Dire Straights
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Topic: Dire Straights
Posted By: RUM26
Subject: Dire Straights
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 02:16
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whats good or bad about dire straights ------------- SHEP get with the program |
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 02:23
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Good: The music Bad: How you spelled Straits ------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: RUM26
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 02:28
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LOL!! i forgot the straits was different to the normal straight. but about the music, whats your favourite album ------------- SHEP get with the program |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 02:39
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"Love over gold". Should this thread be in non-prog music? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 02:39
Straits is as much the normal Straits as Straights!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 02:41
| Boring AOR.Should be in the forum for 'Crap eighties bands'. |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 03:00
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Good: Excellent music, leaning towards prog in some albums. One of my all-time favourite bands. Best album: Love over gold, best song: Private investigations. Bad: they ran out of steam, should have stopped after the Brothers in Arms album. |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 03:13
That's my fav album of DS to. Telegraph road and Private Investigations have a special quality about them in the Dire Straits catalogue IMO. ------------- Eternity |
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 03:28
They did, indeed. They only released On every street as an original album afterwards, as far as I remember. After that I only heard that Knofpler released some solo albums (which is no different than JT-Ian Anderson relationship anyway), and I obscurely remember another live album in the early nineties. Nothing more. What am I doing here by the way!?!?!? IMHO Dire Straits is one of those late '70's-early '80's bands, from whom a compilation album is enough for a collector of (prog) rock music. Well, we can add Sultans of Swing and Love over Gold albums as well, but that's it! About leaning towards prog issue: DS is not the only band in this category, many are. Just think of Doors, Crosby Stills Nash (& Young), Magna Carta, Iron Butterfly, Grateful Dead, and Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath and Rainbow on the heavier side... Average proggers should seek their fortune somewhere else, IMHO ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 03:34
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Dire Straits was the first band of which I really beacame a fan. It's maybe THE most dispised english band between the major rock best sellers (look how they made fun of them even in movies: Full Monty and Shaun of the Dead are two examples). Thanks god, they have a large following in Spain. The have a couple of proggish records (at least, progger than what other prog groups were releasing around the same years): 'Making Movies' and the already mentioned 'Love Over Gold'. My favourite song is 'Telegraph Road', which incidentally was more or less the song that led me to prog, so it can't be all that bad By the way, it is curious, at least in my country, that many Straits fans are also Oldfield fans (Spain is the country with the biggest Oldfield fanbase). Many of them also end up listening to Yes and so on... About Mark Knopfler output, well... On Every Street, the follow up album to best seller 'Brothers in Arms' was a dissapointment, although I rather liked his next (solo) album 'Golden Heart'. After that, he has started to make some too american folk influenced records, what is not my cup of tea, although they have received some good reviews (you know: make it simple and gain reviewers recognition). Curiiously, his brother David has been doing the same kind of records from the early 90s, and I like them better.
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 03:55
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I completely dislike Mark Knopfler's singing and playing approach...he often sounds like an unsuccessful Bruce Springsteen replica.
And his guitar licks sound too "american country" to me... (american friends don't get me wrong, but I really dislike country music...) Last but not least, to me most of his compositions are dull. Anyway some of their output are not so bad and could easily fit into the "prog" concept (I'm thinking about Telegraph Road, Private investigations and Money for nothing) ------------- A flower? 
