How Disruptive is Trolling To You?
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Topic: How Disruptive is Trolling To You?
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Subject: How Disruptive is Trolling To You?
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:45
I post this after reading the grim wikipedia entry on trolling, which identifies it as a dangerous anti-social activity that borders on criminality, and is buttressed by quotes that the internet needs to be policed.
I would get stupid from it, or even "uninhibited," and vulgar, but it is not particularly damaging to me, and I think many people on sites like ESPN and news sites read the comments just for the ridiculous trolling, which is often entertaining. On a site like this it is more disruptive, but a kind of perversion?
What does the forum think?
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:51
Minor or occasional issue. Luckily, I do not encounter trolling much; only when I watch certain PF videos on YouTube.
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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 22:59
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Minor or occasional issue. Luckily, I do not encounter trolling much; only when I watch certain PF videos on YouTube. |
Youtube is indeed not a good place for human communication in general. There is such a diversity of people of all ages, they are not committed to making a legitimate comment on any one of those temporary pages, so you get fragments of fragments, usually trollish. I've noticed however that even serious websites like the world news section of reuters for example tends to have equal weight in troll posts as in genuine posts. So I agree with wikipedia that it is a pervasive phenomenon.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 23:27
RoyFairbank wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Minor or occasional issue. Luckily, I do not encounter trolling much; only when I watch certain PF videos on YouTube. |
Youtube is indeed not a good place for human communication in general. There is such a diversity of people of all ages, they are not committed to making a legitimate comment on any one of those temporary pages, so you get fragments of fragments, usually trollish. I've noticed however that even serious websites like the world news section of reuters for example tends to have equal weight in troll posts as in genuine posts. So I agree with wikipedia that it is a pervasive phenomenon.
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World news section of Reuters has trolling posts? ... Oy.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 23:38
What's the big deal.
Yes, I am trying to recover from trolling addiction but really, it's a god damn joke and most trolling makes fun of itself. Like, painfully obvious and people just go along with it. If you don't get it or are too sensitive just go away! It just requires clicking an X in the corner!
Not to be confused with actual cyber bullying or stuff like that. That's not cool.
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: March 20 2012 at 23:55
I think trolling can be pretty funny if it's done well. It can be annoying but that's usually only if you take the bait and get sucked in.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 00:20
I generally find it more annoying and dumb than funny.
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 00:43
i think the word has an old-norse relation, but it i haz nothing to do with Trolls but with the fishing techniqies used when you set out bait, for fish and come back laiter to pull in the fish = trolling
Trolling is a method of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing" rel="nofollow - fishing where one or more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_line" rel="nofollow - fishing lines , baited with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_lure" rel="nofollow - lures or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_fish" rel="nofollow - bait fish ,
are drawn through the water. This may be behind a moving boat, or by
slowly winding the line in when fishing from a static position, or even
sweeping the line from side-to-side, e.g. when fishing from a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jetty" rel="nofollow - jetty . Trolling is used to catch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagic_fish" rel="nofollow - pelagic fish such as salmon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackerel" rel="nofollow - mackerel and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingfish" rel="nofollow - kingfish .
Trolling can be phonetically confused with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trawling" rel="nofollow - trawling , a different method of fishing where a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishing_net" rel="nofollow - net (trawl) is drawn through the water instead of lines. Trolling is used both for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_fishing" rel="nofollow - recreational and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_fishing" rel="nofollow - commercial fishing whereas trawling is used mainly for commercial fishing. A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll" rel="nofollow - troll is a mythological creature, related to elves, dwarves, or monsters. The verb troll originates from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_French" rel="nofollow - Old French troller, a hunting term. The noun troll comes from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse" rel="nofollow - Old Norse word for a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll" rel="nofollow - mythological monster . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29#cite_note-Online_Etymology_Dictionary-6" rel="nofollow - [7]
In modern English usage, the verb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_%28fishing%29" rel="nofollow - troll is a fishing technique of slowly dragging a lure or baited hook from a moving boat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29#cite_note-merriam-webster-7" rel="nofollow - [8] The word evokes the trolls of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_folklore" rel="nofollow - Scandinavian folklore and children's tales, where they are often creatures bent on mischief and wickedness.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 00:54
I actually lived under a bridge at one point.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 02:50
I find a****les much more annoying. Trolls are usually easily ignorable.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 03:20
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 03:43
I've learned this: when reading something a news website... When watching a video online... When reading a webcomic... Never... Listen me well... NEVER ever read the comments! It's not only that the trolls are annoying most of the time and that most of them seem to be real morons, it's also that reading their insane and inane rantings (ratings?) leave a taste of bile in the mouth.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 04:57
Other.
