Atheism won, but feel free to debate anyway
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Topic: Atheism won, but feel free to debate anyway
Posted By: JJLehto
Subject: Atheism won, but feel free to debate anyway
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 20:53
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Seriously, everyone vote because this is be all end all...the results will decide for the rest of mankind: the best religion. As well as ranking all the others! This also means we can end all other PA threads on the topic, since it will have been settled. There is no choice for "other" because it'd be endless debate. So if your particular belief is not on here, well sorry. You don't count. OK OK these are not all religions, but you get the point... If you want me to specify what's the best "spiritual belief/sect/world view or lack thereof" So no bickering over that crap, just which is better.  Edit: Sheesh, atheists/agnostics...those are listed here just for the sake of convenience. OK? That's not the point anyway, it's about which is better. GOGOGO! EDIT: PA has decided. Atheism wins. We can now stop all the bickering and usher in world peace. Who wants to be the one to tell the Middle East?  If anyone isn't happy well too bad, it was up to you guys... |
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 20:57
Murrayism
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 21:24
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I chose Jedi though it's a fictitious religion, Greek Mythology pretty cool too-- but I tend to believe the Universe is god, man. |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 21:53
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I am genuinely horrified that you do not have Pastafarianism, the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. And where the hell is Hellenism?
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 21:55
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I voted, but I regret it. As long as the religion in question is based on love and not hate, then I'm all for it. ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 21:56
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And where's the Church of Subgenius ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 21:56
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None are based on love or hate. They are all based on control. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 22:08
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National Communo Socialism. Mixed with Mayorism. ------------- 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 22:23
| other - God is magnetic monopoles |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 01 2012 at 23:05
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Deism is not really a religion, but still. Then Jainism, then who cares because they're all pretty bad in their own way. Also, why did you include atheism and agnosticism? Why so troll? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 01:14
| Holy s$%t, that's a lot of religions. Don't know much about them. I certainly would not vote for Christianity. It's too liberal. And I wonder how fundamentalists would interpret bits of The Bible. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 02:53
I said in the damn OP no complaining over that! That I was lumping it all under "religion" (also that some of these are not religions) why you so bad at english? I edited it...it's just to make it easier. |
stonebeard wrote:Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 02:57
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 03:02
I am not familiar with that one. As I said if it's not listed it can't be accepted but please tell me about the religion of lock. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 03:07
I have locked out any religion, even 'the religion of lock', 'lockism', 'lockerbie', 'holy deadlock' or whatever name is given to it.
One more remark: religion is easily confused with faith, which is a different thing.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 03:08
Well, I had to try and include as many as possible. As well as some other religions that are kept down by the man like Church of Fripp and negative theism. Why is it so "crazy" that there are actually -7 gods?  |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 03:11
Fair enough, but remember this decides it...forever. So if you don't vote can't complain when a true, global religion/belief/view is decided on  Because it will be forever and absolute. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 03:12
I won't complain because I know that when this comes, it will be temporary and I wait for what comes after  .-------------
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 03:15
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Oh no. This is it. The debate to settle it all...it may get messy but once it's decided here on PA the world shall conform. I am a little upset I forgot Satanism. Edit: Added. Sorry Taoism, you no longer exist. |
Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 11:14
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There are too few religions to choose from there. How come you didn't even give vodun as an alternative? And how does one vote for the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which is as much a religion as i.e. christianity? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/osmotapioraihala/sets" rel="nofollow - Composer - Click to listen to my works! |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 11:41
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 11:52
^
Could I think of a better religion
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:09
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:09
WTF?
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:14
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Clearly math.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:16
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Brahmanism is clearly the best, but my personal favourite is Gnosticism. But "there is no religion higher than the Truth."  |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:19
Why clearly?
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:20
 ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:21
------------- What? |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:32
And it actually describes the universe accurately. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 12:32
Because I decreed it that's why. Also I guess you just voted for it |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:07
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HEAVY-METAL! Because, yes, HEAVY-METAL is a religion. And if you ask me why I write HEAVY-METAL in capitals, it's because I'm fond of ham (see TVTropes). |
Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:14
No, I didn't. I cannot tell one religion is better than the other more than I could say 2+5 is more than 3+4. Voting for some religion ahead of something else is illogical. How could one religion be better than some other - enlighten, please..! ------------- http://soundcloud.com/osmotapioraihala/sets" rel="nofollow - Composer - Click to listen to my works! |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:16
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Yall have really goofed anyway. Christianity is currently winning. Is that how you guys want this to end? Also I played along (though maybe it wasn't playing) please OT....tell me you're not being sincere? I fear more than a few answers in this thread have been sincere, and that's scary. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:27
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If you can tell me which religion first extolled the virtues of real ale, then that one gets my vote. Ahhhhhh................beer ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:35
Easy. I like one more than the other. So there you go. It's called subjectivity. Welcome to it. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:40
Well then. Pastafarianism has since split into two distinct factions: Marinara Pastafarianism and Alfredo Pastafarianism. Both should be fairly represented. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:52
Ahhhhhh................CAMRAism  ------------- What? |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 13:55
We could be moving soon, to a village which has two pubs in the CAMRA Good Beer Guide. HAPPY days! ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 14:03
| Non-bibical Christianity because I don't want to associate myself with the Inquisition, Crusades, and the control of millions upon millions. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 14:11
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^I don't think the Inquisition or the Crusades appear in the bible.
