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Topic: What Class Are You?
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Subject: What Class Are You?
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 17:44
Divide and Conquer ... I MEAN.... enjoy this poll.

EDIT: I suppose I should disclose myself. I come from a lower middle class family, as they say, and have worked in lower middle class / impoverishing  jobs while attending lower middle class schools (public high school, community college, then state university...)

I'm pretty happy about where I am, but I'm aiming for a tad higher, not too ambitious though in terms of income or lifestyle (I just want to be halfway to secure), but I want to be a professional in my aimed at field (history), which I suppose is somewhat ambitious.



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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 17:51
After three years of poverty, we have happily rejoined the ranks of the illustrious lower-middle class.  Approve

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 18:03
I was last option all my life, but recently upgraded one option above. 


Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 18:49
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I was last option all my life, but recently upgraded one option above. 


Congratulations on gaining some ground in this economy. My family was relatively lower middle class when I was growing up. Since the recession began, its kept us on the edge of being impoverished, i.e. losing everything. Like they say, it really is "living paycheck to paycheck." I think the only difference between the lower middle class, a term I disagree with (but that's another story), and the so called "impoverished" 20% of the population, is that one is in the process of becoming more impoverished and the other has hit rock bottom.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 19:19
Upper-Middle i guess.

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 19:24
These categories are vague and play into how nearly everyone in America sees themselves a "middle class".

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 19:27
I have $600.


Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 19:35
According to wiki, upper middle class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_the_United_States

That's for the overall US though.
I live in a f**king expensive county...well everything in NJ is f**king expensive
So for my area I am pretty much middle middle.


Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 19:49
Small Business Owner, although I feel at least a class or two lower than that's been grouped with some of the time.


Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 20:44
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

These categories are vague and play into how nearly everyone in America sees themselves a "middle class".


Yes they are vague, so I tried to double up on the two main lines of terminology, the American one (middle class is most of population), and the old one (working class, middle class, upper class).

I favor the old method of recognizing class by ownership of productive property, which makes society look like a pyramid with a very small cap. But that would be slightly confusing given current conventions. In fact It is more popular today among serious people to do something like divide the population's income levels by 5.

Top 20%
Second To Top 20%
Middle 20%
Second to Last 20%
Last 20%

"Quintiles" I believe, it got a funny mention on the Simpsons in 2008.

I find this last method is really indefinite, and lacks descriptive, common sense character. So what results here is an unholy compromise with the common parlance favored and is very vague indeed.




Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 22:28
My family could be called regular old middle class I suppose.

As a graduating 20-something, like 90% of my demographic, I am poor and have a lot of student loan debt for a degree that is de-valuing at a remarkably evil rate. Income doesn't matter quite as much when the Boomers mortgaged off our future and got fat, sick, dumb, war-mongering, and greedy with the funding.


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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 22:30
You could be a small business owner and still be lower class.
ie. owner/operators 


Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 22:35
True point Drew. My household is solid middle/upper middle but I personally am poor as hell thanks to a life choice of bumming and some student loans 


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 05:07
Middle class (currently looking for a job as archivist) - with a complex background: my mother had been a social worker until her retirement last year, while my father had been working in construction as both a professional trainer and a foreman for the last 15 years.
But I have some difficulties to remember his whole career: he even had been a waiter in London in the early 70's!


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 05:17
I didn't realise they had a class system in the States too. Here you are born into it. So technically I am born working class, but I feel middle class. I defintely live in a middle class home. I don't talk about tits and football all the time. So not typical working class that has risen slightly. 

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 05:33
Born working class, but now, owning my own home, plus the fact my wife & I both have cars, I guess that makes me upper working/lower middle class, I guess.

Arbitrary differences in any case - I know people considerably better off than me who I still manage to look down on ... begs the question, is class a matter of possessions/status or outlook?

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 05:36
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Born working class, but now, owning my own home, plus the fact my wife & I both have cars, I guess that makes me upper working/lower middle class, I guess.

