Electronic Progressive (Rock) Appreciation Space
Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation
Forum Description: Discuss specific prog bands and their members or a specific sub-genre
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=87980
Printed Date: February 22 2025 at 01:57
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Electronic Progressive (Rock) Appreciation Space
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Subject: Electronic Progressive (Rock) Appreciation Space
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:23
|
Well howdy y'all. This will hopefully be the thread designated for discussion of the Progressive Electronic subgenre. This thread will hopefully make giving and receiving recommendations of artists and albums both old and new to fellow members of ProgArchives simple and fun. I have nothing more to add, so let's get this discussion started!  (Inspired by lazland's Tangerine Dream thread)
------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Replies:
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:27
|
I'm hoping that this thread will turn out to be a true appreciation of this sub-genre and provide all of us with some great new recommendations and music. Having "taken the plunge" with Tangerine Dream, I am eager to find new stuff in this field. The old adage is, to me, proven once again. You are never too old or "wise" to get to know great new music. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:46
|
Since you've been enjoying Tangerine Dream, I believe the next logical step would be Timewind by Klaus Schulze and Edgar Froese's first two solo albums. I'm glad you've been enjoying Tangerine Dream though. I feel like they could use a bit more love around here. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:51
|
Ninjad! I was just goin to post my liking for old Klaus. I think you would like him if you like TD X marks the spot for me! ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:53
|
Strangely enough, a colleague at work recommenmded the Froese albums today when we were discussing TD. I will check them out, I think. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:57
|
I'm favorite thing I've found under the EP banner (on a whole) is Heldon (and to some degree Pinhas' solo career). But I'm most undereducated in this type of music. I'll be checking here somewhat often methinks. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:01
Brilliant idea Alan About time too... Well, it's getting kind of late over here, but let me start out by saying that I enjoy nearly all facets of this 'genre'. Whether we're dealing with Berlin School or the cryptic almost zeuhlish French take on progressive electronic, I'm there! I will be up in this place like salt on a tomato, but first things first: Every average Joe's gotta start somewhere, and maybe the very best way to launch yourself into these electrified lands is just like Steve did here with the most seductive Tangerine Dream. Or maybe Harald Grosskopf's classic Synthesist from 1980 will better start your journey. It sure is a magnificent album, and an 'easy' sonic snack. I mean just have a listen: Harald obviously started out, just like Klaus Schulze did, behind the drum-kit -playing for Agitation Free and then moving on to all kinds of German Krautrock legends - also lending a helping hand on Schulze's own albums actually. Something must've kept, because when he finally decided to go solo, he did create something much in the same vein, although slightly more creamy and accessible. Sleep tight out there! I'll be back  EDIT: Hahah, already seen Man With Hat posting here, and bugger me if that Grosskopf 'direction' isn't the direct opposite of what this man needs. For all you strange avant beings out there - jump straight on to this: Just like Hugues mentioned in his brilliant review today (or yesterday?), the best way of getting the good Igor's albums, is the box set called Donc
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:03
|
Kraftwerk's Trans-Europe Express and The Man-Machine is the only Progressive Electronic albums I've got. I like both though. Deserves a mention, I think. -------------  
|
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:15
|
The best I've heard from Pinhas are the two collaborative albums with Merzbow, but I think those might be a bit difficult for some people to get into as an introduction. But, man, they're so awesome -- perfect contrasts of beauty and harshness. I'm excited for this thread to eventually dive into the deep end of avant-industrial kinds of electronic music like Maurizio Bianchi and such. I'm sure Sheavy can offer up some of his usual noisy industrial suggestions. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:18
Those are both awesome albums. If you're up to it, you should give Radio-activitat, Autobahn, and Ralf und Florian a shot. Though, for a very long time, Kraftwerk 2 was my favorite. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
The Bearded Bard wrote:Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:20
I'm glad that we now have a place to gush over our mutual love of interesting electronic music compositions  ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:41
|
Great idea for a thread! Klaus Schulze has been mentioned and he is of course one of the most important artists in this sub. Here he is live in action: Heldon is one of my favs and again has already been mentioned. They started out mainly keyboard oriented with Richard Pinhas' Fripp-like guitar here and there. Later they added bass and drums and Pinhas' guitar playing became more harder-edged and they used musicians from the Zeuhl scene. A great example of this later period: ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 17:43
|
Yay. Some bands that I have been playing recently. The infamous Throbbing Gristle. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6504" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6504 Lustmord. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2963" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2963 Takehisa Kosugi. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3493" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3493 Bruce Haack. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6507" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6507 ------------- 
|
Posted By: Zargasheth
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 00:40
You shouldn't pass up on Computer World either. It was released pretty late in their career, but it's nevertheless got some excellent music on it, although it is a bit less experimental than their earlier albums. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 02:42
|
I've heard Computer World, once on Spotify. I really liked the track Computer Love. CW will probably be the next Kraftwerk album I'll get, unless I find one of those Alan mentioned cheaper somewhere. -------------
|
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 02:44
|
I must admit I don't like my electronic music to be to ''heavy''. Played a bit of Heldon and had to stop it (sorry).
