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Topic: The Blog For The Weird And Unlistenable.Posted By: Sheavy
Subject: The Blog For The Weird And Unlistenable.
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 16:14
Basically stuff that tends to be rather loud, noisy, raw, strange, wierd, etc..
Hopefully Some Proggers out there will come to like some of the more less polished things in music.
So I'll start this off with a well known figure in the noise circles, Kevin Drumm.
Kevin Drumm has worked with many bands and people in avant and experimental scenes, including people such as Jim O'Rourke, Mats Gustafsson, Tony Conrad and many more. Drumm started off his musical journey by messing around with prepared guitars, and from their started to fiddle around with more experimentation with guitars and electronics.
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Replies: Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 16:17
Not sure if you've listened to him, but Merzbow is really great.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:01
Sorry guys, have to move this - A Blog it is, Prog it's not.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:17
colorofmoney91 wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
Not sure if you've listened to him, but Merzbow is really great.
Merzbow is beginner's noise. Try some C.C.C.C. and Cherry Point.
The Cherry Point is good stuff.
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:25
Dean wrote:
Sorry guys, have to move this - A Blog it is, Prog it's not.
Theres going to be some Prog on here. Nothing that purists think is Prog though.
Also, The Cherry Point is great too. One of (if not) the harshest noise bands out there.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: June 22 2012 at 20:44
I've got nothing better to do on a friday night. So I'll post another favorite noise maker of mine. Let me introduce you to Masahiko Ohno, better known as Solmania, who has garnered a cult status in the japanoise scene, with his guitar based noise freakouts, putting to shame the noise-y guitar freakouts of Fred Frith and Arto Lindsay.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 16:57
Today's blog is going to be about a favorite band of mine, and to celebrate their inclusion into the Archives, Ashtray Navigations. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7415" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7415
And, a review for Pearls..
"Imtriprovisation.
Ashtray Navigations is the main project of Phil Todd, who makes noisy psychedelic improvisation that has strong krautrock connotations to it.
Those Are Pearls That Were His Eyes is the umpteenth release by AN, and is in keeping with their style of long drawn psych wonderings. This album consists of one nearly fifty minute "song" consisting of nothing but oure trippyness. It starts out with a Nurse With Wound influence, with what could easily random pots, pans, spoons, and other assorted kitchenware, being banged around at random, set against an ambient backdrop of a recording of birds and light and airy synth dronings. As the song progresses, the kitchenware goes away, and gets replaced by some guitar dronings and scratches, with the ever constant airy synths. This rather noisy section then suddenly transitions into some lone, floating type guitar playing.
This album is not for the casual Prog fan, but for fans of the noisy side of Psych and Kraut, this album is a treat."
And, finally their bandcamp page http://ashtraynavigations.bandcamp.com/album/deadicated-to-the-sensory-armada" rel="nofollow - http://ashtraynavigations.bandcamp.com/album/deadicated-to-the-sensory-armada
Happy Trips!
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: June 29 2012 at 20:57
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 09:39
Sheavy wrote:
Good stuff^ I'll have to check more of that out.
Also it's Phantomsmasher, not Atomsmasher.
no, it's Atomsmasher, there is a mistake in the title. I have a hard copy of the album. Phantomsmasher is the follow-up to James Plotkin's project Atomsmasher.
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 18:13
Does Wolf Eyes fit?
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 18:46
lucas wrote:
Sheavy wrote:
Good stuff^ I'll have to check more of that out.
Also it's Phantomsmasher, not Atomsmasher.
no, it's Atomsmasher, there is a mistake in the title. I have a hard copy of the album. Phantomsmasher is the follow-up to James Plotkin's project Atomsmasher.
Ah, okay.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 19:40
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 20:31
A noise band called http://contortionistjazzexotica.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Contortionist Jazz Exotica found my music blog and
sent me a cassette tape to review. It is pretty harrowing stuff, but
also quite good if you're into horrible, unlistenable noise (which
really, who isn't?.)
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 20:40
thellama73 wrote:
A noise band called http://contortionistjazzexotica.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Contortionist Jazz Exotica found my music blog and
sent me a cassette tape to review. It is pretty harrowing stuff, but
also quite good if you're into horrible, unlistenable noise (which
really, who isn't?.)
Well if their photos of them playing are anything to go by, this should something definantly worth checking out.
Oh mah God, that part where she smashes the glass on her forehead was hilarious.
The second video is even more insane. 4:47 and on is crazy.
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Posted By: Jirpo
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 08:36
Cool blog! I'll check some of this stuff out!
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: July 19 2012 at 09:16
Sheavy wrote:
Today's blog is going to be about a favorite band of mine, and to celebrate their inclusion into the Archives, Ashtray Navigations. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7415" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7415
And, a review for Pearls..
"Imtriprovisation.
Ashtray Navigations is the main project of Phil Todd, who makes noisy psychedelic improvisation that has strong krautrock connotations to it.
