I have no problems with the team going ahead and adding the band while I was sleeping the angel's sleep, Dean. In fact, I was very pleased with the team. I got a massive amount of respect for Atomic and Ivan and trust them to do the right thing(s). I did get the eval files and added my Yes later on.

In any case; this is irrellevant. We only need two votes to get an addition through. Which we got in this case. So the maths is spot on here. 2 votes is an addition.   

So if a team member is being run over by a bus and obviously is not able to communicate this to the rest of the team from a morgue, ProgArchives cannot function in other words and breaks down ? 

Please clarify if the Admins has imposed a ban on the Symph Prog team members from passing away.

You're a real funny guy. Out of respect for the departed team member we would permit the team to function as best they could, assuming they where more intent on evaluating bands than mourning their colleague. Obviously the team would need to find a replacement as soon as is practical.

Dean wrote: You're a real funny guy. Out of respect for the departed team member we would permit the team to function as best they could, assuming they where more intent on evaluating bands than mourning their colleague. Obviously the team would need to find a replacement as soon as is practical.

How would you know if the team member had departed ? For all Ivan and Atom knew, I was dead, indisposed or simply abstaining from voting when the eval was done. 

  In any case; you have known about our voting rules now since I joined the team months ago. You have seen us operating under this rule for the last ten additions. Why reacting now on the eleventh'ish addition ?   

I do not want a long debate going because I have interviews and reviews to add.  

.......rules the team has followed in this case to every letter and dots because the Team does not know if the third team member is dead, indisposed or abstaining. 

And a happy Sunday morning to you too.

I think Dean is alluding to the prospect of introducing http://www.mr-lee-catcam.de/cc_index_en.htm" rel="nofollow - this in all the teams and for the rest of the team & the Admins to enjoy things like watching http://www.mr-lee-catcam.de/pe_cc_u.htm" rel="nofollow - this 

The rule btw says:

4.1.1 Three-man team = 2 Yes votes, 0 No votes

0 No votes normally means the 3rd member is either dead or indisposed (holiday, work, at sleep etc etc etc). Scott and Ivan was acting correctly according to this rule.

I would also allude Dean to the many cleared but not added bands now in the teams. I think that is a big problem which should be adressed by everyone. 

My point is that an accidental or a deliberate 0 vote means the 2 team members does have access to the 3rd member.  We are not sitting in a room together and the two other members does not have any means to understand if the 0 vote is down to death or the team member just being temporary indisposed. While we establish the status of the third member, the team will be frozen, disabled and out of business and ProgArchives disabled from offering a good service.    

That is my whole point here. Scott and Ivan was right.    

For most of us, life is not long enough to see suggested bands being added to the database.   

Anyway.......... Let's move on and I am taking ExitTheLemming's point on board as the valid point it is. 

Please do Dean.

I think ExitTheLemmings also raised a very valid point. It is a good idea if two Pacific rim team members let an European member at least wake up and jump into some suitable clothes before closing the vote. Let me stress that I was very pleased and is very pleased with what the Pacific rim members Scott and Ivan did. But for further voting, it is maybe not such a bad idea to set a minimum vote time to 24 or 36 hours where the members are geographic distributed in such a wide area. That would have spared us from two pages here. 

When that is said, I also believe a maximum vote time as in 4 or 6 months from suggest to addition is very appropriate before the Admins gets involved in the matter by enforcing a vote and/or an addition if appropriate. We see some "where is my suggestion/band ?" threads now which may indicate where the swan is buried.  

So if you could putt in minimum to maximum vote and addition time in our rulebook too, that would be grand.

Edit: Sorry, I did not see the post above when posting. 

Dean wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: The problem is having to register in Mindawn (As you said) and having to receive their spam. But two votes are enough, he's accepted, I will make his bio in a couple of days. Iván Ah. Well. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73146&PID=3942753#3942753" rel="nofollow - Two votes are not enough - if Torodd had voted "No" then the band would be rejected. Of course I have little doubt that he would have voted "Yes" but it would have been better to wait for him to wake up and give an opinion before pushing on with the addition.

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