Recently I've just dowloaded several Neuronium albums and Synapsia is the album I most like of the bunch. I can't find any links for it though sadly but would recomment this to anyone who likes Tangerine Dream's Logos album. Its very slow paced and lush synth music. There is a meditative quality about it.
I also aquired Heritage which is regarded as something of a classic. Very smooth synth music and nice rythmns
also this from one of their recent albums Mystykatea
moving away from Neuronium I always remember this with fondness. Was big hit in the UK at the same time JM Jarre released his magnificient opus Oxygene
|
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 03:02
|
^ Ha! I too started to listen to that Heldon track and turned it off after a minute or so. Seemed a bit out opf place here, not that I would like to put limits on this thread as Electro is a wide ranging field.
Take Cluster and Harmonia for example I like the experimental poppier feel of this:
------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 03:03
|
Im not familiar with the "stars" of the genre Schulze or Tangerina Dream, but I do know their best works.
On the other hand im totaly in love with Eno !
Anyway, my first recomandation is this, an often overseen gem in this genre:
------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Ancient Tree
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 04:31
|
wait wait electonic prog is this im confused -------------  |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 05:18
|
Can we call this electronic prog ? Matmos : Snails and Lasers for Patricia Highsmith (2006) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRlDziP_F4&feature=relmfu" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GRlDziP_F4&feature=relmfu
|
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 05:47
|
For a variety of different reasons, Progressive Electronic probably represents the future of PA (if such an entity has a future in it's present incarnation)
------------- 
|
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:16
What we are talking about here is Progressive Electronic Rock, not Progressive House, or Progressive Electronic Trance. Electronic Dance Music (EDM) and it's close relative (subgenre) Intelligent Dance Music (IDM) are not connected to Progressive Rock at all (although there is inevitably some influence of Electronic Prog in some EDM and IDM, and latterly the other way around - some of the guys that make EDM and IDM music are influenced by Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, and even old-school Prog like Pink Floyd and Vangelis' 70s Prog band Aphrodite's Child).
To understand the distinction better you need to read http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=33" rel="nofollow - Philippe's excellent definition/history of what we call Progressive Electronic (Rock), from that you may then appreciate why he/we are dismissive of many of the IDM-type suggestions that we get.
At the other end of the spectrum (i.e electronic music that is not associated with Dance or Prog Rock) is electro-accoustic music - this often lacks the "rock" element and is more akin to classical music and avant garde (as opposed to Avant Prog) - that uses sound manipulation rather than sound synthesis to create music - some of that does "crossover" into Progressive Electronic (Rock), but not much.
It is perhaps easier to define Electronic Progressive (Rock) by what it isn't rather than by what it is because there is an awful lot of music that is created using synthesisers and music synthesis that is not Progressive Electronic (Rock) - Wendy Carlos, Tomita and Kitarō are obvious examples, (which tend to push Vangelis and JM Jarre towards Prog Related rather than Prog Electronic (Rock) by association... discuss) - Aphex Twin and Autechre and various Warp artists also fall outside this category, along with a whole raft of "New Age" music that creates symphoinic and/or ambient music by electronic means and a hellofalot of synth-pop and post-punk electronic noise.