I don't give a sh!t.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 05:21
Blacksword wrote:
Other.
I don't give a sh!t. |
Other option:
- I'm a troll, myself
but in the poll, I chose vaguely funny, but ultimately, like Andy, I don't care much.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 05:34
Sometimes kind of funny, sometimes slightly irritant, always a minor issue.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 06:10
"Irritant" mostly, but then again, if I think it's funny or somehow subversive (e.g. knocking people out of their complacency and making them think about what they do for a change), then I don't really think of it as trolling anyway. In general, the trolling I've seen is pretty asinine and just begging for attention, which is pretty pathetic to watch.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 06:19
RoyFairbank wrote:
I post this after reading the grim wikipedia entry on trolling, which identifies it as a dangerous anti-social activity that borders on criminality, and is buttressed by quotes that the internet needs to be policed.
I would get stupid from it, or even "uninhibited," and vulgar, but it is not particularly damaging to me, and I think many people on sites like ESPN and news sites read the comments just for the ridiculous trolling, which is often entertaining. On a site like this it is more disruptive, but a kind of perversion?
What does the forum think?
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You didn't provide a Wiki link so I went to look it up. The one thing I didn't find was a definition applicable to the internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28research_station%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (research station) , a Norwegian Antarctic research station on Queen Maud Land
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28album%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (album) , a 2005 album by Norwegian folk metal band Lumsk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28gay_slang%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (gay slang) , a slang term for gay men who wander about looking for sexual partners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28automobile%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (automobile) , a Norwegian car manufacturer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Troll" rel="nofollow - Karl Troll (1865-1954), Austrian architect etc. Oh wait, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (Internet) ,
an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to
disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through
provocative messages.
Ignoring the person will generally derail them.
There is something about being able to be anonymous that does encourages people to behave that way. I myself have annoyed a few people on this site, but I am not hiding behind a mask.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 06:28
There's a clear difference between 1 - deliberately thought provoking polemic 2 - trolling
One is designed to encourage people to question their own assumptions and the other is just social brinkmanship of the worst kind
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:32
Henry Plainview wrote:
I generally find it more annoying and dumb than funny. |
I'm with Henry on this one - trolls are usually your common or garden keyboard heroes, frantically trying to attract attention, shouting 'look at me, look at me', whilst waving their arms to prevent drowning in a sea of their own inadequacy.
As a forum moderator, they can be a thorn in the side occasionally, but once identified, deleted with extreme prejudice.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:36
The problem is that trolling and internet bullying and intimidation have become to mean the same thing.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:39
Jim Garten wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
I generally find it more annoying and dumb than funny. |
I'm with Henry on this one - trolls are usually your common or garden keyboard heroes, frantically trying to attract attention, shouting 'look at me, look at me', whilst waving their arms to prevent drowning in a sea of their own inadequacy.
As a forum moderator, they can be a thorn in the side occasionally, but once identified, deleted with extreme prejudice. |
Well yes, from a moderators perspective, I can see why they may be a problem.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:43
Not a problem as such, Andy, more an occasional irritation; an e-mosquito, if you will... causes irritation, but nothing a good slap won't get rid of.
Snow Dog wrote:
The problem is that trolling and internet bullying and intimidation have become to mean the same thing. |
That is the common perception, yes - thing is, as we know, they are two very different things, neither of which we ever have or ever will tolerate here.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:44
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:48
Jim Garten wrote:
Not a problem as such, Andy, more an occasional irritation; an e-mosquito, if you will... causes irritation, but nothing a good slap won't get rid of.