Arbitrary differences in any case - I know people considerably better off than me who I still manage to look down on ... begs the question, is class a matter of possessions/status or outlook?

Outlook.

Just think of some lowlife scumbag winning the lottery, buying a huge house, a ferrari etc. Doesn't change the person if he behaves the same.


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 05:59
I'm on salary, making decent figures, capable of keeping the bills paid, not starving.  I guess that makes me middle class.  That might change if I had a family to support.....




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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 06:01
Also, does it make me middle class to know the title of this thread should be "Which class are you"?

Or does that just make me a pedant?

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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 06:52
I'm a 4th edition Rogue.

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 06:58
Working class, except that I'm not working.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 07:02
I consider myself classless, but Middle Class suits me best, I think. I am on salary, spending my working days playing the part of the domestic pig being surrounded by small business owners and a part-time office manager..

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 08:13
I don't really think much about what class I'm in, but I am fairly comfortable financially, and I'm very grateful for that.  10-15 years ago, I was a wreck.


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 10:42
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I don't really think much about what class I'm in, but I am fairly comfortable financially, and I'm very grateful for that.  10-15 years ago, I was a wreck.


Definitely with you on that - been there, seen it, done it, got the bad memories.

There but for the grace of the Gods, etc...

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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 11:02
I have no class
*belches and scratches ass*


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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 15:57
I don't accept your class stratification system.  I prefer Marx's analysis of class, which broadly speaking states that you are either a member of the ruling class (bourgeoisie) or you are a wage slave (proletariat).  I do not own the means of production and I am not a capitalist.  I have to work for a wage (I am a teacher) so therefore I am proletariat (or working class).  

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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 16:45
Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

I don't accept your class stratification system.  I prefer Marx's analysis of class, which broadly speaking states that you are either a member of the ruling class (bourgeoisie) or you are a wage slave (proletariat).  I do not own the means of production and I am not a capitalist.  I have to work for a wage (I am a teacher) so therefore I am proletariat (or working class).  


So what would you call a person who owns a business that hires two people?


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 17:00

^ ATM



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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 17:02
"Well I'm ever upper-class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
And I always fill my ballroom
The event is never small
The social pages say I've got
The biggest balls of all"

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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 18:12
Middle-class. Oscillating from the edge of poverty to the upper middle class during my life.




Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 28 2012 at 18:24
Class of 97 

Oh, wait.  I'm not sure. Please define boundaries and requirements. I might be upper higher class if we consider that most of my possesions are useless items that are mostly for leisure activities like a gigantic cd collection that few actual rich guys have. But I'll be quite low class if we check my bank account. Which is strongly related to my previous point. 




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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 03:10
Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

I don't accept your class stratification system.  I prefer Marx's analysis of class, which broadly speaking states that you are either a member of the ruling class (bourgeoisie) or you are a wage slave (proletariat).  I do not own the means of production and I am not a capitalist.  I have to work for a wage (I am a teacher) so therefore I am proletariat (or working class).  


In case you haven't read the newspapers: Marx is dead.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 06:09
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:


Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

I don't accept your class stratification system.  I prefer Marx's analysis of class, which broadly speaking states that you are either a member of the ruling class (bourgeoisie) or you are a wage slave (proletariat).  I do not own the means of production and I am not a capitalist.  I have to work for a wage (I am a teacher) so therefore I am proletariat (or working class).  
In case you haven't read the newspapers: Marx is dead.


And...?

Darwin is dead but I still believe in evolution.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 06:15
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Class of 97 

Oh, wait.  I'm not sure. Please define boundaries and requirements. I might be upper higher class if we consider that most of my possesions are useless items that are mostly for leisure activities like a gigantic cd collection that few actual rich guys have. But I'll be quite low class if we check my bank account. Which is strongly related to my previous point. 


If non-essential possessions are the measure of a man, then class is inversely proportional to the size of flat-screen TV you own.

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 07:28
Lower Middle Class / Working Class, I guess.
 
