Should marijuana be legalised?
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Topic: Should marijuana be legalised?
Posted By: smartpatrol
Subject: Should marijuana be legalised?
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 11:41
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I think it should. It's generally better for you than alcohol and cigarettes, and doesn't have many negative effects. But we should put high taxes on it like alcohol and cigarettes and give it an age restriction.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 12:08
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Hell yeah. I should personally probably stay away from it though.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 12:17
| Yeah, though I take issue with the first assertion. It's been shown that moderate intake of alcohol can provide actual health benefit, whereas the same can not be said for moderate marijuana use (I'm talking long term health effects, not the pain relieving effect that marijuana can have for cancer patients, for example). |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 12:38
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The government has no business telling people what they can and can't put in their bodies. This includes alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, trans fat and coca-cola.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 12:42
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I used to think yes no question. But now I don't know. Being less bad for you than Cigs and Alcohol isn't a reason to make it legal. I think M is probably not good for you if you smoke too much of it on a regular basis and I'm fairly sure its a lot stronger than it was 20 year ago or so. I also worry about the consequences of drug driving. I know for sure that this would increase. So certainly not without a pretty comprehensive education on effects on health etc ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 12:49
Drugs get stronger, more concentrated and more dangerous when you criminalize them, because smugglers need to get the maximum potency in the smallest weight and volume. Heroin and Cocaine used to be legal and were sold as an ingredient in cough medicine. Those drugs were not nearly as strong as they are now that they have become criminalized. -------------
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akamaisondufromage wrote:Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 12:53
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I have formally stopped caring but I support full legalization of everything. ------------- 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:04
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Legalize everything and let the dumber die young from overdoses. Survival of the fittest and all that jazz. |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:12
Ditto!  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:21
This may well be the case, but, I still worry about legalizing it on health grounds. And also on the grounds I hate the smell of it - you smell it everywhere, as it is, when illegal. And on the grounds I don't want a bunch of stoned idiots who think they drive better after a joint! Yeah right same as the idiots that think they drive better after a drink or two. I'm not convinced either way. I think a lot of people say legalize it, cos its cool to say that. But then part of me thinks if it was legal it would be less coool and then well who knows ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:24
More: laws against public drunkness and DUI should be repealed. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:35
Agreed, although it took Pat some time to convince me of the second point. -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:40
What was the reasoning? Punish bad driving and not mere BAC? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:40
And how did he convince you that Driving Under the Influence (I assume that is what it is) should be ok? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:42
Yep. * (I'm not the Pat that convinced him)
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:53
Basically, yes. He pointed out that driving in heavy rain is just as dangerous, but that's not illegal. Also, if two people are stopped for reckless driving, and one has been drinking he will get a much more severe punishment despite not having been any more reckless than the sober man, which seems unfair. -------------
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 13:55
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Is driving with a hangover considered DUI? Seems like it should be. It's even worse in some cases because part of you wants to crash.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 14:02
Driving in heavy rain is not as dangerous as DUI not in modern cars. The one that has been drinking started driving badly as soon as he got in the car. Whether one is punished more than the other isn't relevant. They both should be punished the degree is up to the courts. If the other is deliberately reckless then it should be the same. Maybe I would agree if they took out all the seatbelts in cars and then the drink / reckless driver would pay the full cost of his her actions ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 14:04
Well its still drink driving in this country if you are over the level the next day. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 14:05
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 14:20
If you don't like the rain example, then consider driving when very sleepy. It's the same point. What do you mean the punishment isn't relevant? Of course it is. Two people are exhibiting the same behavior but are punished differently in a systematic way because of the reason for their behavior. That's unjust by almost any definition of the term. That's also part of the reason why I'm against hate crime laws. -------------
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Posted By: The Jester
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 14:23
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I voted yes, for many reasons that I'm bored to write right now...