Snow Dog wrote:
The problem is that trolling and internet bullying and intimidation have become to mean the same thing. |
That is the common perception, yes - thing is, as we know, they are two very different things, neither of which we ever have or ever will tolerate here. |
This common perception will probably become the new meaning, Jim. Especially as it is now being discussed by the media.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:52
The old timers around here will remember KE9. Now, that was a troll, and also an 'internet bully' I believe he actually sent threatening PM's to other users, who were critical of ELP!
Do we have any of his posts cached anywhere? I'd love to read them again. I thought he was quite funny, until I decided he was actually potentially dangerous..
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Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 07:58
Jim Garten wrote:
Not a problem as such, Andy, more an occasional irritation; an e-mosquito, if you will... causes irritation, but nothing a good slap won't get rid of.
Snow Dog wrote:
The problem is that trolling and internet bullying and intimidation have become to mean the same thing. |
That is the common perception, yes - thing is, as we know, they are two very different things, neither of which we ever have or ever will tolerate here. |
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 08:00
The really dangerous ones are those who manage to gather a coterie of admirers/followers, despite their forum abuse; there was one here many years ago, but that member was dispatched to the wastes as soon as it became apparent how unpleasant an individual they were.
Blacksword wrote:
The old timers around here will remember KE9. Now, that was a troll, and also an 'internet bully' |
Now there's a name from the past I'd forgotten...
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 08:34
Slartibartfast wrote:
RoyFairbank wrote:
I post this after reading the grim wikipedia entry on trolling, which identifies it as a dangerous anti-social activity that borders on criminality, and is buttressed by quotes that the internet needs to be policed.
I would get stupid from it, or even "uninhibited," and vulgar, but it is not particularly damaging to me, and I think many people on sites like ESPN and news sites read the comments just for the ridiculous trolling, which is often entertaining. On a site like this it is more disruptive, but a kind of perversion?
What does the forum think?
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You didn't provide a Wiki link so I went to look it up. The one thing I didn't find was a definition applicable to the internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28research_station%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (research station) , a Norwegian Antarctic research station on Queen Maud Land
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28album%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (album) , a 2005 album by Norwegian folk metal band Lumsk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28gay_slang%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (gay slang) , a slang term for gay men who wander about looking for sexual partners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28automobile%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (automobile) , a Norwegian car manufacturer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Troll" rel="nofollow - Karl Troll (1865-1954), Austrian architect etc. Oh wait, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29" rel="nofollow - Troll (Internet) ,
an internet term for a person who, through willful action, attempts to
disrupt a community or garner attention and controversy through
provocative messages.
Ignoring the person will generally derail them.
There is something about being able to be anonymous that does encourages people to behave that way. I myself have annoyed a few people on this site, but I am not hiding behind a mask.
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If not a mask, what is that light blue thing over your upper face
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 09:03
tamijo wrote:
If not a mask, what is that light blue thing over your upper face |
Isn't it too transparent to be a mask? Anyway, apart from being annoying I hope I haven't crossed the line into being abusive.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 09:41
Trust me Slarti, if you had, you'd know...
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 09:48
Occasionally irritating, less often funny.
Walter actually got on my nerves, because he was so stupidly trying to defend the indefensible, without listening to any cogent arguments to the contrary.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:04
Blacksword wrote:
The old timers around here will remember KE9. Now, that was a troll, and also an 'internet bully' I believe he actually sent threatening PM's to other users, who were critical of ELP!
Do we have any of his posts cached anywhere? I'd love to read them again. I thought he was quite funny, until I decided he was actually potentially dangerous.. |
I'd consider KE9 more like a very susceptible ultra-fanboy that became a bully,(because he couldn't read the last critic about his faves), rather than a troll per se...
VelvetClown was more of a troll, Wallace as well.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:22
Jim Garten wrote:
Trust me Slarti, if you had, you'd know...
