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Topic: RIP Amy WinehousePosted By: jammun
Subject: RIP Amy Winehouse
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 13:02
Well, I guess this cements her place as the Janis Joplin of her era.
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Replies: Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 13:05
Whoaa that was a shocking thing to read. I've never actually heard a song from her but of course know about her drug problems etc. Tragic news to say the least.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 13:05
Back to Black is one of my favorite pop albums. RIP
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 14:13
Tragic news indeed. I was not a fan, but I found her fascinating somehow...
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
Often indeed. Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, ...
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 14:38
someone_else wrote:
Tragic news indeed. I was not a fan, but I found her fascinating somehow...
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
Often indeed. Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, ...
Jim Morrison too.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 14:40
^Yep. I forgot to mention him indeed.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 14:44
Snow Dog wrote:
Didn't like her music at all and this is no great shock either.
Sorry to say it, but I can't argue with this at all. Extremely sad waste of a young talent, no matter how much I disliked her music.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 14:45
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
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Spooky.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 14:47
Tragic loss of a young talented person. She was different and the world needs different not same.
Posted By: EchidnasArf
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 15:06
She obviously should have said "Yes."
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 15:44
Another victim of the music industry in my book.
Didn't much like her as an artist, but always sad to see someone climb onboard the rush express to self destruction. And she had talent, there's no denying that. A tragedy for her, for her friends, family and fans.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 15:57
Epignosis wrote:
Back to Black is one of my favorite pop albums. RIP
It is sad indeed that she never found hapiness and that we will never get another album like this^ which was truly brilliant.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 16:07
stonebeard wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
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Spooky.
Maybe 27 is an individuals most reckless age in terms of risk, still young enough to think you are immortal and the liver just rebounds too well for some individuals to take any notice.....Spooky for sure though.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 17:27
currently watching on TV a performance of hers during Eurockéennes in 2007 : great voice and excellent music (ska, reggae, doo wop, soul, gospel), but three glasses of whisky within half an hour
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 17:33
lazland wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Didn't like her music at all and this is no great shock either.
Sorry to say it, but I can't argue with this at all. Extremely sad waste of a young talent, no matter how much I disliked her music.
I wasn't a fan either, but I respected her musical talent. So sad she left so early. RIP
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 17:38
I'm not a fan of her music, but sure he had a great voice.
It really shocked me, I knew her condition was deteriorating too fast (Apart from the addiction, she had emphysema), it's sad, she entered to the 27 years club with people like:
Jim Morrison
Janis Joplin
Jimmy Hendrix
Curt Cobain (Nirvana)
Brian Jones (Rolling Stones)
Ron Mc'Kernan (Grateful Dead)
Helmut Kollen (Triumvirat)
Gary Thain (Uriah Heep)
Alan Wilson (Canned Heat)
Pete Ham (Bad Finger
Shanon Hoon (Blind Melon)
Steven Gaines (Lynyrd Skyynyrd)
Kristen Pfaff (Hole)
Les Harvey (Stone the Crows)
Robert Johnson (Blues musician who started the tragic list in 1938)
Among many more.
Rest in Peace Amy.
Iván
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 17:58
Really gutted to hear this news. I loved Amy Winehouse's music and her voice. I was hoping for a come-back but sadly not to be. Now her struggle to find happiness in her life is over. God Bless! RIP Amy
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 18:26
Not a fan of her voice, her repertoire and her lifestyle but it's sad indeed. I hope you find peace, Amy.
Anyway, I'm really anger with the quick change of focus by the press. The tragedy in Norway needs reflection and the media is dealing with this case as it were only a sensation to be highlighted - not a surprise since media owners and bosses are basically are made with the same stuff of the shooter.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 18:36
Very talented voice, that soulful sound she had was something special. Not many around now that can sing like her, tragic she could not get her life in order.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 23 2011 at 23:05
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
It seems to be like a threshold, like the age where bodies that have been abused for too long finally give up... Probably most of these artists started abusing drugs or alcohol at around 16-18 or even a few years later, they achieve fame money and power, and they can't last more than a few years, "peaking" at 27...
RIP
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 00:09
Don't know her music at all, and can't say this is a surprise in the least. As someone said earlier, kind of amazing it took this long.
Is always sad though, especially to think how you can be so young and have so many demons. Clearly had some pretty deep issues.