Those Are Pearls That Were His Eyes is the umpteenth release by AN, and is in keeping with their style of long drawn psych wonderings. This album consists of one nearly fifty minute "song" consisting of nothing but oure trippyness. It starts out with a Nurse With Wound influence, with what could easily random pots, pans, spoons, and other assorted kitchenware, being banged around at random, set against an ambient backdrop of a recording of birds and light and airy synth dronings. As the song progresses, the kitchenware goes away, and gets replaced by some guitar dronings and scratches, with the ever constant airy synths. This rather noisy section then suddenly transitions into some lone, floating type guitar playing.
This album is not for the casual Prog fan, but for fans of the noisy side of Psych and Kraut, this album is a treat."
And, finally their bandcamp page http://ashtraynavigations.bandcamp.com/album/deadicated-to-the-sensory-armada" rel="nofollow - http://ashtraynavigations.bandcamp.com/album/deadicated-to-the-sensory-armada
Happy Trips!
HA! Great to see AshNav on here. Why though are they listed as a US band? They're Leeds-based. I've known Phil since 1995, and the first ever Ash Nav gig was a duo of him and me.
Meanwhile, any Smell and Quim fans here?
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 21:38
Stool Man wrote:
Sheavy wrote:
Today's blog is going to be about a favorite band of mine, and to celebrate their inclusion into the Archives, Ashtray Navigations. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7415" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7415
And, a review for Pearls..
"Imtriprovisation.
Ashtray Navigations is the main project of Phil Todd, who makes noisy psychedelic improvisation that has strong krautrock connotations to it.
Those Are Pearls That Were His Eyes is the umpteenth release by AN, and is in keeping with their style of long drawn psych wonderings. This album consists of one nearly fifty minute "song" consisting of nothing but oure trippyness. It starts out with a Nurse With Wound influence, with what could easily random pots, pans, spoons, and other assorted kitchenware, being banged around at random, set against an ambient backdrop of a recording of birds and light and airy synth dronings. As the song progresses, the kitchenware goes away, and gets replaced by some guitar dronings and scratches, with the ever constant airy synths. This rather noisy section then suddenly transitions into some lone, floating type guitar playing.
This album is not for the casual Prog fan, but for fans of the noisy side of Psych and Kraut, this album is a treat."
And, finally their bandcamp page http://ashtraynavigations.bandcamp.com/album/deadicated-to-the-sensory-armada" rel="nofollow - http://ashtraynavigations.bandcamp.com/album/deadicated-to-the-sensory-armada
Happy Trips!
HA! Great to see AshNav on here. Why though are they listed as a US band? They're Leeds-based. I've known Phil since 1995, and the first ever Ash Nav gig was a duo of him and me.
Meanwhile, any Smell and Quim fans here?
Cool. Thats awesome! I'd love to see Ashtray live.
Also yes, I love Smell & Quim. Such a f**ked up noise band, like they all should be.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 21:42
Just go listen to Xenakis:
Honestly, I actually found this listenable at least when the rhythms started pounding away. It's like Varese on steroids.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 21:48
And we mustn't forget the king of the noisemakers: Arnold Schoenberg (creator of the 12-tone style of composition and leader of the Second Viennese School of Music):
------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 21:59
Never much got into Schoenberg, but Xenakis is awesome.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 22:08
thellama73 wrote:
Never much got into Schoenberg, but Xenakis is awesome.
I tend to favor Schoenberg's pre-12 tone works like Verklarte Nacht (the version for string orchestra is a must-hear), Pelleas und Melisande, Gurrelieder, of his atonal works I like Five Pieces for Orchestra. Xenakis is a composer I need to become more familiar with. But he's the ONLY Greek composer that is ever discussed on classical forums it seems.
Another noisemaker is Alfred Schnittke:
Schnittke is probably best known for his polystylism, which is a style he practically invented. John Zorn owes A LOT to Schnittke in this regard.
------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 22:21
Schnittke is possibly my favorite 20th century composer. Absolutely genius.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 22:46
thellama73 wrote:
Schnittke is possibly my favorite 20th century composer. Absolutely genius.
I can't get into him to be honest. I do however think very highly of his Peer Gynt and many of his film works. I also liked Symphony No. 2. Such a haunting work. But I'm sure you can guess who my favorite 20th Century composer is....
Shostakovich, Bartok, Ravel, Vaughan Williams, Villa-Lobos, Prokofiev, Janacek, Berg, Stravinsky, Tippett, Szymanowski, Revueltas, Honegger, Britten...are composers I continue to come back to time and time again.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 21:48
Today I bring you a little known Noise-punk-rock band, the Jaunties.
The Jaunties was lead by Jason Willett, known for his work in 1/2 Japanese and various short lived 80's punk bands.
I really don't know too much other than that about this short lived band.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 21:54
One of my personal favorite noisemakers: Alban Berg (student of Schoenberg who, in my opinion, was much more successful in integrating the 12-tone method with tonal undercurrents):
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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 22:32
Unlistenable?
Have you guys heard my old band yet?
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 27 2012 at 00:00
Another noisemaker:
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 27 2012 at 09:42
Sheavy wrote:
Today I bring you a little known Noise-punk-rock band, the Jaunties.
