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Topic: 4 (popular) team sports poll
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: 4 (popular) team sports poll
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 04:41
four very distinct sports, with different elements, but also share simialritys, all are tacktical, sort of global, and are captivating but it is often the truth that most ether love 2 out of 4 or 1 out of 4, i have rarely met anyone who is equaly found of all, or a country who is eqaly solid in all four sports (exept maby France who is quite dominant in soccer, and handball, is respective in basketball and not a slouch at hockey), Russia is also quite solid in 3 out of 4 sports, Hockey and Handball they can be seen as top 3, they are competable in Soccer and i think they are okey in basketball,

US is quite dominant in Basket and hockey, hmm not really that bad in Soccer ether (were ranked 6 once) and have been in some quarterfinals, which is quite good actualy for a non-national sport, team handball have less follovers then syncronswimming and water polo (not dissing any of those sports, just hinting that thier popularity is higher ), but the lady handball team is quite okay, even qualified for playing in the olympics in China, 

UK have ceveral national teams Tongue (4 ), which all can be quite fierce and can beat of any national team (with the pausible exeption of Northern Ireland), they have a hockey olympic gold medal, though the team were canadian citysens, handball is even less popular then in US, and i guess they are quite okey in basketball,

so what is your favorite team sport out of these four types

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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 05:49
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

four very distinct sports, with different elements, but also share simialritys, all are tacktical, sort of global, and are captivating but it is often the truth that most ether love 2 out of 4 or 1 out of 4, i have rarely met anyone who is equaly found of all, or a country who is eqaly solid in all four sports (exept maby France who is quite dominant in soccer, and handball, is respective in basketball and not a slouch at hockey), Russia is also quite solid in 3 out of 4 sports, Hockey and Handball they can be seen as top 3, they are competable in Soccer and i think they are okey in basketball,

US is quite dominant in Basket and hockey, hmm not really that bad in Soccer ether (were ranked 6 once) and have been in some quarterfinals, which is quite good actualy for a non-national sport, team handball have less follovers then syncronswimming and water polo (not dissing any of those sports, just hinting that thier popularity is higher ), but the lady handball team is quite okay, even qualified for playing in the olympics in China, 

UK have ceveral national teams Tongue (4 ), which all can be quite fierce and can beat of any national team (with the pausible exeption of Northern Ireland), they have a hockey olympic gold medal, though the team were canadian citysens, handball is even less popular then in US, and i guess they are quite okey in basketball,

so what is your favorite team sport out of these four types

Handball and ice hockey? Both are minor sports that are played only in a handful of countries. Unfortunately the latter is quite big here, and I simply hate it. Ice hockey is the most un-esthetic pastime you can find, perhaps challenged only by all these rugby type games that are played in Britain, USA and Australia/NZ. I also hate the machismo attitude of ice hockey.

Basketball is fun to play, not to watch. Footy is both.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 05:53
Football I guess.  Not four sports I would have chosen for a poll. I loathe basketball. Horrible squeeky sweaty  game.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 05:54
If you mean Ice Hockey you should put Ice Hockey as Hockey is another game.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 05:55
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

four very distinct sports, with different elements, but also share simialritys, all are tacktical, sort of global, and are captivating but it is often the truth that most ether love 2 out of 4 or 1 out of 4, i have rarely met anyone who is equaly found of all, or a country who is eqaly solid in all four sports (exept maby France who is quite dominant in soccer, and handball, is respective in basketball and not a slouch at hockey), Russia is also quite solid in 3 out of 4 sports, Hockey and Handball they can be seen as top 3, they are competable in Soccer and i think they are okey in basketball,

US is quite dominant in Basket and hockey, hmm not really that bad in Soccer ether (were ranked 6 once) and have been in some quarterfinals, which is quite good actualy for a non-national sport, team handball have less follovers then syncronswimming and water polo (not dissing any of those sports, just hinting that thier popularity is higher ), but the lady handball team is quite okay, even qualified for playing in the olympics in China, 

UK have ceveral national teams Tongue (4 ), which all can be quite fierce and can beat of any national team (with the pausible exeption of Northern Ireland), they have a hockey olympic gold medal, though the team were canadian citysens, handball is even less popular then in US, and i guess they are quite okey in basketball,

so what is your favorite team sport out of these four types

Handball and ice hockey? Both are minor sports that are played only in a handful of countries. Unfortunately the latter is quite big here, and I simply hate it. Ice hockey is the most un-esthetic pastime you can find, perhaps challenged only by all these rugby type games that are played in Britain, USA and Australia/NZ. I also hate the machismo attitude of ice hockey.