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 02:41
zappaholic wrote:
I'm surprised it took her this long to do herself in.
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 05:56
Wasn't her whole claim to fame songs about drug abuse?
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 06:49
Drugs kill
Here is the proof
RIP Amy
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 06:54
She was a deeply disturbed soul
Her songs communicated a deep inner sadness.
I read, while being interviewed by Spin magazine, she broke off talking to carve her then-boyfriend Blake Fielder-Civil's name into her stomach with a shard of mirror.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 11:16
Slartibartfast wrote:
Wasn't her whole claim to fame songs about drug abuse?
Brian that's two totally useless posts in 24 hours... Come on.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 11:20
The T wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Wasn't her whole claim to fame songs about drug abuse?
Brian that's two totally useless posts in 24 hours... Come on.
What the hell were you expecting from me anyway???
Try this one on, we all have difficulties in our lives. If our ultimate destiny is to become famous and die young, so be it. I will do neither and have myself a good time not doing it.
Just make sure you do it right the first time because nothing is worse than being a suicide chump.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 11:26
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 13:53
Such a waste.
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: July 24 2011 at 13:55
Slartibartfast wrote:
Wasn't her whole claim to fame songs about drug abuse?
"They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no no no"
Wonderful. Just wonderful...
Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 05:30
I wasn't too keen on her music myself, but that's because it just wasn't to my tastes rather than it being objectively bad - I could tell she had a fearsome talent on her.
Probably the saddest part of this story for me is how incredibly unsurprised I was when I read the news. It's been, what, five years since her last album, and she spent most of that getting more attention for her drug problems than for her music.
The tabloid headlines about it this morning are absolutely disgusting.
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 05:48
She was great, and i loved the way she made a very old style of female singing, famous again.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 14:47
She wasn't always out of it and when she was with us ...
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 14:59
tamijo wrote:
She was great, and i loved the way she made a very old style of female singing, famous again.
Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 15:08
Once again with another dead artist at 27. I was personally not a fan of her music but no one deserves to die that young. RIP
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Posted By: criticdrummer94
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 15:09
JJLehto wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Wasn't her whole claim to fame songs about drug abuse?
"They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no no no"
Wonderful. Just wonderful...
She probably should have gone to rehab it probably would have saved us from talking about it
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 18:26
My wife has informed that she did actually go to rehab.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 18:30
She did go to rehab but her agent made her do it just in "preparation for her tour" not actually discouraging her drug use. Pretty sick, if you ask me and a waste of such great talent. Minus the substance abuse problems Amy seemed to be a truly eccentric and loveable person.
Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 21:29
The Truth wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I do think it's sad, but ultimately we all make our own choices and it kind of bugs me to see people blaming the record industry.
Even when they only made her rehab in preparation for a tour? That's kind of their fault amirite?
I mean sure "she's the one who took them" but without anybody slapping her hand telling her no, why on earth would she think it was wrong?
I think there's enough documented horror-stories and negativity regarding drug abuse is not something to mess around with. Unless she lived under a rock before she began consuming these substances, she really didn't need her hand slapped to tell her drugs are dangerous.
There were probably people in her life convincing her to get help, but obviously the demons of addiction are too overpowering for some.
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 21:30
The Truth wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I do think it's sad, but ultimately we all make our own choices and it kind of bugs me to see people blaming the record industry.
Even when they only made her rehab in preparation for a tour? That's kind of their fault amirite?
I mean sure "she's the one who took them" but without anybody slapping her hand telling her no, why on earth would she think it was wrong?
Um, because everyone knows that if you take as many drugs as she took you will die. She was a laughingstock and no one was surprised when she died at such a young age. She had to have been aware of her reputation.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 22:07
The Truth wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I do think it's sad, but ultimately we all make our own choices and it kind of bugs me to see people blaming the record industry.
Even when they only made her rehab in preparation for a tour? That's kind of their fault amirite?
I mean sure "she's the one who took them" but without anybody slapping her hand telling her no, why on earth would she think it was wrong?