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 14:23
| ^Haha- well, the Bible was used to fuel those things. Therefore, I cannot completely trust it. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 14:24
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Greek Mythology has always made the most sense to me. ------------- 
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 15:00
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Sorry for choosing "other", but this religion is the best: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Decision" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Decision ------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 16:21
A toss up between XTC's The Church Of Women, and Secular Humanism.  Also, there is this: Marc Perkel's Church http://www.churchofreality.org/" rel="nofollow"> 
If
it's
Real - we believe
in it!Click on the logo between the fishes. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 17:57
So, using math and math only, you can actually find out how to prevent people from getting into hot and pointless debates, right? What about science (in general) ? If you had to choose between science and just math (like what's Christianity to Eastern Orthodox), which (ahem) religion would you pick?
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 18:04
What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss? |
Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 18:22
People say that Catcher in the Rye helped fuel John Lennon's murder. In reality, its just whiny and meandering. I think I would've liked it more if it HAD been as subversive and powerful as to truly influence the assassination of someone I admire. I think Charlie Manson once claimed that his inspiration was The Beatles' song Helter Skelter. I could be wrong, but hey! Contriving war from the bible is easy, but it'd be just as easy as using Green Eggs and Ham to to support nuclear mass-murder in another society. The Cat in the Hat supports chaos, rage, dissonance, disobeying authority and other such nonsense. Hey - 'Chaos, Rage, Dissonance, Disobeying Authority, and Other Such Nonsense, Dr. Seuss' biography. Now available in hardback for 19.99'. By Lester Bangs' twin brother.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 18:45
I always thought it was a bit egotistical to have one god taking care of anything myself. Also, Poseidon |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:53
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Shintoism has got it going on. All in the pants too. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:35
My virginity. It wasn’t worth much anyway. ------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:44
Yes it was. I'm pretty sure virgins are most expensive at the brothels.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:44
Me personally? I enjoy math more. Both are pretty worthless without the other part. I mean they're essentially the same thing. I would take math. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:38
I was in that same bet, except I won...I gained a second virginity. That was a pain in the ass. Glad the atheists seem to have made a comeback, I thought Christianity was gunna win and how bland would that have been? |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:51
| JJL: You can probably add people choosing Jedi, Satanism, 42 etc to the atheist (or at least agnostic) pile, in which case Christianity falls way back. |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 03 2012 at 18:59
| Your forgetting New Age religion....every religion ever conceived and conceivable is one big non-contradictory religion, Buddah groovin with Jehovah, cooling it with the Mother Goddess, while they listen to the skat of Shiva and the beat boxing of Baal. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 00:58
| I believe I did not state my answer: atheism. I just don't have a reason to believe in any god or God whatsoever. |
Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 01:37
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atheism
(in spite of formal qualification, that atheism is not religion) |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 01:38
Well no I just ran out of slots. Need to make some necessary cuts. Also I think I had new age but dropped it for Satanism  I consider myself extreme agnostic. You can bet your ass I am extremely passionate about my indecisiveness! |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:41
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:50
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Progism -------------   
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:56
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Evolverarianism.