Basketball is fun to play, not to watch. Footy is both.

Rugby Union is a beautiful and passionate game.


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 08:52
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:


Handball and ice hockey? Both are minor sports that are played only in a handful of countries. Unfortunately the latter is quite big here, and I simply hate it. Ice hockey is the most un-esthetic pastime you can find, perhaps challenged only by all these rugby type games that are played in Britain, USA and Australia/NZ. I also hate the machismo attitude of ice hockey.

Basketball is fun to play, not to watch. Footy is both.


Machismo attitude? Who would consider such a horrible thing existing amongst male competitive athletes?



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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 09:06
Voted for hocky because I enjoy hockey, the first two listed are utter sh*t, and I've never seen team handball.  Soccer and basketball have the amazing ability of being equally boring but for completely opposite reasons.  One has men of average height slowly plodding up and down a field the size of Central Park for what seems entire days and never scoring, despite having a net 20 times the size of the guy protecting it, while the other has a bunch of tall guys on a small, indoor, court just going back and forth scoring so often that it's pointless to watch anything but the last minute.  Also, dunking a basketball is the most overrated thing in all of sports.

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 09:19
Not what I expected....
Was certain it would be:
Soccer/Football
Handegg
Baseball
Hockey (maybe bball)


Well my favorites aren't listed and I don't like basketball, and don't know team handballConfused
So I guess Hockey


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 10:32
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Not what I expected....
Was certain it would be:
Soccer/Football
Handegg
Baseball
Hockey (maybe bball)


Well my favorites aren't listed and I don't like basketball, and don't know team handballConfused
So I guess Hockey
 
That would be a list of sports popular in the States.  Big smile
 
Football of course.  I always think Basketball is a sport about missing rather than scoring.  Dull to watch.
 
Handball is a very popular sport especially in Europe.  Baseball is about as international as Pelota.


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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 10:54
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

 Machismo attitude? Who would consider such a horrible thing existing amongst male competitive athletes?

What goes on on ice doesn't really bother me, but rather what the ice hockey people write in the papers and/or say on TV. That's soooo 20th century.

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Soccer and basketball have the amazing ability of being equally boring but for completely opposite reasons.  One has men of average height slowly plodding up and down a field the size of Central Park 

Isn't it about the same size as in those rugby related games (ca. 100mx70m)? I think football is much easier to follow even for those who aren't really familiar with the game than the different rugbies/handegg games, because all players aren't chasing the ball and each other all the time. In the American rugby, they are even wearing gear that makes it impossible to recognize the creatures bumping into each other on the pitch. And there are also too many lines on the pitch.

Ice hockey on the other hand is even more strange game. Players wear similar gear to those American handegg players, but you can hardly see the puck they play with. Players even wear gloves and helmets, yet they always take them off before they start whacking each others's faces. Why do they have the helmets?

It's funny that there are more registered football players in the USA than in any other country, both male and female, and the USA has also become one of the top international teams the world. Yet only few people see it as an American game. 


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 11:26
I've played Soccer for years and I really enjoy playing it and watching it. I also love watching Hockey, but I don't think I'd be really fit to play it; Plus, it's expensive.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 11:48
Soccer/Football

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 11:54
The great thing about football is that you can play it anywhere and with just about any number of people.  

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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 12:00
I'm a bad editor.....Dead


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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 12:02
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

 Machismo attitude? Who would consider such a horrible thing existing amongst male competitive athletes?

What goes on on ice doesn't really bother me, but rather what the ice hockey people write in the papers and/or say on TV. That's soooo 20th century.


Well, I can't disagree with that. Sports writers/commentators in general are pretty bad. Only surpassed in poor professional writing skills by internet political correspondents. I would be so much happier with televised athletics if they just had an in-arena mic and let us supply our on thoughts and analysis.




Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

The great thing about football is that you can play it anywhere and with just about any number of people.  