What planet do you live on where there is not a social and medical stigma against illegal drugs (and going way too far with the legal ones)? Did you miss that we've been in a "war on drugs" for the past 40 years? If you want to dissipate blame, it seems she was struggling with mental illness, which was certainly a major contributing factor to her death, and maybe the people around her could have supported her better through that, I didn't know her, so I can't say. Unfortunately, there's only so much that can be forcibly done to help an adult who doesn't want help. But your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 23:31
Henry Plainview wrote:
The Truth wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I do think it's sad, but ultimately we all make our own choices and it kind of bugs me to see people blaming the record industry.
Even when they only made her rehab in preparation for a tour? That's kind of their fault amirite?
I mean sure "she's the one who took them" but without anybody slapping her hand telling her no, why on earth would she think it was wrong?
What planet do you live on where there is not a social and medical stigma against illegal drugs (and going way too far with the legal ones)? Did you miss that we've been in a "war on drugs" for the past 40 years? If you want to dissipate blame, it seems she was struggling with mental illness, which was certainly a major contributing factor to her death, and maybe the people around her could have supported her better through that, I didn't know her, so I can't say. Unfortunately, there's only so much that can be forcibly done to help an adult who doesn't want help. But your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
I was mainly pointing out that the record company was in no way stepping in and interfering with Amy's drug problem and it was in response to thellama73's post. I'm not dissipating blame, she had a major problem, I'm just saying that the record industry was not completely innocent as he had said.
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 23:33
thellama73 wrote:
The Truth wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
I do think it's sad, but ultimately we all make our own choices and it kind of bugs me to see people blaming the record industry.
Even when they only made her rehab in preparation for a tour? That's kind of their fault amirite?
I mean sure "she's the one who took them" but without anybody slapping her hand telling her no, why on earth would she think it was wrong?
Um, because everyone knows that if you take as many drugs as she took you will die. She was a laughingstock and no one was surprised when she died at such a young age. She had to have been aware of her reputation.
I'm saying she needed help, she needed to not be making music and take a break. Her agents wanted her to make money. I'm saying she doesn't deserve all of the blame.
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 23:35
To clarify, yes she was a messed-up individual. She needed loads of help. thellama37 said that he hated seeing blame going towards the record company. I was saying they weren't entirely innocent.
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: July 25 2011 at 23:37
I was kinda just horrified those lyrics were so popular. Not even sure how to feel about it.
I do know she went to rehab, (wasn't too much my point really) but honestly she was doomed. It is sad indeed, to be so tormented and suffer such a fate so young, for anyone.
Posted By: ctripathy
Date Posted: July 26 2011 at 01:21
sad that the industry put their money in front of her life. i mean sure she could have told her agent that she wanted to stay in rehab, but her career would have been stunted. pretty sad choice: future in life or future in career.
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 26 2011 at 08:45
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
Small sample size.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 26 2011 at 09:10
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
Small sample size.
So you don't believe in curses, then?
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 26 2011 at 12:56
thellama73 wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
Small sample size.
So you don't believe in curses, then?
Let's say I do not have enough information to reject the Null hypothesis that there are no curses.
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: July 26 2011 at 13:09
Her passing is just such a tragic, tragic waste of life. According to those who knew her, she was a true gem before the drugs/alcohol took & destroyed her. Very attentative and brilliant with people. Just the person who lightens up her surroundings and make people very happy. When she was sober, that is.
I am not an expert on her music. But Back In Black is supposed to be a classic album and I may purchase a copy one day. She was capable to release some more classic albums, the experts says.
In short, what a waste of life and another good reason to detest drugs with a burning passion.
R.I.P
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: July 26 2011 at 20:31
thellama73 wrote:
Um, because everyone knows that if you take as many drugs as she took you will die.
Unless you're Keith Richards. Then you're immortal.
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: August 01 2011 at 06:45
There is going to be a movie that plays on this theme of rock stars dying at age 27?
Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: August 01 2011 at 07:24
Watched the dvd last night LIVE IN LONDON
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: August 01 2011 at 08:58
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Why is it so often 27 years old?
Small sample size.
So you don't believe in curses, then?
Let's say I do not have enough information to reject the Null hypothesis that there are no curses.
Teo may have something with the whole idea that about 10 years of really heavy abuse to your body might be all the organism can take. You'd expect a cluster though with 25-30 being the usual time.
I remember Axl Rose giving a big Rolling Stone interview in the early 90's where he said he almost died at 27 also.
Addiction is a terrible thing. RIP.
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