It's the tithe, man. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 08:59
| New question: What is the breast religion? |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 09:02
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Now that will lead to a pointed discussion. -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 09:21
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Well you could also end up with two points of view -------------
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 09:24
| Both sides will end up going tit for tat by the time we're done discussing it. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 10:02
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Ok, I think that we milked that joke for all that it was worth. -------------
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 11:57
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^Haha- I just realized you said 'milk'
Don't be such a boob. There are a lot more things we could say.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:04
Oh yes. I believe Dawkins spoke of "weak" and "strong" atheism. Well I am a strong agnostic, I'm not wishy washy and all that crap, but 100% sure I am not sure  |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 13:12
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i beleeve in the quantmetaphysical universe o
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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 14:02
Voted atheism, but I have one demi-god: Robbie Fowler - a football player who played for Liverpool FC in the 90's and 00's.  -------------  
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 15:22
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BTW Satanism is every other religion apart from your own
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 16:13
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As "someone else" said, religions and believes are different things, I don't fancy religions but I can respect that people have believes (or at least some sort of them), although in practice it's no big surprise that many believes lead to religions, so al in all it ges a bit messy. Weird that nobody had voted for agnosticism, I'm the one who did.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 16:15
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I didn't vote for it because I voted for Greek Mythology. JJ asked for the best religion, and I think that Greek Mythology is the best religion. -------------
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 16:28
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And seriously people...I think it's obvious (and stated) that I put belief/world view/ lack thereof all under one umbrella... My posts already ramble enough I can't specify every damn thing! I really am upset by the atheism votes, sooo mainstream PA. It's cool to be atheist. The lack of 42, Church of Fripp, and Scientology really disappoint me :( |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 16:43
It was going okay until some numpty waved a red rag:
No self-disrespecting amathiest is going to stand by and let the chrispyones win anything. ------------- What? |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 16:47
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Well it's a tough one Dean. I of course don't want the Christians to win (they've had enough amirite?) but Atheism has the most? its the mainstream "anti" vote. Though I did provoke it.... I guess I now hate my creation, this is what God feels like when he looks at humanity :O :O I thought for sure 42 would be soaring (I really did). |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 17:03
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Was worse than that Brian - you are an interventionist creator who meddled and interfered with the development of your creation . The one thing you learn by reading the script in advance... these things never end well. ------------- What? |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 17:03
Satanism, I choose you. ------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 17:08
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If only you would have included ELPism you would have got a different picture (at an exhibition ).
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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 17:44
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The bestest religion of all is Fairbankisanism, which embraces that Roy Fairbank is the son of Jesus, with the power of Jesus squared (as Jesus had the power of God times 2). I'm so powerful and holy that I choose to be a completely mediocre mortal atheist, because my power is so great. My secret power is so secret, that not only Romans would confuse me for a run-of-the-mill troublemaker, but they wouldn't even confuse for that, they wouldn't even feel threatened. Great Religion. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: May 04 2012 at 18:28
Well Im clearly a bad god. Also scripture? pffft I never read that I told a few people be good to each other, have lots of sex and drink. IDK how they mucked it up so bad |
Posted By: Codera the Great
Date Posted: July 02 2012 at 03:18
| Out of all of these, definitely atheism. |
Posted By: lmaorofllollmao
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 14:18
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Why exactly did you make this topic? Its all just going to end up in debate. :/ ------------- EATTTT YOUURRR BEEEEEETTTSSSSS!!!!! 
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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 14:56
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There are actually two types of Satanism, theistic Satanism and Laveyan (or non-theistic) Satanism. Both are kind of scary, but the theistic kind is scarier. A little disturbing that it has two votes. I'm gonna have to go with Jedi. Just because it's cool. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 15:01
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The basic problem here is that none is not an option. However, unfortunately according to the laws of quantum religion, if none exists then something will have to spontaneously appear. I'd vote for Reality, but that's not an option. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 16:41
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Any western religion. I feel more comfortable surrounded by those types of religions. -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 16:53
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I'm not comfortable being surrounded by religion at all. If ever there was statement that sums things up for me in the matters of life the universe and everything, that is it.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 17:37
Good, we like debates.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 22:48
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I don't care to worship anything. What kind of Supreme Being needs worship? Not too supreme if it needs ego-stroking. Since "nothing" was not an option, I voted atheism, but that is not a religion. Buddhism isn't bad as a practice either. Never met a Buddhist who would bomb a church or mosque or eat someone's face beneath a freeway overpass. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 03 2012 at 23:51
What religion is that?
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 00:01
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Quasi-Christianity ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 00:42
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 03:01
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If there's a church of Fripp than I'm the priest. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Grape_Jam
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 03:17
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I think Agnosticism, because in the end, none of us really knows whether God exists or not, so we might as well not bother ourselves with it.
From the actual religions, though, I don't really know. I'd have to find out more about each one of them before I can decide. ------------- My smile is stuck, I cannot go back to your Frownland. |
Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 03:19
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I think that your frippism cannot to be proper religion because Fripp exists! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 03:36
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Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 04:19
For in very deed, as the Fripp guitarist, composer and record producer liveth, which hath kept me back from hurting thee, except thou hadst hasted and come to meet me, surely there had not been left unto prog-rockers by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall. It is not some Truth, but normally truth. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 04:25
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Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: July 04 2012 at 04:27
Oh, no no no., Dean. No! That is what I say, not what they all say!!! |