Which is what makes it the most popular sport in the world. All you need is something round (about the size of a head, hopefully soft), the ability to draw a giant rectangle on the ground, and 4 sticks to mark the goals.


OOPS!!! EDIT FAIL DOUBLE POST! SORRY...


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 13:19
To play? Soccer.  To watch, I prefer hockey


Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 14:33
I find football/soccer to be somewhat appealing, but have never really gotten into the sport.  From the list, basketball, because it's fun to play (sometimes) and I enjoy the college game when I get around to watching it.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 16:47
I can't stand soccer.
Ice hockey is to me what Water Polo would look to a Saharaoui.

A friend of mine plays in a female handball team. She must bring me some pictures taken in the showers.
So, I vote for handball.


Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 17:10
1. Football (I refuse to add its rather idiotic name used in North America)
 
2. Ice Hockey
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
3. Handball
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
4. Basketball


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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 17:40
where the f**k is baseball!?! That's the best sport out there (well, that and Quidditch)!

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 18:09
^ Trouble is Baseball is so international they play Quiditch in more countries than that.
 
Guess its not that popular.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 18:29
^Yeah, I don't think Baseball is THAT international. We've got it here in Norway, but it's basically played by kids in school playgrounds on a highly unorganized levelWink
 
And we don't call it Baseball. We call it 'slåball' (yes, with an 'å')Approve


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 18:40
^ What he said.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 13 2012 at 18:48
Of these choices, Hockey.

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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 09:38
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

^ Trouble is Baseball is so international they play Quiditch in more countries than that.
 
Guess its not that popular.

AFAIK baseball is the most popular sport in Japan, practically their national game. Apart from that I believe it's a major sport in US only. There are of course different variants of the same game, like cricket and pesäpallo. Cricket must be the most widely spread game of that genre, because it's big in many parts of the Commonwealth, especially in South Asia.

Football is number one game in all but two European countries when measured by the number of spectators. The exceptions are Lithuania (basketball) and Finland (ice hockey), but if you count by the number of players, football is easily number one also in Finland.


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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 10:51
I'm surprised Basketball has so little love D: . It's probably my favorite sport along with Amercian Football. 

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 10:57
^Israelis just love basketball.

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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 11:36
Football, the real one (you know, with a real ball and played with feet), that's the most popular sport on Earth, also my favorite. 

But I also love basketball, baseball and Volleyball, but those are not that popular. 




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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 11:50
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Israelis just love basketball.

true dat :)

We just like the sport's we are good (relative to other sports, because in reality we rather suck in all of them) at.


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 13:19
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

^ Trouble is Baseball is so international they play Quiditch in more countries than that.
 
Guess its not that popular.

AFAIK baseball is the most popular sport in Japan, practically their national game. Apart from that I believe it's a major sport in US only. There are of course different variants of the same game, like cricket and pesäpallo. Cricket must be the most widely spread game of that genre, because it's big in many parts of the Commonwealth, especially in South Asia.

Football is number one game in all but two European countries when measured by the number of spectators. The exceptions are Lithuania (basketball) and Finland (ice hockey), but if you count by the number of players, football is easily number one also in Finland.
 
I had never thought of Cricket and Baseball as varients of the same game.  So I suppose if you did include the (wonderful) game of cricket and the true origin (possibly) of Baseball that is Rounders, then I suppose its pretty worldwide.  However, I wouldn't, as Cricket and Baseball are pretty different games and I don't think there is any proof that they come from the same game.  If you did include them, then you surely would have to include Rugby and all it's varients with football? As I guess they more than likely came from the same kind of game they used to play between two villages (literally). 
 
 


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 13:27
^Hard to think of Cricket and Baseball being the same thing. Not even similar really. Well a little similar of course. I don't think Baseball came from Rounders. Probably the other way around. Although Baseball was created in the UK it didn't hold on it seems.

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 13:46
^  Having had a quick check of the historical record that is Wiki, it seems Rounders and Baseball were indeed developed here but were regional variations.  Both possibly coming from something called 'Stoolball' .  Cricket 'might' have come from Flanders! 
 


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 13:58
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

AFAIK baseball is the most popular sport in Japan, practically their national game. Apart from that I believe it's a major sport in US only.
It's pretty popular in Cuba too, but that's about it.

