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Topic: Thick As A Brick 2!Posted By: Adams Bolero
Subject: Thick As A Brick 2!
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 03:30
Ian Anderson has announced the release of a squeal to Thick As A Brick!
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Replies: Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 04:11
Released on apr 2., I read in Prog ears >>> Sounds like a bad hoax, and IF it were real, I'd expect a mjor disaster
Somehow, I can't magine anderson taking this kind of risks , unless he's really grown to hate TAAB's impact on his career
Most likely without this dude's cooperation.
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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 04:27
It is not a hoax. It is definitely happening and Martin is NOT involved. Oh how much more excited I would be if Martin was playing on this project. It just isn't the same without him. See below
Anderson has even created an on-line St Cleve Chronicle Newspaper Website for the 21st century TAAB2. See here:
http://www.stcleve.com/
Looks like Jeffrey and John (Evan) were not involved this time in the writing of the newspaper. But there are a number of revisited old favourite characters from 1972.
Lets hope this recording is not a stinker. Oh and Ian doesn't sing at all.
Posted By: enigma
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 04:28
I must admit I would be worried if Roger Waters announced DSOTM2.
New material is always interesting, but to tie it in with previous success seems wrong and a touch desperate.
Hopefully IA believes it is a worthy successor to the '72 album, I'm certainly keen to hear it with an open mind.
PlanetRock will be having an interview with IA. They will be discussing it and hopefully playing some snippets.
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 06:07
If this is genuine, it is following up on one of the greatest prog rock concept albums ever.
IA always said TAAB was a parody of the genre; I am fearful that if this is genuine, TAAB2 will be a parody of itself alone.
BarryGlibb wrote:
Oh and Ian doesn't sing at all.
True, there's always the issue that IA's voice has deteriorated badly in recent years (unfortunately, the last 3 times I've seen Tull, IA couldn't carry a tune in a bucket)
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 06:54
Eh, you can count me in the camp that thinks this probably won't turn out well. Also wondering if Adams deliberately called it a squeal and not sequel.
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Posted By: SirJethro
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:40
Steven Wilson has mixed the new Album!
"I recently had the pleasure of mixing the new Ian Anderson / Jethro
Tull album, which is a follow up to the classic Thick as a Brick album
from 1972. TAAB2 is very much in the tradition of the first album, a
continuous 54 minute concept piece with a similar musical palette and
style. It's just been officially announced for release in April as a
CD/DVD (including a 5.1 mix and stereo in high res), more details on the
Tull website. I also completed mixes for a 40th anniversary surround
sound edition of the original Thick as a Brick, though not sure when
that is coming out.
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:52
I'm pretty skeptical about this, but I'll reserve judgment until I can hear it. However, creating a sequel to a classic album, many years later, is often a recipe for disaster. On the other hand, Eloy did a passable job with Ocean 2, though it is nowhere near as good an album as the original. The issue of Ian's vocals, is however, a big one. We'll just have to wait and see. At least with Steve Wilson doing the mixing, we know the sound quality will be pristine.
Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:58
I'm pretty concerned myself.
I mean, Steve Wilson being involved and the project being inspired by a conversation with Derek Shulman of Gentle Giant fame ought to be good signs. But I'm left unconvinced. The bit which keeps coming back to me is on one hand, the resurrection of the Jethro Tull name with so many key players absent (including Barre, who granted wasn't a member of the original lineup but has been key to the Tull sound ever since he joined), and on top of that the resurrection of the Thick as a Brick name for the sake of a sequel.
I mean, the concept of the album could be interesting - a piece in which Gerald Bostock looks back on his life and ponders whether he's manage to live his life according to the ideas he set out in his youth, and (if he concludes that he didn't) whether that's actually a personal failing of his or simply a matter of time and experience giving him a different perspective, now that could be interesting territory to explore. But having seen so, so many instances lately of people putting stuff out simply to trade on the reputation of past successes I'm wary. I'm especially wary since, as so many others have pointed out, the original was meant to be a spoof - so the sequel risks becoming either on the one hand a spoof of a spoof, and too self-referential to be interesting with it, or on the other hand taking the whole thing much more seriously than the band did for the original TAAB and so completely failing to recapture what made it so special in the first place.
Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 09:05
Or, the whole thing could be a big joke, with the punchline coming April 1st. If that was the case, that would be brilliant.
If it's not, then I agree with all your concerns. This just seems like a bad idea.
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 09:14
I'm all ears. He seemed sincere in his website release, and I generally consider Anderson to be a guy not prone to boneheaded decisions. Sequels generally have the smell of "publicity stunt", and it's hard to buy the "I just felt like this sequel was brewing inside of me and I had to let it out" story. But if anyone could pull it off, I'll give Ian the benefit of the doubt.
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Posted By: tarkus1980
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 10:03
This will be so, so, so, so, so bad.
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Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 10:16
I should add that I will be giving it a listen and giving it a fair chance. It might surprise me. But that's precisely what it'd be if it's a great follow-up to the original: one hell of a surprise. It'd be the odd man out in so many other misguided sequel projects.
Then again, misguided sequels might be precisely what the album spoofs. A piece about Gerald Bostock discovering that what's endearing and precocious coming from a small boy is just plain juvenile and irritating when it's coming from a 50-year-old could have potential for some laughs.
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:09
The only good that could come of this would be to somehow include a clever lyric about someone being "thick as a brick too".
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:15
Warthur wrote:
Steve Wilson being involved and the project being inspired by a conversation with Derek Shulman of Gentle Giant fame ought to be good signs. But I'm left unconvinced. The bit which keeps coming back to me is on one hand, the resurrection of the Jethro Tull name with so many key players absent (including Barre, who granted wasn't a member of the original lineup but has been key to the Tull sound ever since he joined), and on top of that the resurrection of the Thick as a Brick name for the sake of a sequel.
I mean, the concept of the album could be interesting - a piece in which Gerald Bostock looks back on his life and ponders whether he's manage to live his life according to the ideas he set out in his youth, and (if he concludes that he didn't) whether that's actually a personal failing of his or simply a matter of time and experience giving him a different perspective, now that could be interesting territory to explore. But having seen so, so many instances lately of people putting stuff out simply to trade on the reputation of past successes I'm wary. I'm especially wary since, as so many others have pointed out, the original was meant to be a spoof - so the sequel risks becoming either on the one hand a spoof of a spoof, and too self-referential to be interesting with it, or on the other hand taking the whole thing much more seriously than the band did for the original TAAB and so completely failing to recapture what made it so special in the first place.
Excellent post.
Mind you...
Infadous wrote:
Or, the whole thing could be a big joke, with the punchline coming April 1st.
You know, Infadous, this would not surprise me one iota
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:21
"...and voila! They all fell for it at ProgArchives... that's a tenner you owe me, Barre!"
"DOH!!"
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:38
Coming soon: "Close To The Other Edge"!!!
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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 12:51
Sounds to me like Mr. Anderson is definitely Living In The Past...
...Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:07
Neu!mann wrote:
Sounds to me like Mr. Anderson is definitely Living In The Past...
...Sorry, couldn't resist.
I declare this the Winner Of The Thread!!!!
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Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:32
^
I was going to say something like 'I'll give you the Benefit of the doubt there' but realised being witty isn't my forte.
Nothing is easy...
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:59
Come on now folks, give it a chance! It could end up being fantastic
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 14:01
Son of a bitch Ian. Just release an album and we'll be happy. Now you went and risked making another Scarsick, which retroactively sullies the reputation of The Perfect Element Part II.
I hope you know what you're doing.
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Posted By: SirJethro
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 15:37
Scarsick was great.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 16:45
^Scarsick is a pile of garbage.
Anyway, I will remain skeptical of this until April 1st. It's very strange that they held off such an announcement until a month before release, and announce it in such a plain manner, as a simple news post on the website and a couple Youtube vids. If it's real, the album must have been in the works for a long time and should be all completed by now. I would expect promo videos, interviews, and a website re-design months in advance. Also, such a prank seems in line with Ian's sense of humor. I do hope it's real and a great album, but it something just doesn't seem right here. If those preview vids are anything to go by, it shouldn't be as bad a sequel as Scarsick. Operation Mindcrime II would probably be a better analogy.
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 01 2012 at 17:36
We don;t need two thread for this, please continue here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=84646" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=84646