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Topic: Most technical albums
Posted By: AlexDOM
Subject: Most technical albums
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 19:49
What in your opinion are some of prog's most technical albums?



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Posted By: MattGuitat
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 20:06
Anything by Dream Theater.


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 20:08
According to my understanding of the description 'technical' two albums spring to mind:

Gryphon
- Red Queen to Gryphon 3
Island - Pictures
Gentle Giant - several tracks on most of their albums

However, I might be getting 'technical' and 'complex' confused?



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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 20:15
Originally posted by MattGuitat MattGuitat wrote:

Anything by Dream Theater.

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Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 20:30
Blotted Science !!



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Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 20:31
Planet X - Quantum

Exivious - Self-Titled


Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 20:31
Originally posted by MattGuitat MattGuitat wrote:

Anything by Dream Theater.
 
I don't think so


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 25 2012 at 20:50
Trout Mask Replica


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 00:00
Behold... The Arctopus - Skullgrid
Blotted Science - The Machinations of Dementia
Ron Jarzombek - Solitarily Speaking of Theoretical Confinement

That sort of thing


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Posted By: OzzProg
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 00:40
deadmau5 is "progressive" electronic right? LOL

hmmmmm



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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 01:42
Close To The Edge. Lateralus, Metropolis Part 2, Option Paralysis, Frances The Mute

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 06:23
Neu! 2 (1973).


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 06:26
Technical Ecstasy?Wink

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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 06:37
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

According to my understanding of the description 'technical' two albums spring to mind:

Gryphon
- Red Queen to Gryphon 3
Island - Pictures
Gentle Giant - several tracks on most of their albums

However, I might be getting 'technical' and 'complex' confused?


I think you are getting the two confused as I don't find any of the above that technical, but definitely complex. In the case of Dream Theater, I think people mainly complain about the music being so technical that it is sterile, lacking any emotional impact. Personally I don't find that to be the case. One band I've always found to be a bit too technical such that the music is scripted to a Jazz - Folk musical formula is Pentangle (though I've never had a chance to listen to the music live which could change my opinion).


Posted By: Misomex777
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 08:10
Tarkus


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 09:08
Phish - Junta
Gojira - From Mars to Sirius
Cynic - Traced in Air


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 09:21
It depends what you mean by "technical."
 
Animals as Leaders is about as technical as it gets in my book.


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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 09:28

Any of Brand X's first three albums



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Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 09:42
Zappa-One Size Fits All!

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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 10:42
Technical and/or extremely complex:

The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
Behold... The Arctopus - Skullgrid & Nano Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning 
Captain Beefheart And His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica
Blotted Science - The Machinations of Dementia 
The Number Twelve Looks Like You - Mongrel 
... and most things by Orthrelm



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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 11:38
Triumvirat-Illusions On A Double Dimple
Wallenstein-Blitzkrieg
Wallenstein-Mother Universe
ELP-Brain Salad Surgery and Tarkus


Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 12:40
Anything by the Mats/Morgen band, Kayo Dot's Coyote, Meshuggah's Destroy Erase Improve, Magma's K.A, anything by Koenjihyakkei, Henry Cow's In Praise of Learning, Deathspell Omega's Fas - Ite..., Cheer-Accident's Introducing Lemon, Dun's Eros, Mastodon's Blood Mountain, Naked City's Radio and the eponymous album, Secret Chiefs 3's Book M and several math rock albums out there.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 14:52
Eloy - Time To Turn
Gentle Giant - In A Glass House
Mike Oldfield - Incantations
Par Lindh Project - Veni Vidi Vici
Rick Wakeman - Six Wives Of Henry VIII


Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 15:08
Very skeptical about Eloy...but hadn't listened to that album before. Checking it out on Spotify now.

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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 15:19
American Don by Don Caballero?


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 15:22
aminals as readers


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 16:17
Atheist - 'unquestionable presence'
Death - 'individual thought patterns'
The New Tony Williams Lifetime - 'Believe it'
Yes - 'Tales from topographic oceans'
Spastic Ink - 'ink complete'
 
 


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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 19:16
This is the most technical album I've ever heard, by Spiral Architect.  When you listen to this, you will either be very impressed or completely annoyed.




Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 26 2012 at 19:25
Originally posted by Eärendil Eärendil wrote:

This is the most technical album I've ever heard, by Spiral Architect.  When you listen to this, you will either be very impressed or completely annoyed.



DT with a bassist. 


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 01:42
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Very skeptical about Eloy...but hadn't listened to that album before. Checking it out on Spotify now.
Depends on the exact definition of 'technical'. To me suggest some sort of precision in the playing and a great deal of attention to the production. The keyboards,drums and bass are perfect on this
 


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 01:49
Ron Jarzombek, Ron Jarzombek.. oh and Ron Jarzombek



Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 03:20
Anything by protest the hero, the latest Dream Theater, between and buried me...


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: January 27 2012 at 03:30
There is a lot of really super technical stuff out there and I see a lot of selections in this thread that seem to really not hold a lot of water. Dream Theater? Solid musicians, sure, but their writing is far from the most technical out there. Yes TFTO? Long does not equal technical. We don't have a real solid criteria for what we mean by technical here. Lot's of rhythmic variance, counterpoint, pure speed, key modulation, syncopation? I'm sure we could find an argument somewhere that John Cages - 4'33" is the most complex piece of music ever written.

For my part, I love technicality of ensemble, but not necessarily individual. The sub-genres here that meet that criteria best tend to be Jazz/Rock fusion, Tech/Extreme Metal (many not included in the archives), and certain RIO/Avant selections. Some already mentioned:
For the classic prog era you really can't go wrong with Gentle Giant. Not always the fastest, but made the most of very challenging compositions.
Spiral Architect
Behold...the Arctopus
Ron Jarzombek (Watchtower, Spastic Ink, Blotted Science)
Animals as Leaders
Exivious


Here are some of my fav's with some variation for fun.







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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: January 28 2012 at 13:27
^ that Bumblefoot bit was crazy


Posted By: Turillazzo
Date Posted: January 29 2012 at 03:56
miRthkon's Vehicle, Magma's KA (that's pretty complex imho), modern King Crimson, and most of GG and G?G!


Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: January 30 2012 at 09:37
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom

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Posted By: JS19
Date Posted: January 30 2012 at 10:24
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

I'm sure we could find an argument somewhere that John Cages - 4'33" is the most complex piece of music ever written.


I like the bit where they turn the pages...


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Posted By: LeMonotreme
Date Posted: February 25 2012 at 08:11
UneXpect's "In a Flesh Aquarium" makes a compelling case here. 

And Yes, Spiral Architect. 



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