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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 14:08
Cricket, baseball, pesäpallo, boboll, you name 'em... all have people standing and running on the pitch, throwing a ball and trying to hit it with a bat. That's pretty much the same family to me, just as all those handegg games form a group of games.

In a way football and basketball are also related to each other, but the difference is that in footy you aren't allowed to touch the ball with your hands, and in basketball you can only handle it. And in both games you try to hit a goal with a ball.

In my youth athletics used to be very popular. Nowadays no one seems to do anything like it as a hobby. Those sports were spoiled by money and doping. IMO there should be two series: one where all doping is allowed and one where it's prohibited. You could choose to compete in the previous, but if you're caught using doping, the non-doping series would be closed for you for good.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 14:16
^No football and rugby are from the same family, basketball is not. And Cricket has only a slight similarity to baseball. They are worlds  apart otherwise. And why do you keep calling it "handegg"? Is there something wrong with you?

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 14:24
[QUOTE=Snow Dog] ^No football and rugby are from the same family, basketball is not. And Cricket has only a slight similarity to baseball. They are worlds  apart otherwise. And why do you keep calling it "handegg"? Is there something wrong with you?[/QUOTE]
 
 
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 14:31
Actually, ironically, football and handball are probably the closest relations here^  With one slight difference!
 
THere is a prize for the first person to spot the difference between Handball and Football! 
 
Not much of a prize.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 16:25
But football and rugby were seperated at birth so to speak. Their history is connected. The history of basketball, or handball for that matter, and football has got nothing to do with each other.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 17:01
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Actually, ironically, football and handball are probably the closest relations here^  With one slight difference!
 
THere is a prize for the first person to spot the difference between Handball and Football! 
 
Not much of a prize.


Handall is more... elegant. Cool


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 17:09
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 14 2012 at 17:21
Tennis, anyone?

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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 00:47
^ Tennis is probably my 3rd favorite, maybe even my 2nd favorite.

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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 01:07
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

And why do you keep calling it "handegg"? Is there something wrong with you?
 
Oh, most surely there is! Ouch Handegg... doesn't it describe pretty well the shape of the playing object and the manner in which it is moved around the pitch?


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 12:03
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:


Basketball is fun to play, not to watch. Footy is both.


I also believe this, and this is the first time someone else says the same. Cool!

I'd put handball on the same level with basketball for me. Not as fun to play, but much more entertaining to watch.

Especially Nordic teams of women's handball... Embarrassed


Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Tennis, anyone?


Hardly a team sport. Wink


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 12:09
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

And why do you keep calling it "handegg"? Is there something wrong with you?
 
Oh, most surely there is! Ouch Handegg... doesn't it describe pretty well the shape of the playing object and the manner in which it is moved around the pitch?

No it just sounds silly.Tongue

(Actually sounds like someone who hates these sports, ridiculing it)


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 12:52
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:


Basketball is fun to play, not to watch. Footy is both.


I also believe this, and this is the first time someone else says the same. Cool!

I'd put handball on the same level with basketball for me. Not as fun to play, but much more entertaining to watch.

Especially Nordic teams of women's handball... Embarrassed



I think I know which team you're "targetting" and which players.


Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 13:11
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

(Actually sounds like someone who hates these sports, ridiculing it)

All sports are basically ridiculous. I can't hate a sport an sich.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 13:14
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

(Actually sounds like someone who hates these sports, ridiculing it)

All sports are basically ridiculous. 
Are they? I didn't realise.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 20:49
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:



Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Tennis, anyone?


Hardly a team sport. Wink

Right, I forgot about that. Cool Still an awesome sport though and I suppose playing doubles might count as a small team. My grandpa was a big tennis player and he got me into it when I was very young; I've been playing ever since.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 15 2012 at 21:31
Of course my favorite sport to watch and play is Football (I can't stand that silly name soccer).

Then comes Baseball, Volley, Tennis.

The game I can't stand is Basketball, you see one game you seen all, It's more boring than watching the grass grow.

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 02:23
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Voted for hocky because I enjoy hockey, the first two listed are utter sh*t, and I've never seen team handball.  Soccer and basketball have the amazing ability of being equally boring but for completely opposite reasons.  One has men of average height slowly plodding up and down a field the size of Central Park for what seems entire days and never scoring, despite having a net 20 times the size of the guy protecting it, while the other has a bunch of tall guys on a small, indoor, court just going back and forth scoring so often that it's pointless to watch anything but the last minute.  Also, dunking a basketball is the most overrated thing in all of sports.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 03:35
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Of course my favorite sport to watch and play is Football (I can't stand that silly name soccer).



