Why Does Everyone Dislike U2?
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Topic: Why Does Everyone Dislike U2?
Posted By: stonebeard
Subject: Why Does Everyone Dislike U2?
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 19:49
My interest in this was sparked by all of the reviews of Octavarium in which many people do not like the song "I Walk Beside You" because it sounds like U2.
I know that U2 is not prog. who wouldnt know that. And that therefore means that many people on this site can be predisposed to dislike them.
I can understand if you have their new stuff (every so often I review albums for my own leisure and i gave their newest, How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, a *1/2 out of *****)
But their first albums (Boy, October, War, The Joshua Tree(highly over-rated BTW, but still good) are absolute masterpieces (The Joshua Tree to a lesser extent) I excluded The Unforgettable Fire, and rightly so.
And don't get me started on Achtung Baby (one of my top 10 of all time).
Tell me what you think.
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 21:30
I think that most music collecters should own at least The Joshua Tree or War (War being better)
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 21:56
I like some of their work. It's really hit or miss for me.
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: July 03 2005 at 22:00
...because everyone loves U2.
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 13:31
U2 is one of those bands I dont' particularly care for, but respect.
And yes, War is a pretty good album.
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Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 13:34
Does everybody dislike U2? I didn't know that... well, they're not in my top 100, but I don't dislike them. I think they do pretty decent R & R.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:21
I don't dislike them either. They had some great songs. But I never heard an album that I liked enough to buy it.
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Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 15:41
Because people here are in prog rock... I mean, don't ask in a metal forum why everyone hates hip-hop...
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 17:45
Borealis wrote:
Because people here are in prog rock... I mean, don't ask in a metal forum why everyone hates hip-hop... |
well, i think you're a little harsh with your comparison. i think many people in the forums aren't sole prog listeners and often listen outside the genre. i do. that's why i have a u2 collection.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 18:03
Yep I like U2 a lot!
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 18:21
U2 are a fine band.
Love most of their stuff up to Achtung Baby and,of course,The Joshua Tree is one of the greatest albums ever. I have always been amazed by the level of antipathy towards them on this site.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 18:26
Tony R wrote:
U2 are a fine band.
Love most of their stuff up to Achtung Baby and,of course,The Joshua Tree is one of the greatest albums ever. I have always been amazed by the level of antipathy towards them on this site.
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Its because they're too famous Tony, I agree about The Joshua Tree. I also like Achtung Baby and Zooropa
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 01:55
I liked 'em from War to Achtung ... I do think they've got some bad albums though ... Boy and Pop, to name a couple of extremes ...
why does everyone not like 'em? The popularity, for one ... also, I think Bono can be a bit of a smarty pants sometimes ... and lately because they seem to be going through that caricature (correct spelling?) stage ...
but I think most of us who are open to non-prog would think that U2 have made some worthy music at some point in their career ... It's easy to forget how powerful a song Sunday Bloody Sunday is ... until you hear it again
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 03:04
From Unforgettable Fire to Achtung Baby! , U2 was virtually flawless.
IMHO, T U F : 3,5 /5, T J T : 4/5 R & H : 4/5 A B! : 4/5
Before that , they were just an average pop band and from Zooropa on, they should've quit while they were ahead!
During those 4 albums , they became artists!
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:03
What I heard of them didn't convince me much. The singing is absolutely boring, and the guitar... ahem.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:07
Sean Trane wrote:
From Unforgettable Fire to Achtung Baby! , U2 was virtually flawless.
IMHO, T U F : 3,5 /5, T J T : 4/5 R & H : 4/5 A B! : 4/5
Before that , they were just an average pop band and from Zooropa on, they should've quit while they were ahead!
During those 4 albums , they became artists!
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They didn't and they still are ahead! One of the best bands around!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 08:11
BaldFriede wrote:
What I heard of them didn't convince me much. The singing is absolutely boring, and the guitar... ahem. |
So you're dissing Bono and The Edge!!! Oh well.
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Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 09:54
Hate 'em. Never heard anything good from them and always felt their music is very annoying.
But then again, I "hate" almost all commercial music so they are not anything special in that sense.
I just like PROG!!!
