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Topic: Magma releases early version of new album art
Posted By: Zombywoof
Subject: Magma releases early version of new album art
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 20:40
http://kohntarkosz.blogspot.com/2012/02/we-tried-to-destroy-it-but-it-lives.html?m=1

So what do you guys think?



I really like the cover a lot. Can't wait for this one.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 21:25
Ehh, I don't think the album art is fantastic.  I'll be excited to get it either way, though.  

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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 21:34
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Ehh, I don't think the album art is fantastic.  I'll be excited to get it either way, though.  



I didn't at first, but its grown on me. Besides, this is an early version. Who knows? It might
change. I like the color scheme, in particular.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 21:40
I like everything but the type used for the title.  If I was doing it MY way, I'd just make the logo bigger and leave it wordless except for Magma.  

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Posted By: Monadology
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 22:46

I like it! Is the source reliable though?

Don't want to get excited over nothing.



Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: May 16 2012 at 22:54
The Kohntarkosz blog generally only posts things from reliable sources, yes. 

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 06:21
It's a nice shade of blue.  Kind of atypical for Magma, who normally deals in more severe colors like brown and black and red.

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 09:37
Yeah it's a bit of a change up. But I like the color, the font a bit less.

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Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 09:47
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

The Kohntarkosz blog generally only posts things from reliable sources, yes. 



Does Magma actually have an official site? I get all of my news from the blog.

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Yeah it's a bit of a change up. But I like the color, the font a bit less.


I like the font a lot, actually. But this is an early version, so maybe the font will change.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 11:15
This art reminds me of some covers for "arty bands" from the 90's.
Not sure if I would call this "minimal and sober" or "lazy" (yes, it's a bit harsh).


Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 14:14
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

This art reminds me of some covers for "arty bands" from the 90's. Not sure if I would call this "minimal and sober" or "lazy" (yes, it's a bit harsh).



Its better than any covers I've designed for bands...

But then, Magma always did like plain covers. Let the music speak.

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 14:38
Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

I like the color, the font a bit less.
Yeah, it's a nice color. The chalkboard font not so nice.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 17 2012 at 20:47
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Ehh, I don't think the album art is fantastic.  I'll be excited to get it either way, though.  
 
Agreed.
 
It's a nice blue, but thats the only thing I kind of like.


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 10:24
Horrible typeface, but it's still marginally better than the recently unveiled Anglagard cover.

There's some extracts up on their website http://www.seventhrecords.com/MAGMA/A37/html/english.htm" rel="nofollow - here .

Magma's never well-served by excerpts, but I can't say those made much of an impression. And at about 32 minutes for the whole album... well, I never expected to be this underwhelmed at the prospect of a new Magma album!


Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 10:53
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:


Horrible typeface, but it's still marginally better than the recently unveiled Anglagard cover.There's some extracts up on their website http://www.seventhrecords.com/MAGMA/A37/html/english.htm" rel="nofollow - here .Magma's never well-served by excerpts, but I can't say those made much of an impression. And at about 32 minutes for the whole album... well, I never expected to be this underwhelmed at the prospect of a new Magma album!


Sounds like more exciting music from Christian Vander, to me. Why are we so apprehensive about new releases from classic bands around here? Let's just enjoy the fact that Vander still feels like there's something for him to say.

It would appear also, that I'm the only one who actually likes the new cover art, even the hand-written style of the font.

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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 11:21
Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:


Sounds like more exciting music from Christian Vander, to me. Why are we so apprehensive about new releases from classic bands around here? Let's just enjoy the fact that Vander still feels like there's something for him to say.

It would appear also, that I'm the only one who actually likes the new cover art, even the hand-written style of the font.


I'm not, as a rule, apprehensive about new releases from old bands and certainly not when it comes to Magma. I adored K.A. and thought E-Re was pretty spiffy too (though perhaps not quite up to the same standard). I was merely saying that the actual content of those clips didn't really grab me and coupled with the pretty lean overall length of the album left me feeling a lot more underwhelmed than I'd expected.

It seems strange to me that they chose not to record more of the swathes of Magma material which they've been playing live for years but remain without a studio release. A studio version of Theusz Hamtaahk or Sl*g Tanz would have really helped to beef up what's looking to be a pretty lightweight record.

Of course, I could be wrong and when I hear the piece as a whole it may well blow me away. But for now, I'm a lot less excited than I thought I'd be!


Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 11:24
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:


Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:

Sounds like more exciting music from Christian Vander, to me. Why are we so apprehensive about new releases from classic bands around here? Let's just enjoy the fact that Vander still feels like there's something for him to say.