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 14:53
You can get done for driving whilst tired. There was a case here when a man drove for hours and then drove off the road over an embankment and on to the railway in front of a train. You were saying that DUI shouldn't be illegal and the basis of this is that people who drive stupidly don't get such bad punishments. So what? That doesn't change the fact that driving whilst drunk is very stupid. I would and did argue that they should be punished severely you would argue that they can both do what ever they want. So I agree with you when you say its unjust.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 15:03
You are misrepresenting what I said. I do think people should be punished for driving in a way that endangers others, but the sheer amount of alcohol in a person's bloodstream is not a good indication of that. DUI laws are not about driving while drunk, they are about driving after having drunk alcohol. These are not the same thing. People react differently to alcohol. Some may drive perfectly fine after three beers, others may be seriously impaired. It is wrong to punish the two equally. My point is that if two people were driving in exactly the same way and one was sleepy while the other was drunk, the sleepy person would get a lighter punishment. If both drivers were being reckless, the drunk one will have his license taken away and the sleepy one will get a slap on the wrist. If both drivers were driving safely, the drunk one will get his license taken away, and the sleepy one will not even get a slap on the wrist. You cannot be arrested for driving tired if your driving is perfectly fine. You can get arrested for driving under the influence if your driving is perfectly fine. It is the quality of the driving that endangers people, regardless of the cause. -------------
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 15:11
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I just have beef with the people who typically use it. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 15:41
But its not just the 'quality' of driving that endangers people. Driving needs good reaction times as well. And even if you think you are ok to drive (which is what it would come down to) your reaction times to the unexpected will be pretty crap. There is no excuse for drink driving there is no need for it and its dangerous. Again I don't disagree with your point about fairness. I guess if your driving is fine then you would be unlucky to be stopped if you had been drinking. But I wouldn't take away the drink driving laws just because it might be unfair.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 17:56
so do I, but I still think it should ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 17:59
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Smarty, you're American, so start spelling like one too. But I'm all for legalization of everything etc etc ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 18:04
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In principle, I should vote "No." I am, rather, in favor of the government not telling us what we can and cannot do when the action does not infringe upon the rights, life, or property of another. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 18:27
| I would vote for the legalization of the reefer only if I wanted my brain to be even closer to becoming a vegetable, so "No". |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 18:55
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Of course marijuana should be legalized, it's a given at this point considering the benefits of both Hemp as a material and medicinal marijuana for those who don't like or are made sick by standard medications. The verdict is in: legalize. Seems like a point any liberty-loving person should embrace. In fact, we should be encouraging growing your own. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 19:31
That's a good point, Rob, but I find it's generally too pedantic and subtle to be worth making. -------------
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 19 2012 at 20:16
I don't want to smoke weed either, but that doesn't mean other people don't. Why do you not want it to be legal? Not wanting to do it is hardly a reason. If someone wants to smoke weed, it's not hard to get so they will get it. The fact that it's illegal just costs money and puts innocent people behind bars. And before you say when we legalize it more people will use it, because studies have shown that when weed was legalized for medicinal use in California, use rates actually lowered among youth. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 02:06
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I should vote yes, but after reading all the "arguments" in favour in this thread I voted no. ------------- What? |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 02:19
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 02:21
Yes but we should make alcohol illegal in the process .
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 02:57
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^ Well that's the begged question isn't it: if No, then why should marijuana be illegal? I imagine there are certain stigmas; some untrue (like it stifles one's motivation or it's a 'hippie drug', when in fact many highly motivated, successful straight-laced buy and smoke pot); some absolutely true (like it causes short-term memory loss); and some only partly true and irrelevant (such as increased appetite). What is without doubt is pot's ability to sooth nausea and ease certain kinds of pain, not to mention other benefits for someone suffering from something like cancer, lateral sclerosis, or AIDS. I am not prepared to deny, either by action or inaction, these people's legal right to buy and smoke marijuana without fear of arrest. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 04:35
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Of course it should, and it's full medical potential should be explored in earnest. This may not go down well with the pharma industry though. You can't patent something that grows naturally, as a marketable drug. For this reason clinical trials are few and far between and seldom talked about.
In any case, marijuana doesn't have to be smoked. It can be drunk and ingested. It can be vapourised, and the THC delievered in steam. As far as I'm aware there have never been any actual proven cases of fatal cannabis overdoes, anywhere in the world. Certainly, where the post mortem concluded 'cannabis overdose' I think it is broadly acknoweldged that habitual smoking of the drug is probably not conducive to improved memory, or the safe operating of machinary or automobiles, and may have a tenuous link to mental health problems in teenagers whose brains are Still developing. But the argument that marijuana should be illegal because of the health implications doesn't stand up. Following that logic, most anti depressant drugs and over the counter painkillers should probably be banned. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 05:09
Nice post and I think you´re right about the fact that no one has ever overdosed on cannabis. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 05:23
The pharmaceutical industry does this all the time, not just for drugs derived from cannibas ( http://www.gwpharm.com/Sativex.aspx" rel="nofollow - www.gwpharm.com/Sativex.aspx - a cannabis derived cancer treatment that's been approved for 8 years now), but for thousands of drugs derived from naturally growing plants, after all, that is where the pharmaceutical industry came from - extracting "medicine" from plants, not artificially synthesising new wonder drugs from molecular building blocks.
