WWI or WWII
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Topic: WWI or WWII
Posted By: smartpatrol
Subject: WWI or WWII
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 03:43
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Which of these two world wars is more interesting to you. I picked the third option. I would've been WWII if not for my intense fascination with Trench Warfare. ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 04:07
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I'm from the Netherlands, which were neutral during WW1. I learned almost nothing about this World War. But on WW2 we learned a lot. On school and at home. For my job I went to live in Belgium, and I lived close to Ypres and the area of WW1, where there are lots of graveyards of WW1. Since then I became also interested in this war. There are still a lot of landmines of WW1 being found in the ground of local farmers, which is amazing. There are museums where you can sit in a trench, and here the sounds and even smell what people were smelling during WW1. |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 06:15
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You're young and you're sitting in a trench. It's 1915. You're mildly upset, but not particularly afraid; you hope everything is going to end well, and you're thinking about your young pretty wife waiting for you in some corner of Europe. You have no clue about a warfare. You overheard rumours about some modern technology; but all you know are battles in classical sense, guns and muskets, cavalry, even swords. Then you hear sounds that humanity never heard before: a monstrous swarm of roars and explosions. Airplanes and zeppelins are attacking from the air. There's nowhere to hide. Cannons are shooting cannonballs the size of a house, literally destroying the entire landscapes. You can't hide, you can just run aimlessly and hope for the best. Then a new pack of strange creatures arrived from the fog, squealing. What is this? It looks like a ship with caterpillars. And it's faster than a walking soldier, it has a cannon and a machine gun. Finally, they drop a nerve gas on you. You are lying in dirt, dying. While you're still spazzing, monsters from the nightmares are arriving through the fog and the smoke. They have no faces. They wear gas masks, and they're here to finish you. They are carrying something else you never saw before. The flame throwers. ------------- |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 06:24
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Nice Moris.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 06:37
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clarke2001 wrote:Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 11:27
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I've read so much about the Third Reich and WWII but I started late with WWI. Both fascinating subjects, both inseparable. WWII only happened because there was a WWI. One can't be properly understood without the other. Both are totally fascinating subjects for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 11:43
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From an American perspective, World War II is taught much more vigorously in schools, and World War I seems mostly a European conflict, even more so than could be said of World War II. From a warfare perspective, WWII seems more interesting, if that's the right word. Sea battles, desert battles, resistance, in depth strategies. What irritates me about WWI is the ridiculous amount of mindless killing over a few hundred yards in the trenches. And rushing machine guns? I just don't get it. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 14:02
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WWI is interesting for it was the true first industrial war. But, as a former student in history, I've worked more on WWII than WWI. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 14:09
Yes, a very good post. It must have been something like that. Lots of them having no clue of whatever was going to happen, what they were about to experience. Not even particularly afraid, no, probably not. Maybe seeing even some kind of adventure in it? At the start of it at least. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 17:17
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WWII, first you had a man who but for a few bad decisions
came close to dominating most of Europe and possibly Russia too. This same man modernized warfare to where we
still use some of the same tactics today, ballistic missiles just to name one.
Mind control to the point where millions of people were exterminated and none
but an insignificant few within his own ranks attempted to stop him. And much, much, more. It's WWII for me. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 17:36
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WWII but WWI is certainly interesting as well. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 23:00
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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: August 11 2012 at 23:03
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WWII, if only because I know more about it.
