A symphonic prog band made of black members
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Topic: A symphonic prog band made of black members
Posted By: The_Jester
Subject: A symphonic prog band made of black members
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 17:51
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I was thinking of how rare this is and of the fact that I know none. I would like you to help me find some symphonic prog (or even eclectic or crossover or heavy prog) bands wich are made of black people.
Like classic prog bands made of afroamericans. ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:34
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Thread closed in 10,9,8.... ------------- 
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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:41
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Why? Can't I ask about afroamerican or african or whathever prog band made of black people for my personal culture. It's just that I find it rare, maybe it's not. ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:47
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I know a lot of black musicians in prog bands but not of an exclusively black band. ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:48
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I don't think it's racist to point out something rather obvious and ask why and axe(bad joke bad joke) who are the exceptions?
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:48
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Tons if JR/F counts. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:49
Me neither, but someone is bound to get offended. But yea, JRF has tons. -------------
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Slartibartfast wrote:Posted By: TheMasterMofo
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:49
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Tosin Abasi in Animals as Leaders immediately comes to mind. Other than that, I can think of Jimi Hendrix (Personally I consider him progressive as he did a lot of things that weren't being done during his time)... Honestly I can't think of many, either. Metal bands like F5, Stuck Mojo, Rage Against the Machine, and Killswitch Engage, all have one or more black members. There's a local artist where I live who plays really awesome proggy music and is black; he's one of the few local artists I actually enjoy listening to. Race isn't really important in life, but I can see where it's worth pointing out that black people in prog are a bit of a rarity. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:50
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David Sancious certainly bears mention, but I don't think he's played in an all black guys prog band.
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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:50
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How about Osibisa?
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:51
Joseph Rowntree Foundation? 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:51
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In JRf there is the band Osibisa. There are jazz fusion artists in PA that are black, of couse, such as Miles Davis and Herbie Hancock, just to choose two of the biggest names, and one night consider the groups they worked with as bands -- for instance, the Mwandishi group, bit then it depends on what you would classify as a band and what can be considered Prog. There are many black jazzers in PA who worked on Fusion albums and in electric jazz, but I don't consider itjem to be Prog genre artists even though I think they are perfect for JRF. I'm having problems typing on my iPod now and wrote much the same thing before, but accidentally deleted it. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 18:58
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There's a lot of black band in jazz-rock/fusion but my real point (sorry for not specifying it :) ) is that I was trying to find some symphonic prog (or even crossover, ecletctic or heavy prog) bands made of black members (or even just one). ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 19:00
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 19:07
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 19:09
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From what I can tell, there aren't any in our database (symphonic, anyway).
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 23:15
| Cymande, not symphonic but on the site |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: October 27 2011 at 23:18
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 08:41
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A symphonic prog band made of black members, I would say is extremely rare, especially given the current attitude of the music industry executives. These folks are very visually oriented. To them, a symphonic prog band doesn't look like Kool and the Gang. Bands like this have had to go the jazz/fusion route or under made up genres like "space funk" or some other kind of nonsense. David Sancious and Tone came close but had limited recognition and limited push from the record company, probably because of that visual thing (or something even more sinister). A group like Mandre might fit but again their sound may have had to appeal to a broader market (folks have got to eat you know). |
Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 10:03
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Mandré is really cool! And your opinion is just what I thought about the music industry. There must have been black symphonic prog band but they probably got rejected because they ''did not fit esthetically''. That's horrible, racism in our today society... ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 10:27
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I checked all Symphonic bands, and I can assuire you there's no band formed exclusively by black members. I believe that ANIMA MUNDI from Cuba, actual formation has two members of black inheritance. Iván
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 10:45
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It would seem to be rare.....I can immediately suggest the Art Ensemble of Chicago, who were a fusion of funk, jazz and world music. Quite remarkable. My friend Mychael Pollard is heavily influenced by symphonic prog including Yes and ELP, he just posted this video to his Facebook page. Mychael plays nearly any instrument and is quite an impressive young talent!! |
Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 12:39
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Anima Mundi is fantastic! One band I need to add to my discography. ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 14:09
