Egberto Gismonti
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Topic: Egberto Gismonti
Posted By: Mr Greeen Genes
Subject: Egberto Gismonti
Date Posted: June 04 2012 at 02:13
| Especially for what he did in the mid 70s, I think Egberto definitely deserves to be on progarchives. |
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: June 04 2012 at 02:32
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I assume this for JRF, and he has done two collabs with Jan Garbarek. ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 04 2012 at 14:38
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I give him a thumbs up for JRF. Long time fan. On CD I have: Works Sol Do Meio Dia Retratos Musica De Sobrevivencia Infancia ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: June 04 2012 at 15:54
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You might be interested in knowing that Gismonti is on this site's associated jazz site in the World Fusion section.
http://http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/ |
Posted By: rsinatra
Date Posted: January 04 2015 at 17:42
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How has someone not made a bigger case out of this? Egberto Gismonti started his career as more of a Brazilian popular musician, (despite already being quite experimental in his his early albums, showing very high compositional and instrumental level), and then he went on to to PROG. His prog might be the most original in Brazil, because it blends Brazilian popular music, jazz, and prog rock. Most of other progs usually ignore all Brazilian roots in favor of foreign rhythms, with exception of some prog folks such as a Barca do Sol, whose godfather was none other than Gismonti himself. I do not know if it would be a prejudice against jazzy chords and progressions or latin rhythms that prevent him from being here? I think progarchives is quite an open-minded website, and I am sure there is a lot of latin and jazzy stuff here. I mean, there is some Miles Davis cool jazz and Herbie Hancock post-bop jazz under the jazz-fusion rock. So why not Egberto's prog records, which are more closer to prog obviously? After 2-3 records experimenting with prog, he moved on and became this world jazz giant, recording many memorable albums for ECM, including a couple with jazz legends Jan Garbarek and Charlie Haden. But his two records, Academia de Danças and Corações Futuristas definitely have their hearts on prog. It may be weird for someone not familiar with Brazil's rhythms and harmonically complicated chords and melodies - and I hope I don't come off as an arrogant idiot - but this is what prog fans love, you just have to get to know it. It's truly beautiful, symphonic brazilian jazzy prog. These Egberto albums and Barca do Sol's discography may not be considered the best in prog to come out of Brazil, but they definitely represent the most Brazilian prog albums, that did not not abandon their roots.. here are both aforementioned albums by Gismonti Academia de Danças (1974) - Symphonic World Jazz Fusion Prog Corações Futuristas (1975) - Symphonic World Jazz Fusion Prog P.S. he studied classical piano in Vienna, and is also an incredibly accomplished guitarist , he plays on a 10-string classical guitar and some other crazy ones. He also plays flutes, sings... a true multi-instrumentalist. ------------- My album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y37kyLNUg78 |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 05 2015 at 03:31
| ^There was an discussion about him long time ago, I'll have to check it and get back to you. Those albums do sound interesting. |
Posted By: Prog-Brazil
Date Posted: February 21 2015 at 14:57
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another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMb4Ki76pAI ------------- Let the sunshine in |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 26 2015 at 04:18
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He's been rejected. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 26 2015 at 17:38
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There's always jazzmusicarchives, enjoy his presence there. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Prog-Brazil
Date Posted: March 22 2015 at 11:58
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Academia de Danças (1974): fusion ------------- Let the sunshine in |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 22 2015 at 12:25
Egberto is probably the one artist along with Terje Rypdal, that I have talked the most ... here as needing to be introduced to a "progressive" audience.
I am not sure that it will happen, because the definition wants a band that sounds like Genesis, ELP or a kind of metal'ized sound with keyboards these days.
I don't know what to say ... anything of Egberto up until Sanfona and an album or two after it, should be listed here. I, personally, do not like to see it listed in the JMA because it is lost and mired in too much of nothing and just like here, personal favorites, from folks that do not always listen to things a bit more.
What i think happens is that folks think that if they hear something different, it will make them lose their appreciation for what they like, and in all actuality, it works the other way ... not that way at all, while also gaining even more perspective on something else! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
rsinatra wrote:Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 22 2015 at 12:26
My personal favorite is "No Caipira' ... with one problem ... the music in there would drive the PA audience to the graveyard, and then they would be at my door screaming ... you call that music?  ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 22 2015 at 13:45
Last time I looked, Prog Archives.com is "Your ultimate prog rock resource". There is no doubting Gismonti's "progressiveness" in Brazilian music, jazz and world music. No question. But he is fundamentally a jazz performer. He is affiliated with jazz performers. He has released jazz albums. His music is played by other jazz musicians (like the sublime "Frevo Rasgado" by McLaughlin and de Lucia on Friday Night in San Francisco). It is the reason he's listed in the Jazz Music Archives.
See, it is this sort of patronizing bullsh*t that I find ridiculous. I own Gismonti albums (three to be exact, all while he was dabbling with fusion on the ECM label), but I don't really have the urge to discuss jazz on a prog rock forum. Because I have the ability to discern which genre is which and which forum is better suited for the discussion. Why is it so difficult for you to show such discernment and not continually insult everyone here? ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: December 11 2015 at 05:22
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His presence and MUSIC have more to do with PROG IN ITSELF than other jazz musicians in the archives, even MILES DAVIS. So, I was asking myself, why all the brazilian musicians (including me) get all this trouble to be here? Is Egberto less progressive than BJORK or PASSPORT? Why if any new brazilian artist is added to the site it has to be under FOLK even if they are Crossover, Ecletic, Psychedelic? (the instruments used of the bands I'm thinking about aren't different than Hawkwind and there is a band listed as top Crossover marks together with Peter Gabriel and was only accepted as FOLK). I already watched a lot of american or whatatever garage musicians being added quickly to the archives. THe fact is, years ago I thought brazilian music was SH*TTY. And then I found out interviews and stuff with prog and jazz and contemporary classical masters talking about who, how and why brazilian artists are probably the best in the world and I started digging underground. For example, Pat Metheny and that Radiohead guitarist talked about Toninho Horta and his compositions (including his music to Milton Nascimento, as the album Clube da Esquina). After all that praise I was asking why nobody even here knows about this guy? A deep research and you will understand: OUR MUSIC IS DYING BY SILENCE. And unfortunatelly, PA is glad helping this to happen. |