Digitally remastered vinyls?
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Topic: Digitally remastered vinyls?
Posted By: Dellinger
Subject: Digitally remastered vinyls?
Date Posted: August 12 2011 at 21:35
| I read that Pink Floyd is releasing some new vinyl editions of Dark Side, Wish you were Here, and The Wall, along with their campaign of "Wy Pink Floyd?". However, they said they would be digital remasters... now, I don't know so much about this technical things, but doesn't a digital remaster kill the point of relesing the albums on vinyl? I thought the advantage of vinyl is that it records the whole spectrum of sound, instead of choosing how many bits you want to use to represent that sound. |
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 10:25
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Yes and no. As a format CD kills vinyl in every way possible. BUT WAIT!!!! I'M OBSESSED WITH VINYL SO DON'T JUMP ON ME!!! So as I was saying, CD as a format kills vinyl in every way actually. But you are correct that it defeats the purpose. A true audiophile (rather than someone who is just nostalgic) is listening to vinyl because of the original mixes, often much less compressed. Had the original masters been taken to CD they'd be superior, but the people producing the music for the remasters always butcher it and make it TOO LOUD to keep with modern times. So yes it defeats the purpose, but no vinyl isn't actually superior from an audio standpoint. ------------- Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell? I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 10:33
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You also may not have a choice if vinyl is your preferred method of listening (as mine is). Unless your first issue of DSOtM has been played sparingly (which I doubt) it probably is worn out after 40yrs. So most of what is available is the newer remastered pressings.....I have not played my first issue of DSOtM in 15yrs. Only play CD or digital versions, although I did buy the 35th anniversary edition and am beyond pleased with its sound and performance......it pretty much rivals any CD version I have.
I would be interested in WYWH and The Wall for sure......my original Wall copy still sounds excellent, but I don't play it that often.......I am trying to save all my "old" albums for my kids. -------------   
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 10:37
Digital vinyl is an oxymoron  ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Owlmageddon
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 18:53
 it certainly is |
Andyman1125 wrote:Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 19:37
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Theoretically something could be remastered digitally to make the vinyl product a better listening experience than the original but why bother?
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 19 2011 at 20:04
I'm sure SW will do it eventually ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 20 2011 at 02:37
Theoretically? This frequently happens, from minimizing hiss, hum and so on to making better compression and EQing with modern mastering equipment. Vinyl to me just does not sound any better really. There are aspects to a listening experience that are desirable that make it feel more comfortable or organic (snap, crackle and pop, etc.) but really vinyl overall in an inferior format. CD and lossless formats are better for storing media. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 20 2011 at 13:43
Better?  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: August 20 2011 at 19:43
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Sometimes there is no choice but to go digital. Blood and Fire and Pressure Soundes the Independant record labels when they released many of the old Reggae tunes with some of the stuff there was only ever 500 pressings and what they could get was full of surface noise and had to cleaned off. Once you do that there is no going back but they did the sound great anyway being Reggae the bass is all there. I buy the cd once this has been done, same thing and you don't have to turn it over and clean it constanly.
If it is to be reissued on record it should be the exact of the original or I am not interested and as I said might as well get the cd. ------------- Matt |
Posted By: paamlogs
Date Posted: August 21 2011 at 15:36
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A different mastering process is used when pressing vinyl so even if both the CD and vinyl sources are from the same digital workflow the master for the vinyl may be preferable as it will typically have less compression and retain more of the dynamic range. Vinyls can't physically handle the levels of compression that can be squeezed into a digital file.
I listen to all my music as lossless digital files taken from my cd collection but Ive taken to getting vinyl rips taken from high quality gear and 9/10 times I prefer them over the digital masters. This is especially the case for Radiohead and Crowded House albums which sound amazing on vinyl (especially In Rainbows). The MFSL vinyl pressing of DSoTM from the 80s is the best i have ever heard that album. And remember, even though this is a digital remaster they will be working at high sampling rates to retain dynamic range and still use nice analog hardware to master with. Digital just gives you alot more power and flexibility for cleaning up the mixes 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: August 21 2011 at 20:53
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I have many vinyl reissues that sound better than the CD versions I have. Certainly CD issues for the most part are the best format and preferred manner of listening to music...hands down. Although anything past about '95 can be pretty bad, compressed to the point of shrill!!! Yikes........Also those issues wear on your hearing quite a bit, makes you tired of listening and can give you a headache for sure, digital files do this to me all the time.
Vinyl is hard work.....but to me better end results come from hard work.......and I think CD's are boring. I prefer vinyl but I listen and buy all formats.
Not too much better than this on vinyl.......
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Posted By: Drudelo
Date Posted: August 27 2011 at 23:30
| I buy vinyls partly for the enjoyment of collecting them and additionally to hear the albums in an un-remastered form. |