...to paraphrase Dara O'Brain's diatribe on herbal medicine (which, from the position you are arguing, that's what cannabis is): "...then we tested it all, and the stuff that worked became 'medicine', and the rest of it is just a nice bowl of soup and some potpourri."
(Which isn't strictly true since most plants will kill you as soon as look at you, but why stand in the way of a good witty line).
That still isn't a case of making it legal in the sense that people are talking of here. Here in the UK there is a sucession of difference between prescription-only medicines, 'behind the counter' medicines, 'over the counter' medicines and grow-your own herbals ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feverfew" rel="nofollow - feverfew and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camomile" rel="nofollow - camomile for example). An example of that is Codeine - as an opiate it is a controlled substance, the legality of codeine is dependant on the strength of the preparation. ------------- What? |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 06:37
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:42
| Here in Washington State it is on the ballot. There are some caveats with the bill though which will influence how people vote. They center around driving a vehicle. Medical marijuana patients are coming out as opposed to the legalization because it would limit their ability to drive. Since Thc is oil based it stays in the system for a long time. In other words........ smoke a joint today and get pulled over two weeks from now and you would test positive. Until they iron out all the baggage with the bill it might not be the best thing for those who want to smoke it. I think it has a chance of passing but with some bad baggage with it. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 09:49
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I'll probably surprise a few...
I don't think it should legalized (too many dangers still, coz many can't handle it), but it should be de-criminalized (subtle difference)...
I don't favor selling it (mj) next to alcohol or cigarettes (these should be penalized
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 10:31
Government shouldn't be deciding what people can or can't put in their bodies, each person should decide by him/herself. All drugs should be legal. This is the argument for legalization that I support. But, again, there are far more relevant things in the world today than weed legalization (except for potheads of course  )-------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 11:06
http://www.cableready.net/5523/101-things-removed-from-the-human-body/" rel="nofollow - 101 THINGS REMOVED FROM THE HUMAN BODY ...plus a sword fish in the eye.best ever quote: "my advice to someone contemplating inserting a rectal foreign body... is to not do it." ------------- What? |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 11:26
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A healthy advice, just as one saying "don't do drugs". But an advice it should remain -------------
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 12:46
That's like saying "Let's legalize suicide". It's a person's decision to do the unthinkable, right?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:01
...and then pay them $3 an hour to work in an all-night convenience store. Cannabis may not have any lasting effects or be particularly addictive, toxic or dangerous, but stoned potheads are as thick as custard and just as interesting, really, they have the IQ of a house brick before it's been laid.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:04
Yes, exactly. (I can't tell whether you are being sarcastic or not.) -------------
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:14
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People who don't respond well to weed usually leave it alone or they wind up talking to the toilet. People who can muster it should be able to know when to take a break. I am not sure where the government has a say here... It's dangerous!!!! Nah, maybe if you eat 12 grams in one sitting and then by some strange miraculous feat manage to keep it all in for over an hour without spewing, then we might be talking danger.... Anywho - people should be allowed to do stupid things - as long as it doesn't affect their surroundings. That is what's called natural selection.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:50
That's like saying "Let's legalize suicide". It's a person's decision to do the unthinkable, right? [/QUOTEWhat is the sentece for suicide these days, how can it be against the law?