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" rel="nofollow"> |
I don't shy away from being annoying but I do try to draw the line at being disrespectful. Hopefully I have accomplished that.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:22
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:26
Slartibartfast wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Trust me Slarti, if you had, you'd know...
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" rel="nofollow"> | I don't shy away from being annoying but I do try to draw the line at being disrespectful. Hopefully I have accomplished that. |
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Oh, all right then...
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:31
Jim Garten wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
Trust me Slarti, if you had, you'd know...
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php" rel="nofollow"> | I don't shy away from being annoying but I do try to draw the line at being disrespectful. Hopefully I have accomplished that. |
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Oh, all right then... |
I try, maybe I fail sometimes.
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:52
It's trolling ! What a happiness !
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 11:56
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I miss Walter
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I don't. He was becoming a one hit wonder which was becoming unbecoming.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:02
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:33
It's an essential part of the online ecosystem. You may as well find Earth's nitrogen cycle disruptive.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:50
To even pose the ? is in itself trolling
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 12:51
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
It's an essential part of the online ecosystem. You may as well find Earth's nitrogen cycle disruptive.
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Except that we could get rid of the trolls without damaging this "ecosystem"...
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 13:16
False
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 13:42
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
False
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 13:52
I think it's mostly irritating, but sometimes people can pull it off well and actually be funny.
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 13:57
colorofmoney91 wrote:
I think it's mostly irritating, but sometimes people can pull it off well and actually be funny. |
Would the latter then qualify as trolling?
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 14:19
Mostly I just go clippety cloppety over the rickety rackety bridge. But occasionally one gets me.
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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 14:35
I sort of agree with the invasive policy that is emerging whereby sites identify you with your real name, stats and image. It probably helps mitigate uninhibited trolling. Then again, I abhor the invasion of privacy, it is very important to be at least a little anonymous. Maybe there is a compromise, whereby your identity is affirmed to the site but not the public per se.... It seems a difficult task to really make internet conversations high quality, so even this tactic may be a waste of time.
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 19:09
Snow Dog wrote:
The problem is that trolling and internet bullying and intimidation have become to mean the same thing. |
Yeah, it looks like in the eyes of the media, "trolling" will become synonymous with bullies and stalkers and what not. They already did the same thing with the word "hacker". In the computing community, a hacker was a programmer or computer enthusiast. Then the media decided to apply the term only to malicious vandals. The programming community lost that battle resoundingly.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 20:22
zappaholic wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
The problem is that trolling and internet bullying and intimidation have become to mean the same thing. |
Yeah, it looks like in the eyes of the media, "trolling" will become synonymous with bullies and stalkers and what not. They already did the same thing with the word "hacker". In the computing community, a hacker was a programmer or computer enthusiast. Then the media decided to apply the term only to malicious vandals. The programming community lost that battle resoundingly. |
The bigger problem with the word hacking, I think, is that they apply it to things like DDoSing and tricking people into giving you their password (by asking).
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 20:23
Not nearly annoying as responding to posts with the first 3 sentences of a wikipedia page about a word in a previous post.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 20:29
Female status update on Facebook:
_________ is SO GOTH now. aaaand prolly a lesbian kkk.. (posted 4 minutes ago via mobile)
_________ OMG HACKED BY MY GIRLIEEEESS LUV YOU ALL ~~~~xoxo ;) (posted 39 seconds ago via mobile)
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 21:24
I like trolls from time to time. Every forum needs one from time to time. After the banning, a time of peace will be followed by a new troll. New ban, peace, troll. Troll, ban, peace, troll.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 21:41
tragically misunderstood, e.g. : I like pizza.
I mean was that so bad? I'll give you another: Bruce Lee kicked ass.
what's the problem?
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 21:57
The very best trolling is indistinguishable from performance art.
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 22:47
I won't front, it pisses me off. I don't want to relegate brainpower to figuring out whether somebody is being a malicious idiot or just a regular idiot.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: March 21 2012 at 23:39
I've never found trolls to be all that... hey wait a second... they're eating her! and then they're going to eat me! OH MY GAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWD!!!