But that's not to say that people who like Tangerine Dream and Moebius don't (or won't) like Vangelis, Aphex twin or Caberet Voltaire. ------------- What? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:39
|
IDM, what about 'brain dead' dance music that you can sing along to in the bath innit? All joking aside, the side stepping and posturing re Electronic Prog c/f Electronic Prog that posits the possibility of a sentient audience is frankly pitiful to behold. Yes, the definition provided by Philipe is impressive and posits that the extant technologies available beget the innovation. One of the biggest obstacles to innovation is innovation itself. I also like to pretend that the hippy Kosmiche w**k is now firmly relegated to the margins of the popular consciousness. (sales figures might bear this out I dunno)
-------------
|
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:10
------------- What? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:18
|
Linearity? I'm lost, ain't this available to to the Osmonds re Crazy Horses and the Buchla synth?
-------------
|
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:35
------------- What? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:45
|
OK, but as excellent as Phillipe's definition is, like any other fallible critter, he ain't future proof and Timewind is a just a German hippy name-dropping Wagner/Raga as an aide to credibility.
-------------
|
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:27
|
Terrible how many treds turn in debates about def. The title says electronic progressive (rock) appreciation To me seems pretty clear that it's about appreciation of artists already in this sub-genre, and nothing else. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 09:42
Gee thanks.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 11:19
It's just awful, Dean.  But I don't mind people debating the subgenre's definition on this site, and I actually encourage it. I think progressive electronic (on this site) is something that a lot of our members don't understand, and a lot of members think other members don't understand (ahem  ). I think this would be a good place to discuss the merits of calling various modern artists "progressive electronic" like Aphex Twin and F**k Buttons, though it's very clear that they don't deserve a spot on this site.I see no real progressive merits in Deadmau5 thought. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 11:55
|
I had no intention of debating the genre def, and still don't - it's fine as it is. Just pointing out the difference between what the dance/trance crowd call Progressive Electronic and what we call Progressive Electronic - two completely seperate and unrelated genres - to a 14 yo who was confused by a YouTube video. That's all. ------------- What? |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:04
|
Oh, right. I had just woken and my ability to understand things was fuzzy. Well, debates are still cool. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:21
|
Anyway - an ex-Tangerine Dream member album I really like is Michael Hoenig's Departure from the Northern Wasteland
He released one solo album after that called Xcept One before going on to create soundtracks for film and TV. He also created some additional music for Godfrey Reggio/Philip Glass film Koyaanisqatsi. ------------- What? |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:26
|
I haven't heard his other solo album. Is it worth checking out? I think Departure is awesome. Does anyone else besides Sheavy enjoy the gnarly industrial side of what we have on this site? ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:41
|
Can we call electronic prog that thing with no electronic but that sounds electronic ? Albert Marcoeur - Simone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEcHXCa6mnY&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEcHXCa6mnY&feature=related |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:45
|
^ I think we'll call it what it is - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3028" rel="nofollow - Avant Prog ------------- What? |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:54
| OK Dean. First time I hear the words Avant Prog, but I believe you. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 12:58
|
I do enjoy me some noise n' grinding stuff Alan - as long as it's got some purpose to it. That clip you posted is pretty cool. Dean: Hoenig's Wasteland never really struck a chord with me, but then again it has been collecting dust for about two years now, so I may have to re-listen. Funny, seeing IDM mentioned before - as I am currently on a huge The Future Sound of London kick. I love those guys. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 13:43
I like this, nice and bright & breezy. Call me mad, but I hear traces here of whrre Tony Banks could have gone from albums such as /the /fugitive if he had chosen to do so. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 13:55
^I am obviously speculating here, but you're referring to the first track right? The parallel is actually not that far off, though I hadn't made it myself before. Breezy is perhaps the best way of describing that album. You're dead on. The whole album is like that, and it genuinely feels like having a shoreline transported straight into your living-room. If you want something akin a tad more to symphonic Steve, then you should try Zombi on for size. Their Spirit Animal is a real humdinger  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 14:07