Soccer is a totally legitimate word for the game of Association Football.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 03:45
for you americans this is team handball (JJLetho) most action filled teamsports.

often called the most "american" sport not popular in America

this is a bad version of Handball (technicaly) but a nice way to show how it is build and how to play it



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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 05:57
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Soccer is a totally legitimate word for the game of Association Football.
Yes, but it's silly anyway, although I understand why some have to use that name for it.
 
When you have chosen to give a game where you carry around an egg shaped (yes, it looks like an egg) ball with your hands the name of football, it's understandable that you need to call a game where you kick a ball with your feet something else.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 06:02
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Soccer is a totally legitimate word for the game of Association Football.
Yes, but it's silly anyway, although I understand why some have to use that name for it.
 
When you have chosen to give a game where you carry around an egg shaped (yes, it looks like an egg) ball with your hands the name of football, it's understandable that you need to call a game where you kick a ball with your feet something else.

They are both football. I don't see your point. (It doesn't look like an egg btw)

I remember when the word soccer was used quite frequently, along with rugger. They both seem to have fallen into disuse in this country. My theory is that people hate the word soccer because that is what they call it in the US(not just there Australia and NZ too) but it a UK word.


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 06:07
Soccer is based on a corruption of Association Football (an original English coinage) - such nomenclature is only extant in those countries where other teams games are in the ascendency in terms of popularity e.g Australia, USA, Canada etc

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 06:26
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

My theory is that people hate the word soccer because that is what they call it in the US(not just there Australia and NZ too) but it a UK word.
That's probably right, well in my case anyway. I think it's a weird name for it, but understands why it's called that in the States and other places.
 
I didn't know the word "soccer" had been used quite frequently in the UK, though. Interesting!
 
And btw, the ball used in rugby, American, Australian and Canadian football is egg-shaped, well, according to wikipedia anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28ball" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(ball )


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 06:27
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

My theory is that people hate the word soccer because that is what they call it in the US(not just there Australia and NZ too) but it a UK word.
That's probably right, well in my case anyway. I think it's a weird name for it, but understands why it's called that in the States and other places.
 
I didn't know the word "soccer" had been used quite frequently in the UK, though. Interesting!
 
And btw, the ball used in rugby, American, Australian and Canadian football is egg-shaped, well, according to wikipedia anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28ball" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_(ball )

Ok...but not any egg I have eaten is that shape.Wink


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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 18 2012 at 18:15
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

 
They are both football. I don't see your point. (It doesn't look like an egg btw)

But where's the ball in the game you're obviously talking about? I've never seen an egg of that shape, but the playing object carried by hand is not a spherical. Why call it footballTongue


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 00:25
What I read is that the word soccer comes from 19th century England, so that should settle it.

[Well... It was a wise man on an internet forum saying this, it must be right. He seemed very knowledgeable on the issue.]


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 05:29
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

 
They are both football. I don't see your point. (It doesn't look like an egg btw)

But where's the ball in the game you're obviously talking about? I've never seen an egg of that shape, but the playing object carried by hand is not a spherical. Why call it footballTongue

Because it is kicked  by the foot.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:12
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

 
They are both football. I don't see your point. (It doesn't look like an egg btw)

But where's the ball in the game you're obviously talking about? I've never seen an egg of that shape, but the playing object carried by hand is not a spherical. Why call it footballTongue

Because it is kicked  by the foot.
Most of the time it looks like team Sumo Wrestling to me, the actual kicking of the prolate spheroid pig's bladder is somewhat minimal and its presence in the game a little superfluous.
 
Both hand-egg and rugby seem tame after playing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_bulldogs_%28game%29" rel="nofollow - British Bulldog . Wink


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:23
^There is actually quite a lot of kicking in rugby, much more than in American Football. Maybe you just don't notice it. In fact one'll often hear the shout "Stop kicking the Censored ball" when watching with friends

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:39
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^There is actually quite a lot of kicking in rugby, much more than in American Football. Maybe you just don't notice it. In fact one'll often hear the shout "Stop kicking the Censored ball" when watching with friends
LOL yep - the forward pass rule tends to force kicking as a means of progressing up the pitch - at one time English rugby and English football almost looked like the same game with the amount of "long balls" being played, but at least in rugby that was due to our ability to win a line-out whereas in football we never seemed to connect with those long passes very well.