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 07:31
Personally I enjoy trolls. Mainly because some of the bizarre reactions they provoke. Great fun to watch.
My favourite is the furious "keep calm, people, it's only a troll, don't get provoked" reaction from someone whose blood pressure is evidently going through the roof.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 07:51
Are trolls really all that bad when compared to spammers?
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 07:56
Comparing trolls to spammers is like comparing the Plague and the Cholera.
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 09:07
manofmystery wrote:
I've never found trolls to be all that... hey wait a second... they're eating her! and then they're going to eat me! OH MY GAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWD!!! |
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 10:41
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 11:46
Dean wrote:
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter. |
they'd be more dangerous and do more damage
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 11:51
Dean wrote:
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter. |
There's a Spanish proverb which says: "If bulls were smarter, there would be less corridas."
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 11:53
The T wrote:
I like trolls from time to time. Every forum needs one from time to time. After the banning, a time of peace will be followed by a new troll. New ban, peace, troll. Troll, ban, peace, troll. |
Kind of like the "online ecosystem" concept Equality posted earlier. There is a certain beauty to it.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 12:11
Sean Trane wrote:
Dean wrote:
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter. |
they'd be more dangerous and do more damage |
CPicard wrote:
Dean wrote:
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter. |
There's a Spanish proverb which says: "If bulls were smarter, there would be less corridas."
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Neither of these sound less interesting than watching people feed a dumb troll.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 13:22
Dean wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Dean wrote:
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter. |
they'd be more dangerous and do more damage |
CPicard wrote:
Dean wrote:
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter. |
There's a Spanish proverb which says: "If bulls were smarter, there would be less corridas."
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Neither of these sound less interesting than watching people feed a dumb troll. |
That sounds about right.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 17:26
Maybe I missed it but where is that nose picking troll cartoon when we need it? Eh for now a troll doll. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wizard_troll_doll-low_res.jpg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 18:31
Sean Trane wrote:
Dean wrote:
Life would be more interesting if trolls were smarter. |
they'd be more dangerous and do more damage |
Pretty sure that's what he meant. Interesting times.... interesting times.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 22 2012 at 19:32
Its the internet........who cares.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 03:52
How Trolls see themselves:
How they really are:
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 04:41
^^^
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 04:49
That's worth two of these Aww hell, have another.
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 05:19
Awesome
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 05:21
I must have a different sense of humour as that was more obvious than funny to me.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 08:16
Dammit & there was I thinking I was being so original
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 08:45
Jim Garten wrote:
Dammit & there was I thinking I was being so original |
It's probably just me Jim.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 09:38
I would be more concerned if the images were swapped.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 10:24
The image of the real troll goes against all that we know about them. They don't wear bow ties nor are they so clean and well-dressed. They don't wear red glasses that match and their rooms are not so clean that, besides the pristine table, there's just whiteness behind. No no no.
Combine the smell, clothes and surroundings of the troll above with the general human form of the one below and then you have accurate results.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 14:15
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 20:52
The T wrote:
The image of the real troll goes against all that we know about them. They don't wear bow ties nor are they so clean and well-dressed. They don't wear red glasses that match and their rooms are not so clean that, besides the pristine table, there's just whiteness behind. No no no.
Combine the smell, clothes and surroundings of the troll above with the general human form of the one below and then you have accurate results. |
So, more like this:
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 23 2012 at 21:55
Perfect
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 24 2012 at 03:46
zappaholic wrote:
The T wrote:
The image of the real troll goes against all that we know about them. They don't wear bow ties nor are they so clean and well-dressed. They don't wear red glasses that match and their rooms are not so clean that, besides the pristine table, there's just whiteness behind. No no no.
Combine the smell, clothes and surroundings of the troll above with the general human form of the one below and then you have accurate results. |
So, more like this:
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any physical resemblance with a famous Nordic PA collad is completely fortuitious, purely coincidental and involuntary
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 26 2012 at 06:07
He certainly keep us on the Admin Team busy:
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 26 2012 at 08:54
Not as bad as a long hair guys infestation...