|
This thread needs some Conrad Schnitzler. Also Asmus Tietchens. -------------
|
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 14:08
I interrupted some of the other stuff on the thread I was listening to to hear this. You know my tastes well, David  This is quite a gorgeous piece of music, wonderfully symphonic. It is on the Wish list".------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 14:15
|
^Cheers Steve! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 14:46
|
Logic Gate is highly recommended if you are into Berlin school electronic prog : One big name of current Berlin school is Bernd Kistenmacher (the track below is a bit "old", but he is still active) :
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 15:49
|
Zombi is, indeed, the shiznit. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 15:59
|
No one has mentioned Ashra yet, the electronic group Manuel Gottsching formed after Ash Ra Tempel (which featured Klaus Schulze) disbanded: ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:17
|
^ Also, no one mentioned Steve Roach : started with sequenced berlin-school electronic music, then turned towards more ambient stuff. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 16:54
|
Steve Roach is awesome but he surprisingly isn't included in the PA database. His friend Robert Rich is though. Two great artists nonetheless. Ashra also had released some great music. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 17:11
yes, I suggested him for addition. Depending on the albums, he could be compared to Tangerine Dream (here in PA), Robert Rich (here in PA) or Brian Eno (here in PA). ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 17:59
|
^ Wonderful I actually haven't heard much from him, but I really enjoy Structures from Silence. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 30 2012 at 22:15
|
Over the past year or so, I've considered recommending Murcof for addition, but I'd like some opinions before I do so. He's generally in the ambient techno vein of Biosphere, but it much more experimental and emotional. Regardless of if I'm able to get them added, Murcof's music is excellent and I think anyone who enjoys the ambient side of progressive electronic music would surely enjoy his modern classical-influenced electronic style.
------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: July 01 2012 at 17:51
|
Tried to listen to Force Majeure on Spotify and was given message "This album is not available in United States". Carp! Ended up listening to Atem instead. Pretty good. A lot like Zeit, which I love. Speaking of "Majeure", I see that the band Majeure, a project of A.E. Paterra (Zombi) is not listed here. Seems to me it should be, but I am no expert on Progressive Electronic. Anyone else familiar with it? ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 01 2012 at 18:17
I personally would vote yes on Majeure ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 02 2012 at 08:01
|
There's been no mention of Redshift either. I don't know if any of you have heard them. They are on PA but there are very few reviews on here to consider I'm afraid.
If the Berlin School is your bag, you have to check these guys out. You get a very Tangerine Dream-ish sound circa 74-77, full of pulsing sequencers and anologue synths. A huge bonus is the albums are twice as long as TD's too. If you're willing to overlook the fact they are clearly very influenced by the likes of Phaedra and Rubycon some 35-40 years ago and listen to the music on it's merits then you are on to a winner.
It's like discovering a dozen unreleased TD albums from the 70s. I have several of their albums and honestly, some of their work, particularly the albums Redshift and Ether, is clearly superior to the artists that inspired them.
|
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 02 2012 at 11:43
|
I reviewed a Redshift album :D Really good stuff ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: July 02 2012 at 15:22
|
Good to see this thread! As a huge fan of Schulze (my absolute PE favorite) and Tangerine Dream, I think I need to check out Redshift. I've actually read the reviews, and they also get a thumbs up from Andy Tillison of The Tangent. For those who don't know, his solo albums feature quite a bit Kosmiche style. The Honing album mentioned is a favorite of mine. Got to check some of this other stuff out, especially Zombi. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 02:03
Nothing personel - just trying to get a good tread  ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 03:30
|
What about Aphex Twin from the "Richard D James album" to "Druqks" ? Goon Gumpas (some Jean Sibeius in that song) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziI--G1cQGM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziI--G1cQGM Meltphace 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTpO2SD7XpY&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTpO2SD7XpY&feature=related |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 07:51
You know something Gus, I thought I was the only one who like The Tangent's electronic excursions. I actually prefer them to some of the main tracks
 . I wasn't aware of Tillison's solo albums but heard he was planning on a TD-type album, and I'd be all over it.Redshift cds are pretty hard to get hold of, but their widely available for download on amazon, and pretty cheap too. Enjoy.