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:48
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

 
They are both football. I don't see your point. (It doesn't look like an egg btw)

But where's the ball in the game you're obviously talking about? I've never seen an egg of that shape, but the playing object carried by hand is not a spherical. Why call it footballTongue

Because it is kicked  by the foot.
Most of the time it looks like team Sumo Wrestling to me, the actual kicking of the prolate spheroid pig's bladder is somewhat minimal and its presence in the game a little superfluous.
 
Both hand-egg and rugby seem tame after playing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_bulldogs_%28game%29" rel="nofollow - British Bulldog . Wink
 
British Bulldog was great.  We used to play a version where the Bulldogs when they became bulldogs (By being caught) would hold hands and form a chain.  THe others would either have to run round them or break through the bulldogs grip!  Which could be painful depending on how brave everyone was.  It was of course played on asphalt and caused plenty of knee damage. 
 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:50
^Murderball was worse!Ouch

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:52
Did anyone play "Kerb" when young?

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:56

We did occasionally play Murderball but I guess we were a bit soft! 

 
What was Kerb?


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:57
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

It was of course played on asphalt and caused plenty of knee damage. 
 
Too true - my knees took years to recover - though the worse for me was playing in a sports hall and getting cannoned into the wall.
 
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Murderball was worse!Ouch
 
I think they were as "bad" as each other - and regardless of how the games were supposed to be played they usually end up the same - a mass "bundle" - most of the time it was an excuse for condoned thuggery and exacting petty revenge - and I loved it. Approve


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 06:57
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

It was of course played on asphalt and caused plenty of knee damage. 
 
Too true - my knees took years to recover - though the worse for me was playing in a sports hall and getting cannoned into the wall.
 
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Murderball was worse!Ouch
 
I think they were as "bad" as each other - and regardless of how the games were supposed to be played they usually end up the same - a mass "bundle" - most of the time it was an excuse for condoned thuggery and exacting petty revenge - and I loved it. Approve

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:00
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

We did occasionally play Murderball but I guess we were a bit soft! 

 
What was Kerb?

Twp people stand on opposite sides of the road, one with a football. The aim was to throw at the opposite kerb and hit it. If the ball came back to you  it was one point. If It bounced of the kerb and you caught it, two points. A miss and your opponent gets his go. First to, usually 10 or 20, wins.


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:01
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

It was of course played on asphalt and caused plenty of knee damage. 
 
Too true - my knees took years to recover - though the worse for me was playing in a sports hall and getting cannoned into the wall.
 
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Murderball was worse!Ouch
 
I think they were as "bad" as each other - and regardless of how the games were supposed to be played they usually end up the same - a mass "bundle" - most of the time it was an excuse for condoned thuggery and exacting petty revenge - and I loved it. Approve

LOL
 
LOL
 
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:03
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

We did occasionally play Murderball but I guess we were a bit soft! 

 
What was Kerb?

Twp people stand on opposite sides of the road, one with a football. The aim was to throw at the opposite kerb and hit it. If the ball came back to you  it was one point. If It bounced of the kerb and you caught it, two points. A miss and your opponent gets his go. First to, usually 10 or 20, wins.
 
Christ yes!  I had forgotten that. 
 
Also the game where everyone sits on the ground and someone tried to kick the ball as hard as they can at your body!  Was that Wembley ?  Or was Wembley something else?


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:04
^Sounds a bit like knock out or something like that. Well  the one I'm thinking of is you all sit in a circle and one person kicks the  ball at you. One can only defend with the feet. Anything else hit and you join the kicker slowly surrounding the lone survivor!!!!

We might have called it FA actually. can't remember.


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:07
That's the one^  No I don't remember what it was called!  Oh well

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:10
Funny how we all know the same  games and we live apart. How did these games travel?

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:21
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

We did occasionally play Murderball but I guess we were a bit soft! 

 
What was Kerb?