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:57
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Suicide - weed - government....? That's like throwing Barbara Streisand - hardcore punk and wellington boots together in the same discussion. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:59
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Yeah man ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:59
I think you've just come up with a great idea for a comeback album. -------------
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 13:59
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:00
I'd buy it in a second. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:01
Give me a pint of Hobgoblin anyday. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:04
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^that is indeed a fine beer.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:04
One, suicide isn't illegal. We just try very hard to prevent suicide. Two, what the hell does suicide have to do with weed? Two completely different and unrelated things. ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:12
Theres a new one now. saw it today, special reserve http://tomwebster25.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/king-goblin-6-6-special-reserve/" rel="nofollow - http://tomwebster25.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/king-goblin-6-6-special-reserve/  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:45
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Should we legalize marijuana comsumption by rectal way? |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:53
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Yes, for anyone over 18. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 14:55
| I would hardly describe someone consuming marijuana by the rectal way enough intelligent to be given the legal majority. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 15:12
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I honestly feel better when i'm straight over when i'm buzzed or have been drinking so not a lot of incentive to get high for me. Still i would call myself a casual user. It's great when i take the dog down for a walk on the beach or if i'm going to a show or concert. In the town where i live it's so readily available it's unbelievable. Maybe it's like this everywhere but legal or not there's a lot of stoned people out there. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
I would vote to legalise it though because i think someone being thrown in jail for having some weed on them is beyond ridiculous.Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 15:38
Barbra Streisand in a rectal way??
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 16:04
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Probably yes, although I feel the public largely overstates the "safety" of weed. Yes, we know nobody ODs and we know alcohol is worse blah blah. Yet regular weed use does have consequences for the lungs which people conveniently ignore and depending on what studies you believe there may be other consequences as well. Last, there is the motivational suck of casual partying which I've witnessed, having had many friends who use. Some people handle it well and have successful lives. Others get really caught up in partying to the extent where other aspects of their lives suffer a bit from inattention, and weed even more than drinking seems to exact a toll on motivation based on what I've witnessed....one of the guys in Genesis was asked about drugs years ago and said basically "just get on with your life." Excessive partying takes from your potential in subtle way if you are the kind of person who doesn't recognize it and remain conscious of it. Not everyone will suffer this fate, I understand, but some will be affected by using. And I think all of these negative possibilities are routinely ignored or glossed over by the "pot is safe as popsicles" crowd. That said, criminalizing personal home use is insane. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 20 2012 at 17:43
1) I was just making an analogy. 2) I apologize if we went off the topic with that. 3) The illegality of suicide is what I was told by my step-relatives (but, of course, I don't have to believe everything somebody says).
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 04:50
Thanks for the link about Sativex. I didn't think that had been approved over here. The lines of reasoning seem to be 1) People should able to do what they want with their own bodies. 2) There are medicinal benefits which should be fully exploited. 3) It's less dangerous physiologically than alcohol. It may seem over simplified, but IMO there are no reasons for cannabis to have an illegal status. I'm certain if government could come up with a failsafe way of legalising and taxing it, whilst not losing middle England voters, they would free the weed in an instant. For all their moral drum banging I doubt many of them really give a sh!t, to be honest. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 06:17
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Totaly hurts too much - trying to shuf the Waterpipe up there. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 12:54
| Yes, and like Ahnold says: "It's not a drug, it's a leaf." And it's not marijuana, that's the slang term, it should be called cannabis, the proper term. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 21 2012 at 18:01
Of course it sounds ridiculous, but the problem is the supply In my youth , I dealt for two years in Toronto, just to get my stuff free... Didn't sell grams, but quarter ounces, so there would be less traffic Because I knew how some so-called "cool tokers" acted when they were without anf looking, I made sure I only dealt to people I knew them and knew more or less what their consumption was... and sold to them accordingly... because the last thing I wanted is that they would resell the stuff to others... and eventually I'd get these unwanted customers ringing at my door... It kind of worked for two years... I only kicked a few out, because they always wanted more, and were giving my name away... Didn't need that crap... went out of business for most... because the problem is that when tokers are on the prowl, they can be arseholes in the way they search for it... Like some wouldn't believe I didn't have any (it happened at times, and I didn't want to increase my dealing or go for a new batch until my own stash was not done with)... so they were getting upset... Screw them... didn't need the aggravation Give you an example right now... My ex-neighbours in Holland (where the stuff is legal) were fairly cool, though somewhat noisy (most Dutch are)... They moved out to give their son the house... Turns out he's a successfull coffee shop owner (a legal dope dealer, if you wish).... The guy is cool (well his wife certainly is), but has a lot of friends and parties (no real nuisance... he controls his buddies well under his roof), but I suspect most of them are coffee shop kling-ons... But in the last two months, some of his "buddies" have been ringing insistantly at his door, despite seeing that he's not there... Some of these idiots are hanging around for 30 minutes in front of his house... Damn, if they need it that bad, grow your own stash... ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: September 25 2012 at 15:45
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: September 26 2012 at 19:49
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Yeah for sure.
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