|
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 09:19
Well, there is no "TD type album" really, and I don't think he's planning to do one, but both solo albums, "Fog" and "Murk", have a lot of that style (along with bass, drums, keys, guitar type stuff all done by Tillison). "Fog" probably has the most Kosmiche stuff. Not sure if that one is available anymore, but you can get "Murk" on the web site. I'll look for the Redshift, thanks! |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 10:11
I enjoy Aphex Twin quite a lot and do consider him to be a progressive artist under the electronic music umbrella, but he's not "progressive electronic" as per PA's definition. The albums that he's released so far that have the closest resemblance to progressive electronic on PA are his two Selected Ambient Works albums, but even so, it's rarely progressive (though beautiful). My personal Aphex Twin recording: ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 11:13
You're right. I like his Ambient Works too. But I prefer when he wakes up from his meditations. 
|
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 11:18
|
Yeah, I enjoy the energy on his later albums. He's recently been doing some live remixes of Penderecki compositions and something else, which sound really good and are available on youtube. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 12:08
| Wow ! Thanks ! I'm gonna listen to it. For me, Krzysztof Penderecki and Aphex Twin are in a certain way the east and the west of modern music. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 13:39
|
Big Aphex Twin fan here as well, although I must admit liking his early albums far more. His ambient works are just sky-soaring beauties. Getting back on track here, I saw Redshift mentioned and I would just like to say that I too really like this band. Been listening to Ether the past two weeks, and I am seriously loving every second of it. Think I'm going on an electronic review spree in a little while, although I have so many Kraut and avant ones I wanna do as well  One album I feel gets little or no attention is Wolfgang Riechman's Wunderbar. I love the simplicity and easy to follow melodies of this release, and I may well review it one of these days. This is the selftitled opening cut, which I currently have an enormous crush on: ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 05:06
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha4jLUyQcLY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha4jLUyQcLY
|
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 10:19
|
Love that Automat album. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 07:39
|
My Aphex Twin preference is definitely for his earlier stuff. The two Selected Ambient Works albums are nothing short of genius by my reckoning. Heliosphan in particular is incredible. All the Analogue Bubblebath tracks are fantastic too. I find Drugqs a difficult listen, but I respect it's genius.
Has anybody heard the Global Communication album 76:14. Now there's an incredible electronic album that in my view is truly progressive. I know the guidelines that state why the likes of AFX do not qualify for PA but surely Global Communication do. I'm not going there though
 .With regard to FSOL, the irony is that whilst they are not on PA , one of their albums is
 . FSOL have been rejected before, however by way of a technicality, one of their albums, Fields of Ephidrina is. This was recorded under the name Amorphous Androgynous before they branched off as a separate project in the direction of psych rock (alienating a great many of their fans ). It is an FSOL album, pure IDM and you will find that on the 'chives . Pretty good it is too, though not as good as the seminal Lifeforms. An FSOL album I would totally recommend is Environments 2. Very much in the vein of Lifeforms but dare I say it, even better. A truly stunning album of beautiful ambience and textures that is as good as I've heard in a long long time.
Finally, my other half kindly bought me a cd as a gift, and it's only Redshift's new album Colder
 . I'm really looking forward to hear this and will get the chance to do so over the weekend. I'll report back next week with my initial verdict. |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 09:57
|
An IDM artist who is listed on PA and was an influence on Aphex Twin is Squarepusher...but he's in Jazz Rock/Fusion: ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 11:29
|
I've actually never really gotten into Squarepusher much, but his new album sounds like it is interesting based on some videos I've seen. He's a really great bassist, anyway. Is anyone else here besides David a F**k Buttons fan? I need to write a review of the Steve Moore album I've been listening to lately. I haven't done an electronic review in a long time :\ ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 11:35
|
Uhhhhmmmm Feck Buttons......'insert drool here'
I have The Henge from Steve Moore and like it quite a bit. Not as much as Zombi though. BTW there's a Scottish, I believe, electronic artist from the 80s called Steve Moore as well. Pretty cool stuff, and perhaps suited for this site as well. I am listening to Aqua by Edgar Froese at the moment. I still love your review of it Alan - very floating and picturesque, befitting the music quite brilliantly. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 12:17
That album is so good. I've been meaning to listen to it again lately but I keep forgetting. Too much black metal. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 13:58
Black metal is a pretty far cry from Berlin school, but then again I've been listening a lot to Magma lately... Eclectic music tastes sport a healthy soul, good lad ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 14:11
 I agree David. My old uncle Duffy used to say "Kid, don't try to name music by another name than music !"