Twp people stand on opposite sides of the road, one with a football. The aim was to throw at the opposite kerb and hit it. If the ball came back to you  it was one point. If It bounced of the kerb and you caught it, two points. A miss and your opponent gets his go. First to, usually 10 or 20, wins.
 
Christ yes!  I had forgotten that. 
 
Also the game where everyone sits on the ground and someone tried to kick the ball as hard as they can at your body!  Was that Wembley ?  Or was Wembley something else?
Wembley: http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=1085" rel="nofollow - http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=1085  
 
We played "kerb" as "wall ball", but essentially the same game.
 
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Funny how we all know the same  games and we live apart. How did these games travel?
I think these games travelled because families did, a new kid at school would introduce a variant on something already played.
 
LOL looking through teh http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=index&d=2" rel="nofollow - Gastly Games website is bring back memories ... kiss-chase and knicker-chase ("Infants school "game" where the participants chase the girls and try to pull down their skirts so you could see their knickers. But nobody ever knew WHY") must have lost their appeal at an all boys school, fortunately I was co-ed all my school life Wink
 


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:27
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

We did occasionally play Murderball but I guess we were a bit soft! 

 
What was Kerb?

Twp people stand on opposite sides of the road, one with a football. The aim was to throw at the opposite kerb and hit it. If the ball came back to you  it was one point. If It bounced of the kerb and you caught it, two points. A miss and your opponent gets his go. First to, usually 10 or 20, wins.
 
Christ yes!  I had forgotten that. 
 
Also the game where everyone sits on the ground and someone tried to kick the ball as hard as they can at your body!  Was that Wembley ?  Or was Wembley something else?
Wembley: http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=1085" rel="nofollow - http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=1085  
 
We played "kerb" as "wall ball", but essentially the same game.
 
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Funny how we all know the same  games and we live apart. How did these games travel?
I think these games travelled because families did, a new kid at school would introduce a variant on something already played.
 
LOL looking through teh http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=index&d=2" rel="nofollow - Gastly Games website is bring back memories ... kiss-chase and knicker-chase ("Infants school "game" where the participants chase the girls and try to pull down their skirts so you could see their knickers. But nobody ever knew WHY") must have lost their appeal at an all boys school, fortunately I was co-ed all my school life Wink
 

That Wembley game (Which we called FA cup) is not the game he is referring to but the game I described. I remember "Catch and kiss" at school. Mixed sex also.


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 09:42
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

We did occasionally play Murderball but I guess we were a bit soft! 

 
What was Kerb?

Twp people stand on opposite sides of the road, one with a football. The aim was to throw at the opposite kerb and hit it. If the ball came back to you  it was one point. If It bounced of the kerb and you caught it, two points. A miss and your opponent gets his go. First to, usually 10 or 20, wins.
 
Christ yes!  I had forgotten that. 
 
Also the game where everyone sits on the ground and someone tried to kick the ball as hard as they can at your body!  Was that Wembley ?  Or was Wembley something else?
Wembley: http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=1085" rel="nofollow - http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=2&t=1085  
 
We played "kerb" as "wall ball", but essentially the same game.
 
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Funny how we all know the same  games and we live apart. How did these games travel?
I think these games travelled because families did, a new kid at school would introduce a variant on something already played.
 
LOL looking through teh http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=index&d=2" rel="nofollow - Gastly Games website is bring back memories ... kiss-chase and knicker-chase ("Infants school "game" where the participants chase the girls and try to pull down their skirts so you could see their knickers. But nobody ever knew WHY") must have lost their appeal at an all boys school, fortunately I was co-ed all my school life Wink
 

That Wembley game (Which we called FA cup) is not the game he is referring to but the game I described. I remember "Catch and kiss" at school. Mixed sex also.
 
The game I was describing is called 'Green Arses' on the Ghastly Games site.  But this rings no bells with me.  Sounds more Public School name to me.  Kiss Chase was occasionally played at my Primary School but British Bulldog was more popular even mixed sex BB.
 
 


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 12:55
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Of course my favorite sport to watch and play is Football (I can't stand that silly name soccer).



Soccer is a totally legitimate word for the game of Association Football.

Nobody in the whole world except in USA (So they not collision with their Football) or Canada calls it soccer OFFICIALLY....Puerto Rico has the Football Federation, but they call their tournament Soccer league, already FIFA has warned them.

