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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:13
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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:18
Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

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Kidding, right?

Actually, I just listened to this a couple of days ago.  It does have quite a few good songs.  But several terrible ones that just kill it.


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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:21
This Strange Engine, barely beating out their other three master works, Season's End, Afraid of Sunlight and Marbles.  All four of those are excellent albums, but TSE has been my favorite since its release and I doubt that will change.  However, I have not heard their latest yet.

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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:31
1 Marbles
2 Afraid of sunlight
3 Brave
4 Seasons End
5 This strange engine


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:57
Hmm...Marbles over Season's End and Afraid Of Sunlight

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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:59
Marbles.  Get the 2-disc version though.  Brave through This Strange Engine is pretty good stuff too.  Still prefer the Fish era, but h has grown on me through the years.


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 13:20
AOS followed by Marbles for me.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 13:23
As far as I know them: Brave followed by Holidays in Eden (I am one of the few who favours Holidays in Eden over Marbles, which is imho quite overrated).

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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 14:00

1-  Brave
2 - Marbles
3 - Afraid of sunlight
4 - Seasons End




Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 16:46
Marbles for me. tough the new one , Sounds That Can't Be Made is fine as well - give it a couple of years and it may well be up among their top albums.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 23:08
Hard to top Season's End for me, though I haven't heard all the h era albums yet.  SE has a residual Fish-era feel to much of it, which I go for.  In fact, years ago I heard Fish singing on 1 or 2 of these songs as demos before h joined.


Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 23:48
Brave & this Strange Engine , Marbles comes third !

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 00:06
Nice poll. Not a true fan of H-era but I've just seen them live and was stunning! Bought their newest, is good but not memorable.

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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 02:58
Bit of a risk voting for their most recent album (and having egg on you face when you realize it's not as good as you though it was), but I've played it enough times now to confidently say it's the best thing they have ever done. Broader musically than anything before it, more commercial than HiE but doesn't fall for the same traps as HiE. OK, it's not quite progressive enough for the tastes of people who contribute to this site, but hey, Marillion stopped being a progressive rock band long ago when Fish fell out with the band. Is that such a crime? Lot of stuff Steve Wilson does these days isn't that progressive either.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 03:43
Brave, followed by the 2-CD version of Marbles, though I have a soft-spot for Seasons End and Holidays In Eden.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 04:06
Marbles

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 04:10
Seasons End for me one of the best Neo Prog albums and a massive influence on the direction of the sub genre (in a positive way imo)


Posted By: ProgDrummerTony
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 05:51

Marbles without hesitation, though I also like Seasons End and Brave.



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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 04:15
Ok everyone, thanks for voting and commenting. The 2CD of Marbles will be what I buy first Smile

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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 18:38
Ok so I chose SEASONS END, but I know that BRAVE and MARBLES have a far greater musical depth to them, but let's face it...seasons end is simpler but better sounding album. Love it.

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 18:56
Any of the following are great choices:  This Strange Engine, Afraid of Sunlight, Marbles, or Season's End.  I haven't heard their latest yet, but will soon.  The others are all decent, except maybe Radiation (not too big on .com either).

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Posted By: mawgojzeta
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 10:41
Brave, followed closely by This Strange Engine.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 10:53
Brave is a mixed bag for me, there are fillers so i won't really recommend it.
 
Albums you can't go wrong with :
- Seasons' End (most of the tracks were written during Fish days - music remains but lyrics were changed -> listen to some of the demo songs of the bonus CD to Fugazi's remastered version - so it has a strong Fish-era feel to it)
- Holidays In Eden : H begins to bring his touch to the future Marillion sound, some ambient pop/prog not far from the likes of David Sylvian or Talk Talk
- This Strange Engine : it has the best H-era epic, and has some elegantly crafted songs full of emotions.
- Happiness Is The Road pt 1 : excellent album, not a single "disposable" track. I don't know the second part, but pt 1 is full of nice musical ideas and great vocals.
- Sounds that Can't Be Made : some useless and out of place hard-rock moments in the first track (otherwise good) but the remaining of the album is pure beauty.


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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 10:55
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

 
 
- Seasons' End (most of the tracks were written during Fish days - music remains but lyrics were changed -> listen to some of the demo songs of the bonus CD to Clutching at straws's remastered version - so it has a strong Fish-era feel to it)


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 10:58
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yes, thanks Wink

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Posted By: Genghis Ron
Date Posted: May 25 2013 at 20:33
Tough choice. 

1. Made Again. Only because it has "Brave Live" on it.
2. Marbles Live. (Racket Records)
3. Afraid of Sunlight Live. (Racket Records)

Marillion is sooooo much better live than recorded. 



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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 00:27
My top five:

1. Brave
2. Marbles
3. Afraid of Sunlight
4. Anoraknophobia
5. This Strange Engine


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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 09:08
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Brave, followed by the 2-CD version of Marbles, though I have a soft-spot for Seasons End and Holidays In Eden.
Exactly.


Posted By: LSDisease
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 11:29
Seasons End

next on the list

Holidays in Eden
Brave
Radiation
Somewhere Else
Anoraknophobia

the rest I don't like


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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 12 2014 at 22:48
Originally posted by LSDisease LSDisease wrote:

Holidays in Eden
Radiation 

Two of their worst albums IMHO.


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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: July 13 2014 at 00:34

Marbles.



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 14:06
Brave 


Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 29 2017 at 14:15
Seasons End is partly bearable.



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