We don't have classes where I live, but I'm not exactly rich.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 07:33
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

If non-essential possessions are the measure of a man, then class is inversely proportional to the size of flat-screen TV you own.
Oh, in that case I'm a Large Business OwnerWink

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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 07:35
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Lower Middle Class / Working Class, I guess.
 
We don't have classes where I live, but I'm not exactly rich.


I know we in the Nordic countries put some emphasis on equality, but still...Norway has done it properly! Shocked


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 07:51
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Lower Middle Class / Working Class, I guess.
 
We don't have classes where I live, but I'm not exactly rich.


I know we in the Nordic countries put some emphasis on equality, but still...Norway has done it properly! Shocked
Big smileYou know what I mean. We don't have defined classes in the Nordic countries, do we?
 
 
Of course we have people who are richer than others, but how much money you have doesn't divide the people to that extent as I think it does in other countries (but I'm only guessing here, I don't presume to know how this affects the day-to-day lives of people in other countries).

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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 07:55
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Lower Middle Class / Working Class, I guess.
 
We don't have classes where I live, but I'm not exactly rich.


I know we in the Nordic countries put some emphasis on equality, but still...Norway has done it properly! Shocked
Big smileYou know what I mean. We don't have defined classes in the Nordic countries, do we?
 
 
Of course we have people who are richer than others, but how much money you have doesn't divide the people to that extent as I think it does in other countries (but I'm only guessing here, I don't presume to know how this affects the day-to-day lives of people in other countries).


I figured that's what you meant. Just being an ass LOL.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 08:04
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Just being an ass LOL.
And you're doing a hell of a job at itBig smile

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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 08:06
Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Lower Middle Class / Working Class, I guess.
 
We don't have classes where I live, but I'm not exactly rich.


I know we in the Nordic countries put some emphasis on equality, but still...Norway has done it properly! Shocked
Big smileYou know what I mean. We don't have defined classes in the Nordic countries, do we?
 
 
Of course we have people who are richer than others, but how much money you have doesn't divide the people to that extent as I think it does in other countries (but I'm only guessing here, I don't presume to know how this affects the day-to-day lives of people in other countries).


I figured that's what you meant. Just being an ass LOL.
And you're doing a hell of a job at itBig smile


Why, thank you, kind Sir!


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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 08:14
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I didn't realise they had a class system in the States too. 
 
I'm not sure we do, or at least in the U.S. I think class is more a reflection of education and social maturity than one of lineage and wealth.  I know a whole lot of poor people who are more educated, intelligent and have far more couth than many hyper-wealthy people such as athletes, celebrities and people who inherited their money rather than earned it.
 
BTW, I would put myself in the 'pulled myself up by the bootstraps' category - I lived in public housing (HUD) as a child and can remember standing in line with my mother for government cheese and milk and shopping at Goodwill and the Salvation Army.  But thanks to a strong family work ethic, some encouraging teachers and friends, and a small amount of financial aid from Uncle Sam I now have several college degrees and a well-compensated professional career.  In terms of class, I would say I now know it's best to cover one's mouth while belching, and preferably to do it discreetly and outside the earshot of others.
 
 


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 10:57
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Class of 97 

Oh, wait.  I'm not sure. Please define boundaries and requirements. I might be upper higher class if we consider that most of my possesions are useless items that are mostly for leisure activities like a gigantic cd collection that few actual rich guys have. But I'll be quite low class if we check my bank account. Which is strongly related to my previous point. 


If non-essential possessions are the measure of a man, then class is inversely proportional to the size of flat-screen TV you own.
Class is knowing when to turn the damn tv off when there are visitors in your house Tongue

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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 11:21
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I was last option all my life, but recently upgraded one option above. 
You leveled up to the prestige class of bourgeoisie :P


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 11:27
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Class is knowing when to turn the damn tv off when there are visitors in your house Tongue




Good test, sir!

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 12:33
I own the Chase-Manhattan Bank but I work as a street busker for tax reasons.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 18:12
Awesome class. Cool

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: April 16 2012 at 13:37
id say upper middle class. Like, a good paying IT guy's family.



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