The name is FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION, soccer is nothing, just an invention of USA to avoid collision with their Football

The term Football is used in 

1.- Latin America
2.- Europe (Except Italy where it's called Calcio)
3.- Asia
4.- Africa (Except Southt Africa that uses soccer  but not officially and Football  Association officially)
5.- Caribbean countries
6.- Oceania : Australia uses Soccer but not officially, their league is called FOOTBALL LEAGUE New Zealad used Soccer but considered the name inappropriate an started to call it Football in 2006 and called Rugby as Footy

Really the only two countries that use Soccer officially are USA and Canada.

I still consider it invalid

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

What I read is that the word soccer comes from 19th century England, so that should settle it.

[Well... It was a wise man on an internet forum saying this, it must be right. He seemed very knowledgeable on the issue.]

It was used casually to differentiate it from the Rugby and Gaelic Football league, but officially and uinofficially it's called Football.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 13:29
The word Soccer is indeed an old English invention, along with Rugger (Rugby), Footer (Football), Brekkers (Breakfast), Shampers (Champagne), Twickers (Twickenham), Beckers (David Beckham)... and with all those words, it is associated with snooty public school boys and Oxbridge hooray-henrys, hence not much liked by "ordinary" Englishmen.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 13:56
is the word soccer a cockney slang word or just a slang word??

edit: i read the last thing you wrote, oxbridge words, accademics making slang words or shartedged words for long complicated words


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 15:38
Ivan

Here is an example of a British football programme

http://www.socceram.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.socceram.com/


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 15:40
No.   I also believe it is a shartedged word.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 15:42
Fodbold fo shizzle...

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 15:45
fotball for the word, i also like kurvball, but it is rarely shown on Norse television, but i love playing some street basket :), 

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 15:47
Street basket? Is that shopping?

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 15:50
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Street basket? Is that shopping?


It's slang for one those people that walk around naked in the big cities during the winter and say stuff like: I was originally raised on Pluto.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 16:01
Street basket

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2053/2395980331_72cdc59e3f.jpg

instead of 5, you got 3 players, half the playing field, (one basket), more rougher and physical, on concrete fields so you need good sneekers and sun lotion

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 16:12
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Ivan this is an example of a British football programme

http://www.socceram.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.socceram.com/

Well, read my post said officially 

1.- This is the official site of Football Association in the UK

http://www.thefa.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.thefa.com/

2.- This is the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/premier-league/" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/premier-league/

3.- The same Sky Sport (you posted) seccion about Football is:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/" rel="nofollow - http://www1.skysports.com/football/

5.- This is the description of the Premiere League:

Quote

The Premier League is the organising body of the Barclays Premier League with responsibility for the competition, its Rule Book and the centralised broadcast and other commercial rights.

However, we do not operate in isolation, instead we work proactively and constructively with our Member Clubs and the other football authorities to improve the quality of football both in England and across the world. Here is who we work with:

The Member Clubs of the Premier League

The Premier League is a private company wholly owned by its 20 Member Clubs who make up the League at any one time. Each individual club is independent: working within the rules of football, as defined by the Premier League, The FA, Uefa and Fifa as well being subject to English and European law.


http://www.premierleague.com/content/premierleague/en-gb/about/who-we-are.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.premierleague.com/content/premierleague/en-gb/about/who-we-are.html

Dean also mentioned something.:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

The word Soccer is indeed an old English invention, along with Rugger (Rugby), Footer (Football), Brekkers (Breakfast), Shampers (Champagne), Twickers (Twickenham), Beckers (David Beckham)... and with all those words, it is associated with snooty public school boys and Oxbridge hooray-henrys, hence not much liked by "ordinary" Englishmen.


Iván


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 17:05

Ermm 



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 19 2012 at 17:37
A day in court with Ivan. Evidence galore and quotes up the wazoo

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 05:27
I'm  insensitive.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 05:38
Is this really necessary? 

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 05:39
I'm a dickhead

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 05:42
Oh Bondage, up yours!

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 05:54

*sigh*



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 06:04


Will you delete all those posts above please Dean. The ones I edited and the hidden one?


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2012 at 06:12
But despite  Ivan's protests and dislike of the word. I restate..Soccer is a totally legitimate word outside the US

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