It would appear also, that I'm the only one who actually likes the new cover art, even the hand-written style of the font.
I'm not, as a rule, apprehensive about new releases from old bands and certainly not when it comes to Magma. I adored K.A. and thought E-Re was pretty spiffy too (though perhaps not quite up to the same standard). I was merely saying that the actual content of those clips didn't really grab me and coupled with the pretty lean overall length of the album left me feeling a lot more underwhelmed than I'd expected.It seems strange to me that they chose not to record more of the swathes of Magma material which they've been playing live for years but remain without a studio release. A studio version of Theusz Hamtaahk or Sl*g Tanz would have really helped to beef up what's looking to be a pretty lightweight record.Of course, I could be wrong and when I hear the piece as a whole it may well blow me away. But for now, I'm a lot less excited than I thought I'd be!


Perhaps, with this being a short record, Vander will do a followup very soon. My guess is that Magma, thanks to online sites such as this one, are probably more successful than ever and would probably stand to gain from new music now, more than ever.

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 00:57
Don't care about the cover, I want the album and mostly I want them to start playing live often, again. I miss them. 


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 18:11
It's certainly more of an ep in todays world. Hate that it will e full price.
 
Oh well...should still be a good album. I like the piece in concert (though I liked Sl*g better)


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 15:53
When is this going to be released?


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 16:07
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:

Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:


Sounds like more exciting music from Christian Vander, to me. Why are we so apprehensive about new releases from classic bands around here? Let's just enjoy the fact that Vander still feels like there's something for him to say.

It would appear also, that I'm the only one who actually likes the new cover art, even the hand-written style of the font.


I'm not, as a rule, apprehensive about new releases from old bands and certainly not when it comes to Magma. I adored K.A. and thought E-Re was pretty spiffy too (though perhaps not quite up to the same standard). I was merely saying that the actual content of those clips didn't really grab me and coupled with the pretty lean overall length of the album left me feeling a lot more underwhelmed than I'd expected.

It seems strange to me that they chose not to record more of the swathes of Magma material which they've been playing live for years but remain without a studio release. A studio version of Theusz Hamtaahk or Sl*g Tanz would have really helped to beef up what's looking to be a pretty lightweight record.

Of course, I could be wrong and when I hear the piece as a whole it may well blow me away. But for now, I'm a lot less excited than I thought I'd be!

I'm afraid I agree with everything here (except that I prefer E.Re to K.A). And the cover looks cheap. Everyone with photoshop can make something better than that in five minutes.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 16:16
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

When is this going to be released?
 
I believe the offical date is May 30th. (Wayside says they shall have it in my mid June.)


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 20:11
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

When is this going to be released?
 
I believe the offical date is May 30th. (Wayside says they shall have it in my mid June.)


Thanks.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 22 2012 at 21:16
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

When is this going to be released?
 
I believe the offical date is May 30th. (Wayside says they shall have it in my mid June.)


Thanks.
 
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Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: July 12 2012 at 16:58
Now that the new album is out, I haven't seen much discussion of it on PA. Rather than starting a new thread I thought I'd resurrect this one so that I can counter some of the earlier negative opinions a little.

I think it's a great album.  Even though I'd heard live versions of FT a few times, it hadn't made much of an impression with me but this studio version blew me away first time. It would be fair to say that there's nothing ground breaking about it but it sounds great to me and I'm more than happy with it.
 


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 12 2012 at 17:44
I like it a great deal despite having known all the music off it.  I think it's expensive for a short CD.  What I like much more about the studio "Felicite Thosz"" is the piano rather than keyboards, which gives it a much fuller and more satisfying sound to my ear.  I do wish Magma had made it longer with more material.  I can think of some music off Vander's Les Cygnes et les Corbeaux that would would have fit in nicely, or he could have added some more variations.  "Les Hommes Sont Venus" could be developed more/ expanded.  "Zahr" I would have liked to see trimmed -- not that I'll complain about something so short, but it's just so silly to me. 

I guess it's not really a bad thing, but it feels too short for me, which is far better than feeling too long.  Maybe because I'm a Morricone nut, but I find listening to some of his music with Edda Dell'Orso after finishing Felicite Thosz somehow gives the album more closure.

Aside from the piano, I really love the vocals on this album.  Christian Vander is exuberant, Stella Vander's are beautiful, and the others are terrific.  There's a really great male singer on it. 

The only two albums I've heard released this year are Rush's and Magma's.  I'm not really a Rush fan, but I have a good friend who is, and what a huge difference there is between those albums.  I saw an interview with Geddy Lee talking about how Clockwork Angels was one of the band's greatest  and how he felt he could finally really do "mellow", which he's struggled with.  I think Lee could learn a  thing or two from Vander, who I think very good at contrasts.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 12 2012 at 17:50
Why have I not bought this yet.... I'm slipping.

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 12 2012 at 18:10
I haven't yet either.  Didn't like the price on it.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 12 2012 at 18:16
It is, I think, overpriced for such a short album of music that many of us know earlier versions of already.