|
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 06 2012 at 19:08
|
I am now listening to Aqua for the first time in what seems like forever. That feel when...  mmmmm ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 07 2012 at 09:10
|
I know what you mean Though, I must say that a vast portion of my Berlin School albums reside somewhere in the deep blue waters. There's that watery feel to them - maybe even the genre itself. It slushes and bobs very elegantly, which is one of the predominant reasons it speaks to me on such a personal level I guess. I've always been drawn to the sea - I love swimming, diving, sailing, walking on the beach listening to the waves crash - or maybe just spending the afternoon beside a running stream. Reminds me of this actually  (For the uninitiated - just wait a few minutes, and the track suddenly commences its watery electronic theme):------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 08 2012 at 11:01
|
I was a huge fan of Electronic music in America (as a child), and that began when my 4th grade music teacher introduced me to "Switched On Bach" by Wendy Carlos. She played it for the class and I was an instant fan at age 9. I was a strange child attempting to con my parents for money in return for duties such as mowing the lawn and house cleaning. I bought Beaver & Krause "Ragnorok", "In A Wild Sanctuary", Ruth White titles, Pauline Oliveros, Mort Garson, Wendy Carlos' Sonic Seasonings and many more. I had also experienced hearing electronic sounds recorded with string quartet during the invasion of experimental 20th century composers during the 60's. This all began for me in 66' and continued into the early 70's until by accident, I discovered the Electronic music scene in Berlin. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 09 2012 at 11:11
|
Great post Toddler! I too have an affinity for the peeps who come from rock prior to diving in at the deep end of electronics. Hell, most of the German pioneers came from Krautrock bands - one could even state that the out there mentality of those early progressive spirited bands ploughed the way for many an artists who relied on electronics. Schulze started out as a drummer, Froese as a guitarist - and I think a lot of other artists did this as well. The whole notion of 'knowing' instruments - but moreover how they feel and what they can do - goes hand in hand with the electronic world methinks, because you need to arrange the music to bear, at least, some traces with familiar music foundations. Bass, treble and rhythm - melodic segments and how you wish to portray them, -that is if you want that stuff - some artists went for the abstract stagnant floating universe, that ever so slowly sculpted itself so to speak. Schulze's Cyborg springs to mind for instance. I am definitely reading up on Mexican artists though... Thanks for the thoughtful post! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 09 2012 at 19:16
|
Allright shifting from my Solar Bears album to something more in the vicinity of this thread: Radio Massacre International, and Alan if you are reading this, this band also counts as a rec from me ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 09 2012 at 20:59
|
I already enjoy RMI and Steve Roach :o I'll check out the other artists you mentioned though ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 09 2012 at 22:48
All true facts stated here. Thanks for this post.