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 27 2012 at 03:19
A Belgian prog troll
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 03:41
My favourite target is the guy who is always at great pains to stress how it's fine to disregard him and disagree with him, he doesn't care, go ahead, laugh at me, it doesn't matter and then flies off the handle when someone does these things. Also the guy who is obviously raging with hate and anger but writes these very ornate and carefully worded posts which are ever so reasonable and unoffensive in a failed attempt to show what a grown-up he is. There is a classic case of that second guy right here on PA. Or is there? Perhaps I'm trolling. There was another guy (not the same) here whose defence of his views on a certain subject were so stupid that I decided he was trolling and just began bullying him because he couldn't possibly believe what he was saying. And then I eventually realised that he was being serious and just felt sorry for him and now can't bring myself to respond to anything he posts. I actually miss Walter. Once you realised it was a joke, it became kind of funny, at least if you like recursive humour.
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 05:05
One guy? There's plenty of that on PA but is that trolling? Seems more like, well an attempt to show how grown up they are At least hiding behind "trolling" which is actually a good technique. Go over the top and make it kind of obvious so people assume you're trolling, and really can say your true feelings without letting it on!
That happens often as well.
Do be careful with honest accusations of trolling, we forget people are dumb Dumb crazy animals and are probably serious generally!
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhh Walter. It was funny but just got too stale, though I admire his unnatural dedication. I more enjoyed his random entrance to a thread to post some witty one liner and shut you down. That man was a true internet hero!
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 05:40
^ I agree with Brian, the number of tru-trolls we get here are few and far between, most that say something contentious or provoking are probably very genuine in their opinions, just a little misguided perhaps. If they resort to ad hominem attacks as a result of any rebuttals they get as a consequence then they are a lost cause I fear.
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 05:47
Can anyone admit to being a troll?I am not purely a troll but my response to an argument I feel will never go anywhere is often to become bizarre and flippant rather than actually engage earnestly in a futile dialogue and it is pretty much trolling.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 05:58
Textbook wrote:
Can anyone admit to being a troll?
I am not purely a troll but my response to an argument I feel will never go anywhere is often to become bizarre and flippant rather than actually engage earnestly in a futile dialogue and it is pretty much trolling. |
Is that trolling or just normal conversation? We post replies as if we are having a face-to-face argument down the pub, albeit without the fear that a smack in the mouth can often cause offense. That gives us a false sense of bravado that we would not normally have in a real life situation, or the ability to laugh our way out of the impending slap - flippancy is a normal everyday response that we all fall prey to, as is the odd jovial jibe when someone says something silly. The skill on pure textual conversations such as this is not only being able to make those flippant comments without causing offense, but also to recieve them in the humour they are made, regretably, that is not a universal skill because we cannot read facial expressions, body language or hand gestures to interpret those words in the manner they were sent.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 06:05
Dean wrote:
The skill on pure textual conversations such as this is not only being able to make those flippant comments without causing offense, but also to recieve them in the humour they are made, regretably, that is not a universal skill because we cannot read facial expressions, body language or hand gestures to interpret those words in the manner they were sent. |
Absolutely - hence the recommended use of appropriate emoticons to if not replicate, then at least suggest facial expression/intent - when in doubt, stick in a winkie!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 29 2012 at 08:38
read on another forum, replying to a YesTroll that seems to emerge straight out of Jon Anderson's lyrics
"So what happened here -- you emerged from Chris Squire's anal cavity long enough to check out the Jethro Tull thread? Kudos to you! A question: how long can you actually live outside of it? When do the cravings for his corn-studded excrement become so unbearable that you frantically claw yourself back up in there like a crack addict two weeks without a fix?
Better get back in there quick!"
Believe me, the troll never replied
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: April 01 2012 at 23:24
I would call replying to that losing.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:52
You'r stuopid! HOMOBOY! Just Kidding!
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