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Topic: Talking Passages
Posted By: WillieThePimp
Subject: Talking Passages
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 01:34
No not the stuff hardcore/emo bands do, I mean the random conversations held in a coffee house or an interrogation of a murderer played over the music? Hopefully I can answer some questions with this also.

The ones that perplex me most are in King Crimson's music. The first and foremost is the track Indiscipline off of "Discipline", what the hell are they talking about and who is it? That and the people speaking during the ending to Larks Tongues In Aspic pt.1?

Please post others that you know of and others that are also unknown!


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You can't possibly hear the last movement of Beethoven's Seventh and go slow. ~Oscar Levant, explaining his way out of a speeding ticket



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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 02:37
Here's a quote from a Robert Fripp biography:

Quote The fierce "Indiscipline" begins with tentative atonal metallic sounds, then lurches into all-out guitar mayhem over bass ostinati. Belew described the song's typically Crimsoid growth process:
"'Indiscipline' started out as a vehicle for some pretty erratic drumming. Originally it was almost a throwaway, a drum solo with a riff hung on it. Eventually I came up with a little melody, Robert came up with a line for himself, and at that point we thought no, it's still not enough ... So I thought of doing these talk sections throughout the song. We did that the very last day of recording. I took a letter my wife had written me about a painting she had done. I just took all these lines out of context without specifically naming what the subject was, then added a few lines of my own."


I hope that helps sort of.

Dark Side... is the over obvious album.

A Bill Hicks recording is on Aenima by Tool.

James.


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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 06:50

I like the Marillion ones in between songs on Script..., they really add to the song .



Posted By: USAGirl
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 07:07
I once heard some music in which a prostitute seemed to talk with a man who for some reason had no idea why he was with her. In the end she advised him to take off his trousers. It was hilarious, but I have no idea who the band were. Can anybody help?

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 07:10
I quite like all the tortured ranting on 'When The Walls Come Down'...the last track on Evergrey's new album, 'The Inner Circle'.

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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 10:23
eddie jobson's zinc!

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Posted By: WillieThePimp
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 11:25
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Here's a quote from a Robert Fripp biography:

Quote The fierce "Indiscipline" begins with tentative atonal metallic sounds, then lurches into all-out guitar mayhem over bass ostinati. Belew described the song's typically Crimsoid growth process:
"'Indiscipline' started out as a vehicle for some pretty erratic drumming. Originally it was almost a throwaway, a drum solo with a riff hung on it. Eventually I came up with a little melody, Robert came up with a line for himself, and at that point we thought no, it's still not enough ... So I thought of doing these talk sections throughout the song. We did that the very last day of recording. I took a letter my wife had written me about a painting she had done. I just took all these lines out of context without specifically naming what the subject was, then added a few lines of my own."


I hope that helps sort of.

Dark Side... is the over obvious album.

A Bill Hicks recording is on Aenima by Tool.

James.



Interesting  and obscure! Either way it will help when I listen to that track again today. I have been on a Crimson marathon lately.


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You can't possibly hear the last movement of Beethoven's Seventh and go slow. ~Oscar Levant, explaining his way out of a speeding ticket


Posted By: little_neutrino
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 11:26

Originally posted by WillieThePimp WillieThePimp wrote:

The ones that perplex me most are in King Crimson's music. The first and foremost is the track Indiscipline off of "Discipline", what the hell are they talking about and who is it? That and the people speaking during the ending to Larks Tongues In Aspic pt.1?

When I first read the lyrics through, without having listened to the song, I was puzzled and though, 'hmm, wonder what IT is.' Then I heard the song and thought instantly of a gun. No clue if that's true or not - apparently it's about a painting - ehh, well it's only my 0.02$.

I would LOVE to hear what the people speaking during Larks' Tongues are actually saying. I think it's a sampled something - likely from a movie - similar in vein to things like at the end of Pink Floyd's Have a Cigar or from The Wall, where they sampled many random old movies and shows (Gomer Pyle's 'Surprise, surprise surprise!' comes to mind! )

I sometimes get the urge to just take a song to a sound expert and get them to filter out everything BUT the speech - or at the very least, isolate the speech and turn THAT up so you can hear what it is. That would probably cost something, though, and I'm not quite that curious just yet.



Posted By: beterdedthnred4
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 11:27
My favorite of all time is the deranged cult leader's monologue at the end of Porcupine Tree's Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth.


Posted By: WillieThePimp
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 11:41
..."Before it is recycled."


I love that song, favourite on "Lightbulb Sun".


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You can't possibly hear the last movement of Beethoven's Seventh and go slow. ~Oscar Levant, explaining his way out of a speeding ticket


Posted By: DavidInsabella
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 11:57
On the slow song from Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance. Near the end whent he tone changes there's all kinds of it.

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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 14:06
On "Present", the reunion album of Van der Graaf Generator, there is some talking of the band members before the track "On the Beach".

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