The Jaunties was lead by Jason Willett, known for his work in 1/2 Japanese and various short lived 80's punk bands.
I really don't know too much other than that about this short lived band.
Cool, I didn't know about this group. I'm very familiar with Jason Willett thru his work in Half Japanese, but never knew what other bands he'd been in. Listened to a bit of them and it'd be a nice add to my collection. Thanks!
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Posted By: qpwoeiruty
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 01:20
jason willett was never in any 80's punk band. most bands that he's been in have never ended so most bands that he's been in or i should say in, are not short lived. he is still creating music..... the jaunties have made 4 albums & they are still a band.
Posted By: MortalScum
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 16:07
Some of you have probably heard of this project, but if you haven't Gnaw Their Tongues is definitely worth checking out!
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 18:34
Anyone familiar with The Work? An experimental post/punk/noise project, formed by Tim Hodgkinson of Henry Cow in the early 80's. Zany stuff, definitely weird and unlistenable
Here's their first EP from 1981,
No reviews on this band in the archives yet, but I'll check their other albums as well.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 19:51
qpwoeiruty wrote:
jason willett was never in any 80's punk band. most bands that he's been in have never ended so most bands that he's been in or i should say in, are not short lived. he is still creating music..... the jaunties have made 4 albums & they are still a band.
I was thinking of The Fair Brothers when I wrote that.
I would consider The Jaunties punk, as well as 1/2 Japanese to an extent though. I could only find Asthma and the singles collection disc The Jaunties for the discog. Both released in 1993. I apparently completely sucked at fact finding with this one.
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Posted By: qpwoeiruty
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 21:20
no worries on the fact finding. i often find that people who are hungry to discover are more interesting than people who are walking encyclopedias. there are 2 more albums by the jaunties entitled 'myoclonic twitch in the key of h' & 'yes lord!'. both are cds.
Posted By: qpwoeiruty
Date Posted: July 28 2012 at 21:25
'the work - slow crimes' was the first record to rival my crazy passion for 'trout mask replica' in the late 80's. still one of my favorite records.....
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: January 20 2013 at 01:47
Now is as good a time as ever to give you guys more crazy sh*t.
This one goes out to Alan and all the other noise freaks out there.
I bring you Nkondi.
Nkondi is extremely, incredibly harsh noise band from Portland OR. Real name is Erik Arteaga and he also runs the label dolldullofrivets which releases many a good noise stuffssss.
I have to say, I have been getting more and more into extremely loud noise (tho I still hate Variable Ambit), and this guy's stuff is absolutely one of the harshest noise in existence. Have a ruptured eardrum for yourself.
I am not responsible for blown speakers or hurt ears if you decide to not turn your sound down before playing this stuff. seriously.
Greetings! And Welcome to The Global Internet Church of Prog!
Hail the Prog and Praise "Bob"!
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 14 2013 at 00:25
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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 23:10
smartpatrol wrote:
I just posted an old soundscape of mine on bandcamp (link in signature). Really all my music is weird and unlistenable
It's probably better than this, Mr Moustache. It's raw but it takes us somewhere, so I guess you're holding the right end. I've enjoyed "Jam Excerpts", who felt uncomplete (because I'm feeling things wrong), but the more exciting to solo on.
Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 23:20
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 09 2013 at 18:11
How's about another entry? I'll make an effort to post more often here in the future.
Today let me bring to you three very influential (for weird and unlistenable music that is) bands from the sixties, the Nihilist Spasm Band, Musica Elettronica Viva, and AMM.
All bands were formed sometime I the mid 60's, all of the bands first records were released on mainstream labels (Polydor, Elektra, and Allied), and all three basically ditched any form of structure to their 'songs'.
All three are great free improve bands, each with their own sound. AMM tend to be more jazzy than the other two, The Nihilist Spasm Band almost has a rock quality about them (enough that i'd say they fit Avant-Prog definition, though it won't happen), and Musica Elettronica Viva are more on the electronic side of things.
Some YT's.
AMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqGmZJf1B4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-jkSaTrEAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI8ii6CT_pU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDLmFLQI-I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs7RZOCBb5c
The Nihilist Spasm Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUJ2rJhddxE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbW-m19SlFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI0dOXhasJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsyIicCAaB4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3MbKNw27Ak
Musica Elettronica Viva
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-J8uyTjYAo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzxLoCwiEy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLCoeMrDMPY
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Posted By: cslobotomy
Date Posted: January 11 2014 at 09:58
Thought you might enjoy this ...
New Album available in the form of a Pink latex Brain - Perform a home lobotomy to access the Dowload Code Within!
Also Vinyl and CD pre-orders available!
www.craigscottslobotomy.com
Hope its wierd enough for you ....
Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: January 11 2014 at 10:51
cslobotomy wrote:
Thought you might enjoy this ...
New Album available in the form of a Pink latex Brain - Perform a home lobotomy to access the Dowload Code Within!
Also Vinyl and CD pre-orders available!
www.craigscottslobotomy.com
Hope its wierd enough for you ....
Powerful approach for musical discoveries. I don't celebrate the era when lobotomy was trust as a the best possible treatment...