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Posted By: Yurkspb
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 04:27
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DS is one of my favorite non-prog bands. I like all their 1978-1982 albums a lot, later works, including Knopfler solo efforts - a little less. |
Posted By: mono
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 04:47
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BiGi, I agree with you on the fact that Knofler has lame guitar playing and dull vocals, but his compositions can sometimes be amazing. Telegraph Road is an exceptionnal song, not prog at all, not complex, but original. And quite different from all the eighties crap. Speaking of eighties crap... Richardh, I'm sure all you know of DS is that they grew in the 80's... I'd say Love over Gold is a 4 stars Album. |
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 05:16
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FOR WHAT ITS WORTH ... DIRE STRAITS PROVIDED THE SOUNDTRACK TO MY TEENS SO IT HAS A BIT OF A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY MUSICAL JOURNEY. sorry - caps lock was on - didn't mean to shout at yer all! ... I think extended songs like Love over Gold & Private Investigations have some proggy characteristics but not sure if I would call DS a prog band ... ------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ...... The Church "After Everything Now This" |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 05:34
| Romeo and Juliet is nice. |
Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 05:44
Mmmm... the vocals are not great, but somehow pleasant to listen to. But I wouldn't say the playing is 'lame'. Knopfler's playing style is at least fairly peculiar and you can instantly recognize it. It's one of those guitarworks that are often cited in reviews. That doesn't mean he is the best player in the world (although I think is one of the best when he finger picks the electric guitar), but that he has a sound of his own, just like Mike Oldfield, David Gilmour, etc. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 05:45
| Notable as a band that come out of the latterdays of the UK punk period - surprisingly treated as punk (why: perhaps initially the pundit's couldn't separate punk and pub rock - although neither comes close to pigeonholing DS); for instance, they were represented by a couple of tracks on that classic punk/pub-rock double Live At The Hope & Anchor LP. For some reason, Knopfler's sung line with guitar response, always reminded of Tony Joe White's approach to cajun rock. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 05:49
| Mega famous band poular with the more mature age group. Very competent if a little dull and samey. Love Over Gold is a great album though and I hate Sultans Of Swing! |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 06:48
Would you include yourself in the more mature age group, Snow Dog?  That usually means, 25kg overweight (to much spotted dick) and losing it on top.  ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 06:52
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Leave me out of this!!! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 06:59
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I am in that age group but I've never had spotted Dick! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 07:00
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I could never get into Dire Straits, not the old albums and not the later albums. I only like a few tracks like Private Investigations and Calling Elvis. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 07:02
| And Walk Of Life is for me he most horrible track ever released by a well-known band. But I'll leave the Dire Straits-fans alone. Don't pay attention to me. |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 07:09
Sorry Dick. I was of course talking about the famous english cuisine. I would never allude to a trist between yourself and Snow Dog especially at a time when you had chicken pox. ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 07:23
Yes, I don't think Dick wants to have any part in it. Will have to be more careful on the forum now. Will have to say things like, you Richard head, you only ever think of your Richard, get a Richard in your ear, should be more careful where you put your Richard, etc. ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: DavidInsabella
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 10:31
 Are we listening to the same music?------------- Life seemed to him merely like a gallery of how to be. 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 10:58
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There good. At times boring at times exciting. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: spectral
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 11:04
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Everything is bad about dire straits, especially the bandana. ------------- "...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine." |
Posted By: Drachen Theaker
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 11:21
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Private Investigations - really good
Brothers in Arms - really dull Twistin' by the Pool -  worse than Love Beach,
Big Generator and Invisible Touch combined ------------- "It's 1973, almost dinnertime and I'm 'aving 'oops!" - Gene Hunt |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 11:51
Except the excellent songwriting and guitar playing. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 13:17
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Dire Straits is a great band! especially the 78-82 period (though i haven't heard much from that period). Love Over Gold is a masterpiece and Brothers in Arms is also a excellent album. Not really prog though. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 13:55
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good: decent music bad: those cheesy computer animated videos ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Odd24
Date Posted: July 11 2005 at 14:03
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Sailing to Philedelphia This album certainly does not sound like prog but more like country. Of all the albums I've heard from Mark Knopfler including all Dire Straits albums, this is the one which has the most odd signatures. Love it, love it, love it!!!
------------- Right down the line |
Posted By: Don_Frog
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 18:04
| I really like much of what they did, except for Money For Nothing. I hate that bleeping song. |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 19:40
| I like the band, but anyone saying mark knopfler is a bad guitarist is either an idiot or knows nothing about music. He has one of the cleanest, most original styles there is. and he never, I mean NEVER uses a pick. Hes an extremely talented guitarist, if you dont like his style thats fine, but saying hes a bad guitarist is stupid. |
Posted By: felona
Date Posted: July 12 2005 at 19:46
yeah, I went to see him in concert a few months back - He was so competent & relaxed and very professional - his guitar playing is amazing ... and his backing band were pretty darn good too. Definitey one of the best concerts I've seen ...  ------------- I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ...... The Church "After Everything Now This" |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: July 14 2005 at 09:34
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i always thought love over gold is a prog album! it is an outstanding album! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Phallusdei
Date Posted: July 16 2005 at 12:38
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Never was a group so aptly named. -------------  
"The only notes worth bothering with come in wads" |