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Posted By: lynton samuel
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 10:11
because they are BORING!!!
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Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 12:44
Because U2 screams arrogance...
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 14:25
u2 is one of the best bands ever, i like them early years, and a few of the latter years, i accept that they´ve a couple of poor albums , but is a very good band
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 17:32
we are jealous of their sucess
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Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 17:39
I own and enjoy all their albums up to and including The Joshua Tree (a
desert island album to be sure). At Rattle & Hum and Achtung Baby I
feel they were already on the decline, and upgraded my cassette
versions of these two recordings to CD. Everything after Achtung Baby
is mindless pop (pun intended)...
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 22:40
Cluster One wrote:
I own and enjoy all their albums up to and including The Joshua Tree (a desert island album to be sure). At Rattle & Hum and Achtung Baby I feel they were already on the decline, and upgraded my cassette versions of these two recordings to CD. Everything after Achtung Baby is mindless pop (pun intended)... |
I've always crinded when I've heaerd Rattle and Hum. I've only seen the movie but how different is the recording? It's too "country" music for me. They sound like they're trying too hard to be an American band, which is basically what ended up of them. For that reason I don't like The Joshua Tree as much as their earlier stuff.
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Posted By: nousommedusolei
Date Posted: July 06 2005 at 04:04
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst - http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst
Read this. I didn't like U2 before I read it, but I dislike them even more now.
Keep in mind I don't agree with EVERYTHING this guy says.
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: July 06 2005 at 04:11
One of my all-time favourite bands. Especially the album War, and songs like New year's day, With or without you and Pride are absolute classics.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 06 2005 at 05:57
nousommedusolei wrote:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst - http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst
Read this. I didn't like U2 before I read it, but I dislike them even more now.
Keep in mind I don't agree with EVERYTHING this guy says.
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One of my friends (who hates U2) told me about this site, but i never knew the address or went there. This guy who makes fun of U2 is right, though he never elaborates on anything he says and tends to just think up the best comments.
As I said in my first post, I think How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb sucks (except for "City of Blinding Lights," which is U2's best song since something off of Achtung Baby).
And if you hate U2 because of their new stuff, listen to their stuff from the 80's and Achtung Baby. If you have, then you have every right to think they still suck.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 06 2005 at 10:46
Nothing much wrong with U2 (but T2 was better), apart from Bono's dabbling in international politics. And remember they started as a Dublin based Yes-covers band................
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 07 2005 at 05:59
Let it be knownst to all that I give less than a sh*te about Bono's and/or other U2 members' political personal views...but I was just reading the cover story about U2's guitarist, The Edge in Guitar World (go figure), and he said something that pissed me off a lot. I should have expected this...but I didn't. By the way, Guitar World in no way respects nor represents prog in any way that I can recognize thus far.
GW: Even so,did you feel as if you were, to some degree, outsiders? The ethos of Seventies punk rock was so anti-rock star-anti-big.
The Edge: It wasn't so much anti-rock star as it was anti-sh*te music. Punk rock was a response to all the boring, pretentous bands. It was about getting back to essentials and remembering what rock and roll was all about--that it should be political and it should have passion; that it should play a social role in the community, and that it affects peoples' lives. It sure affected my life. I'm convinced that the worst thing that ever happened to rock was the whole Seventies progressive-rock, jazz-fusion period. Music got up it's own arse. No passion It was real naval-gazing crap.
Now, I should have expected this from someone who was influence by punk rock. But...NO PASSION! Just shut your mouth and play your echoed guitar and pretend that you still make good music. Your glory days are over!
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 07 2005 at 06:11
nousommedusolei wrote:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst - http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst
Read this. I didn't like U2 before I read it, but I dislike them even more now.
Keep in mind I don't agree with EVERYTHING this guy says.
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Let me get this right. Some Bozo has a real bash at U2 and as a consequence you like U2 even less?
sorry I don't get it!
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 07 2005 at 06:17
Painful mainstream. Binary. Typically 80's FM rock.
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Posted By: Poxx
Date Posted: July 07 2005 at 15:31
I don't think it is because they do not make progressive rock music, it is rather much likely that it is because they make simple pop music.
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