It really does surprise me that Vander didn't choose to make a longer album.  Most places aren't even selling it already.  I think that prices will go down.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: July 12 2012 at 18:26
It may be overpriced for a short album but it is excellent and I really enjoy it. Well worth it for me.


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 01:02
I'm glad that's an early version

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 01:14
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

I'm glad that's an early version

It's also the final version. LOL  Album's been out for a while.


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 05:21
Having heard some longer samples on Youtube I'm really excited to hear this one in full now, but I must echo the comments on the offputting price-to-length ratio. I'm generally not a fan of padding out albums, but an extra 10-15 minutes would have made this a much more tempting prospect.

The completist in me shudders at the thought, but I may just get a digital copy from amazon/itunes once it's released on those platforms. It would certainly be cheaper.


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 06:28
Havent heard this yet but the tracks are enticing  in length

1. Félicité Thösz (28:06)

Ëkmah - 2:39
Ëlss - 1:11
Dzoï - 2:27
Nüms - 1:51
Tëha - 5:15
Waahrz - 4:03
Dühl - 1:19
Tsaï ! - 3:41
Öhst - 4:53
Zahrr - 0:49

2. Les hommes sont venus (4:18)

Total Time: 32:24

Very short though and not getting a lot of notice with only 1 review by non collab...





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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 06:42
hMMM THESE TRACKS ARE VERY DIFFERENT:


That one is repetitive but some nice female vocals, and hardly any music with a tingling hypno rhythm - OK not bad but a bit dull




That was quite easy on the ears for magma, and more of a song then normal, beautiful vocals and really grows on you.



Beautiful piano solo very much just a ELP type piano piece and quite emotional and executed with wonderful drama. 




This is more like it - typical Magma, great rhythm, vocals superb and Vander a master on percussion as always. Ver nice female vocals dreamy and haunting.  




Hmmm, more very quirky percussion, and weirdness with narratives, spoken word and a French sounding vocals though its perhaps Kobaian. Ok thats enough for me - will have to get this album sometime when I pass a CD shop. 


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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 12:36
Vander should record Theusz Hamtaahk and Zess in the studio before he's too old to play the drums.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 12:46
It had been released? I wasn't exactly looking forward to news about Magma, but I'm surprised not have seen/read any article about it.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 16:52
It reminds me a bit of Beksiński's Otchłań, Drzewo Bez pamięci. But without its genious.

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Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 17:24
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

It may be overpriced for a short album but it is excellent and I really enjoy it. Well worth it for me.


I agree.  Quality over quantity for me any day.

I accepted a long time ago that my Magma habit was an expensive one.  I got off to a reasonable start with the box set but after that I have had to pay full price for everything. But I enjoy the music so much that I don't mind. I even paid £13 for the Floë Ëssi/ Ëktah single, which was much worse value than FT on a pounds per minute basis but I had no regrets.

Anyway, on the whole, CDs are much cheaper these days than they used to be so I look at the bigger picture.


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Posted By: ProgBob
Date Posted: July 13 2012 at 17:29
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:


The completist in me shudders at the thought, but I may just get a digital copy from amazon/itunes once it's released on those platforms. It would certainly be cheaper.


I've done that before now. The "Londres 1974" was one example where I wanted to hear it but couldn't justify the cost of the CD vs the download. If I recall, because it was only 2 tracks, on Amazon it was only £1.98 or something! The thing is that I loved it so much I ended up having to buy the CD anyway!


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: July 14 2012 at 06:37
Originally posted by ProgBob ProgBob wrote:

Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:


The completist in me shudders at the thought, but I may just get a digital copy from amazon/itunes once it's released on those platforms. It would certainly be cheaper.


I've done that before now. The "Londres 1974" was one example where I wanted to hear it but couldn't justify the cost of the CD vs the download. If I recall, because it was only 2 tracks, on Amazon it was only £1.98 or something! The thing is that I loved it so much I ended up having to buy the CD anyway!


Yeah, I fear feeling the same way. I've got Studio Zundh and E-Re on CD so if I do go digital for FT sooner or later that gap is probably going to gnaw away at me.

Trouble is, I'm crazy-poor and only really get to buy CDs twice a year, with whatever birthday/xmas pounds my loved ones happen to toss in my direction. There are already a ton of new releases I want to get in addition to FT (namely the new albums from Anglagard, Field Music, Alamaailman Vasarat and Thinking Plague. the upcoming miRthkon DVD and some stuff I missed out on last year like Bob Drake's latest) and there will doubtless be a load more by the end of the year. If the price difference is at least £4/5, which I fully expect it to be, then that could go some way towards those other essential purchases. Not an easy decision.


Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: September 01 2012 at 09:26
I caved and got the CD (which fortunately came down a bit in price when I was actually in a position to buy it) and goodness me, what a sublime little album it is! In many ways it's the polar opposite of E-Re, and all the better for it. A really unique and welcome addition to their oeuvre.



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