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 12 2012 at 00:04
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: August 12 2012 at 20:34
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WW 1, because of the sheer brutality of battle and restlessness of the war machine. WW 2 was more political than anything, wile the first was driven by pure sense of mutual annihilation. -------------   
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 12 2012 at 22:59
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^Oh yes there wasn't a sense of mutual anihilation in WWII, especially in the east. -------------
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 12 2012 at 23:28
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/\ Yes, but there was much more politics in WWII that WWI
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 12 2012 at 23:42
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What the hell does that even mean? WWI was, if anything, only fought because of stupid politics and foreign policy alliances and pacts of bygone eras. Yes, there were no communists or fascists yet but there were people fighting for power and that is politics. What you might be trying to say is that WWII was much more ideological or something like that. -------------
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 12 2012 at 23:53
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/\ Thank you, that is exactly what I mean
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 00:01
| From what schools tell us, both wars could have been avoided entirely. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 00:30
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Simple explanation.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 00:40
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 00:51
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Being an amateur military historian , I am fascinated and disturbed by both events and YES, WW2 was a direct consequence of Versailles and the blindness of Clemenceau, no historian will doubt that. On the other hand, WW1 was the direct result of the French Revolution and the colliding concepts of monarchy and republicanism. Lest we forget that neither were particularly democratic as Britain was an Empire that tolerated little dissent. The saddest reality is that nearly 80 million Europeans died in WW2 for a just cause, the rooting out of the most evil of regimes. In the 90s, the tremors were still being felt (Srebenica, Kosovo and the collapse of the USSR) . Today, economic uncertainty looms once again, the root cause of the unrest in 1914. Let us pray........ ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 01:10
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 07:11
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For me, WWII since my dad somehow survived being in Patton's 3rd army. ------------- 
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 07:34
Let's hope the same mistakes are not repeated again! I think experienced and common sense leaders are needed, but unfortunately history shows that these so called wise leaders are not to be seen at crucial moments.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 07:49
After 4 years from 2008, most of us are still waiting for the "recovery"
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 09:08
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Personally I prefer WWI because I find it to be rather unexamined and criticized despite being what I think to be the more significant of the two in terms of its influence later in the century.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 13 2012 at 09:33
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^I tend to agree. I think the primary reason it goes unexamined is it was a very "unsexy" war. WWII had everything going for it as far as a "freshness" factor. Full use of moving pictures, better long distance communication, full mechanization, high profile despots and more. WWI, while certainly more interesting in its roots, was basically a dawn to dusk muddy slug-fest across far fewer fronts. And really, Versailles being the bung trap of a treaty that it was, WWI can be argued as never really ending. Seriously, the ramifications of the event are still being played out today. One could argue that the only real reason there was a break at all between the two was the flu.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: August 26 2012 at 21:35
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WW1 is quite interesting: it started as a typical conflict of kings and royal houses, just like had happened for more than 800 years in Europe (and parts of Asia too) and finished as a total war, that saw the end of some big empires: Otoman, Austria-Hungary, Czarist Russia. After WW1, the USA became a major power, and we saw the rise of the Soviet Union. Also the events in Germany, Italy, Portugal, Turkey, Spain, etc, were indelible and marked the decades to come. Much of the world we live today was shaped in the WW1. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 11:43
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I am fascinated by WW1. 19th century strategies were often disastrously employed in a 20th century war. eg cavalry charges up hill towards machine gun emplacements had no hope of success, but this tactic was often employed. Ordinary soldiers were regarded as nothing more than cannon fodder as they stepped 'over the top' trudging towards unassailable machine gun emplacements. Massive casualties were deemed acceptable for the smallest military gains. Never before or since has the life of an ordinary soldier been so utterly disregarded. Never before or since has military incompetence been played out on so vast a scale. ------------- Haiku Writing a poem With seventeen syllables Is very diffic.... |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 12:05
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I've had an interest in both since middle school. I've always found reality more interesting than fiction. I am particularly fascinated by the aircraft of WW2. Used to build models when I was a kid. Of course we wouldn't have had 2 without 1. I found one photo that survived the flood:  I had a Stuka model that was big scale, something like a 2 foot wingspan. Our white cat Snowball knocked off the dresser and broke it.  Also had a really cool B-17. Any surviving models were destroyed in a house fire in 1984 when I was at college.The Peachtree Dekalb Airport in Chamblee sometimes gets a visit from one of the surviving B-17s and they have rides but the ticket price is a bit too high for me. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 29 2012 at 15:30
Both. Cool airplanes in both wars. The airplane would not have developed as it has were it not for these wars.  ------------- |