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I changed the metadata on my Parliament albums to symphonic prog genre......so there. -------------   
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 14:42
In 2007 I went to Varadero in Cuba (Really fun place and extremely cheap), and read somewhere that Anima Mundi was playing in La Habana, so rented a car and went o see them, what a show, great music, sadly La Habana is a depressive city full of prostitution and poverty, but Anima Mundi was worth the trip.. Iván -------------
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 14:47
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Although not remotely symphonic (more hard rock/psyche/jazz) I'm surprised that Living Colour are not on PA
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 14:56
Parliament's 1970 debut album, Osmium, sounds pretty proggy to me in places, as does the, of course related, Funkakelic debut album of the same year (and others). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 14:57
I'm not surprised that Living Colour are not on PA  ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 15:35
^ they were suggested in Feb 11 but clearly flatly rejected. BTW I heartily loathe Living Colour but always thought Vernon Reid's shred credentials might sway some of the PA brethren
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 28 2011 at 16:01
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I have always liked Living Colour.......some excellent stuff those guys put out. -------------
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Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 16:07
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There is one called "Automatic Man" All weren't black though. it included Bayete Todd Cochran :Keyboardist Pat Thrall : Guitars Doni Harvey : Bass (1976 release) Michael Shrieve : Drums, Electronic Impakt Drums (1976) Jerome Rimson : Bass (1977 release) Glynn Symmons : Drums (1977 release)     |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 17:24
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Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 19:57
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And you also have my work as well!
Go ahead and check out my links!!! www.youtube.com/myke21 www.reverbnation.com/mykepollard Here's Emerson,Lake & Palmer's Manticore from the Tarkus Suite (1971) ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 20:02
^ Interesting.
 Oh welcome aboard Myke, btw.  ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 20:05
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^ That was brilliant, I was hugely impressed (and I'm a shameless Emerson fanboy) The only thing that spoiled the vid was the bottom end is very boomy and slightly distorted.
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Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 20:05
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Here's some "Automatic Man" goodies!!!! ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 20:08
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Sorry about that. I've figured out a better to capture my work on vids now. so no unwanted "Sonic Booms" lol ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 20:18
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Here's an unreleased gem that I composed on
October 23-24 2003 called "Nightmare Suite" I wasn't so up to date on recording digital, this was mostly done analog. I had just graduated from high school in Washington, DC. So, what do y'all think???? ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 20:21
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Also here's a live recording from a show I did at Twins Jazz early this year in May!!!! This is called "Cygnus" Let the good time roll y'all!!!! Peace ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 20:54
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PA friends, please give Mychael Pollard a warm welcome to the site, this cat SERIOUSLY rocks!! I met Mychael via his collaboration with John Goodsall (a work in progress). http://www.reverbnation.com/mykepollard" rel="nofollow - http://www.reverbnation.com/mykepollard
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Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 21:41
Thanks a million' Stack!!!!!!! !!!!!!------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 21:44
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Another Live clip of my work in Washington DC's Twins Jazz!!! Enjoy!!!! ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 21:47
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What does it matter anyway? ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 29 2011 at 22:42
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Here's a Brand X clip of a jam called "Measure the Sky" w/John Goodsall : Guitars Bill Bruford : Drums Doni Harvey : Bass Bayete Todd Cochran : Keyboards ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 14:40
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Here's a tiny bit of the Art Ensemble of Chicago live, they have a "King Crimson Gone Wild" sax thing going on! Reminds me of the solo break in "21st Century Schizoid Man"!!
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Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 20:58
Heavy Stuff There!!!!!! I heard about these cats but never seen any live footage of their work until now! ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Myke_P
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 23:05
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Here's a clip that was captured inside a piano room at American University in Washington, DC!!!! Enjoy!!!! ------------- Myke P was here. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: November 02 2011 at 01:19
Welcome Myke!
Man you can play, delightful piano solo, love those classical influences, very Emersonian. The Nightmare Suite is serious stuff too. Keep on progging!
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Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 08:15
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it's not racism but rather cliche of music industry coined with social background. |
Posted By: daslaf
Date Posted: November 07 2011 at 14:26
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I really don't know if there exists somethig like that... outside of prog, it was pretty funny seeing Jeff Scott Soto singing "I am a Viking" when he was on Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force... ------------- But now my branches suffer And my leaves don't bear the glow They did so long ago |