|
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: July 09 2012 at 23:04
| "Free System Projekt" were interesting and I have always enjoyed Steve Roach's "Dreamtime Return". Also Steve Roach's first project with Jorge Reyes. I used to have these animation vids of Steve Roach's early material. I also liked many of the Electronic pieces from Emerald Web's "Manatee of Dreams". They crossed into meditative "New Age" for years, but this was the one effort which remained to be all solid Electronic music. I really enjoy Biosphere, Red Shift, Radio Massacre International, and Jeff Grienke. One of my all time favorite Electronic efforts is titled "Sorcery From the Marshlands" by Wizard Projects. The artist first name was Eric. I fail to recall his last name. His music was distributed unfer the name Wizard Projects. It is simply a killer Electronic title that keeps me on the edge of my seat. I have never been able to obtain the cd. I used to hear it at a friend's house in the early 90's. |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 08:43
|
I am immensely enjoying Aidan Baker right now. -------------
|
Posted By: Moorglader
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 08:55
|
These guys were way ahead of their time: As was this largely forgotten gem from 1959! ------------- 'You are a divine being. You matter, you count. You come from realms of unimiganible power and light, and you will return to those realms' Terence Mckenna |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 22 2012 at 23:04
Awwww yeah. I've been listening to his solo stuff and Nadja lately. Great stuff. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 02:59
|
I downloaded a couple of Redshift albums over the weekend, Wild 2 and Faultline. Both were excellent on first listen. Track 1 from Wild 2 called Fuel and Pyro-Gen from Faultline in particular are absolutely amazing. These albums are incredibly cheap on download from amazon and are totally recommended.
Similarly, their newest album, Colder, which I have on cd, is great too. The TD influence seems much less these days, they definitely have their own sound. In any event, it may be heresy but I think Redshift are often better. There's much less filler and you get about 65-70 mins music per album too.
|
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 03:02
| With regard to Klaus Schulze I only know the classics (Mirage, Body Love etc) but this boxset series La Vie Electronique has really took my interest. Have any of you guys got these? If so, which are recommended. I thought perhaps Volumes 4 and 6 sounded best reading various EM site reviews, but I'd welcome any views before I take the plunge. |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 05:16
I've only heard that those La Vie Electronique sets were somewhat underwhelming, but I've not actually heard them for myself. If you do get one from the series, please do let us know how it is :D ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 05:17
|
And for those who are interested,
http://brokenspineprods.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://brokenspineprods.bandcamp.com/ has a lot of Aidan Baker/Nadja stuff available for free. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 06:16
|
Anyone else familiar with this new guy; Umberto? His moog/mellotron drenched Fabio Frizzi/Goblin/TD/Carpenter-soundng, fake OST's are very retro, but that's why I love it. Both From The Grave and Prophesy of the Black Widow are magnificent trips: |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 06:28
|
Australian 70's obsurity Cybotron are great fun and sometimes kinda cheesy. Like in the titletrack of their second album Colossus: Here's one from their selftitled 75-debut which is the more electronic of the two: Nothing essential I guess, but any mid-to late 70's TD-fan into sympho prog should enjoy this. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 06:41
|
Here's a couple of cool ones |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 06:43
Nice one Umberto 
Love that rare Morricone : "Trafelato" (1971)
No synths but it sounds electronic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqKh6g6onN4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqKh6g6onN4
|
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 23 2012 at 09:56
|
Umberto and Cybotron are awesome ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: zoviet
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 21:39
|
Tortoise - Beacons of Ancestorship the post-rock godfathers superb album from 2009, use of lotsa synths on this one, their most kraut-like work since Millions......
|
Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 21:48
I thought I was the only one who actually knew of Aphex Twin  SBB is a great band, with Memento that EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE. Woianie O Brzek Szkia is also great. Multi-layered proggy goodness. ------------- Check out my FREE album: A one-man project The Distant Dynasty |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 30 2012 at 11:26
|
Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co.
Great ambient work from 1973.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2tdlz2A8C0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2tdlz2A8C0
|
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: July 30 2012 at 13:29
I'm so glad someone acknowledged Reichmann!! Beautiful album, very Düsseldorf-sounding (although there are trace of Berlin school on album too). I'm astonished how he kept integrity - this track unmistakably reveals it's age without being new wave/synthpop; it uses reggae and remains transcendental without a hint of overused ska/dub clichés which will appear in years to come.The man was a visionary, I'm wondering what would had happen if he didn't died a tragic death. ------------- |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 30 2012 at 14:38
|
^Thanks for those kind words man! And yep, I've often wondered about what this man would have sounded like - had he not died at such a young age. My guess is some kind of German Gary Numan, albeit with a hefty dosage of Krautrock up his backside... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: July 30 2012 at 15:12
|
Reichmann was awesome k ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |