Worst Albums On PA?
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Topic: Worst Albums On PA?
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Subject: Worst Albums On PA?
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 14:41
I've heard some of the best, but I was wondering- perhaps out of morbid fascination- what are the worst albums on PA? Be it the lowest rated, or simply the worst music here? 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 14:43
| Some people will say http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=32855" rel="nofollow - this is |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 14:52
well apparently 1 out of 3 people think differently
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Triceratopsoil wrote:Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 14:59
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Most of the people who would say it's the worst haven't bothered to rate it
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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:04
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Does this also include demo tapes ? Well, I reviewed and then sold a Abigor demo again and bought a vacuum cleaner for the money. The difference is that the vacuum cleaner is more musical than that demo + it is a very good vacuum cleaner too. You cannot go wrong with a Dyson vacuum cleaner. |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:08
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:19
Just had my best laugh of the day.I've heard one Abigor album, and it was actually very good; although it was their latest one. I would say just studio albums, because its taken for granted that demos aren't all too bright for the most part. I remember hearing a Triumvirat album that made me puke.
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:24
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Conor, you should totally review SABA. I probably will at some point. -------------  |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:27
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From Genesis To Revelation
Union
Giant For A Day
St. Anger
...about 1753 more
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:46
A krautrock record called Beak>, which is a collaboration between the drummer from Portishead and two other dudes. This record tries too hard to be kraut - it´s motorik, improvised and dull. No feel whatsoever, and certainly you can use that as an uncomfortable segment in the songs, but when it just goes on and on... It´s not that it is badly played or it doesn´t contain ideas, but the overall result is just meh and grey. Like licking a lamppost trying to distinguish a flavor. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:54
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Those people are probably right. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:58
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I'm going to go out on a real limb here and say F#A#Infinity. I know it has a 4+ average here but it is definitely the worst album I've ever heard, just that bit worse that Torman Maxt's The Problem with Pain and Queensryches Operation Mindcrime II.
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:01
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This is the worst album ever made. http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=476519" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=476519
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:07
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Worst album I've ever reviewed on PA is Matching Mole's début from 1971.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:15
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Although I enjoy a fair slice of John Zorn´s music, and it has recently gotten some kind words, I do really detest Leng Tch´e And yes that Torman Maxt album was an atrocious album as well, even if it was a free download... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: KingCrimson250
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:22
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Interesting thread. I wonder how long it will last before a deluge of People Who Think They're Clever will start posting links to Dream Theater albums (my money's on ToT being the most linked-to, with maybe Systematic Chaos in there as well and a nice Honourable Mention to WDADU). The worst prog album I've ever heard (in my fairly limited experience) is probably KC's Earthbound. The music itself isn't terrible, but the production is unbearably awful. You can't even listen to it. I've got live recordings from the 30s and 40s that put this album to shame. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:44
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 17:05
| lol |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 17:08
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a lot of progressive rock music is forgettable. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 17:09
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One of my faves in Kraut ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 17:12
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I've tried three times to listen to Snowfall on Judgment Day and each time almost killed myself. Somehow people like it, but I don't get it. I like a lot of progressive metal, but this is completely generic and melodramatic. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24618" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24618 |
Posted By: Nathaniel607
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 18:17
But come on, even if it is generic, that doesn't make it THE WORST ALBUM PA. That just sounds like you're describing a bad to mediocre album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nathaniel607" rel="nofollow - My Last FM Profile 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 18:43
All of them?  I mean prog is krapp......but at least its better than everything else right now in music  -------------   
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Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 18:52
goddamnit that exactly what I was going to do!   ------------- 
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Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 19:33
 .... *gulp*you don't mean... "Russian Roulette" .... ------------- 
Dust in the Kitchen |
Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 19:35
I completely agree with you regarding the album. I love most of redemption's stuff but man this album I just don't know man -------------
Dust in the Kitchen |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 20:23
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St Anger, from Metallica. Simply disgusting.
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 20:45
Wow, that is a really terrible sounding piece of work. Great review though ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:10
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The four "Parachute Years" albums by John Zorn (Lacrosse, Hockey, Pool, and Archery) are all pretty bad. Good luck sitting though one of those. Not to disrespect Zorn, of course. But those albums suck. ------------- |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:17
Oh you.  I see what people hate in it though, I've just got weird taste. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:20
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=473190" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=473190 Hahahaha. See Conor. I told you to brace yourself. I also see it seems to have made a big impact on you. Give those Gigantic Brain releases a listen, the first one not so much, but the ones after will help cleanse your eardrums. ------------- 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:21
| I still want a SABA review from Conor. |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:34
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I thought my record label had released the worst album ever. The recording was a shamble. The drummer...... let's say his drumming was "innovative" to the the extreme. The album is a pre-pre-demo although recorded in a pro studio. Not even the threat of torture will bring myself to listen to this album again. Just the thought about this album makes me cringe. I braced myself for the reviews........... which was very positive. Some even branded it as a classic album and someone is now re-releasing it. To say that I was/is shocked is a gross understatement. What I brand dirt is someone else's diamond. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:45
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Oh my god, I forgot about Leng T'che. I think that takes the take as the worst.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:46
| I like that album :P |
Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: July 05 2011 at 23:53
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Hmmmmm........... Nobody has so far mentioned a certain US band whose interview I did with them and albums created the collective highest blood pressure ProgArchives has ever experienced. Maybe best to forget this......
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 00:01
Word. People tend to cite this as famously hateable but I've never heard it: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24522" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24522 ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 00:27
I sampled a track, and indeed it sucks. ------------- |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 01:03
Someone mentioned them on the first page but, surprisingly, no blatant bashing. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 01:41
Surprised the usual suspects like Love Beach or Invisible Touch haven't been bashed yet. Anyway, Timeline is, like, several times worse than these or Civilian or Big Generator...and badly produced too. From the prog related section, I pick St Anger and Born Again (Gillan's most embarassing performances on this album). 
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 02:36
I will listen to St. Anger repeatedly until my ears bleed before playing any of these dogs that somehow made their way onto our humble home.   ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 02:41
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That Genesis logo annoys me. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: KarmaMan
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 04:24
| I dunno, considering their relatively high profile, something by Camel should fit the bill. Late to the party with generic anodyne, innocuous mush. I nominate the Snow Goose though it could easily have been Moon Madness. Unbelievably this stuff was released in '75 and '76 respectively, where had they been? Make Renaissance sound like King Crimson. Elevator music. |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 05:00
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 05:01
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I think St. Anger is really overrated as a terrible album, but what do I know, I actually like the sound of the trashcan drums...
No. This discussion inherently is applying "objective" criteria (since the topic is not what albums do you hate the most on PA), and Leng T'che can easily be described as "objectively" better than Simon Railton. Naked City knows what they are doing and want to sound like that, even if you don't like what they want to do. Simon Railton is hopelessly amateur and just really bad (so is Satan Alfa Beel Atem). http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1502" rel="nofollow - Heartscore is another good one of someone who needs to practice more before releasing albums to the world. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 05:14
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Deyss seem to get a lot of hate, even from people who usually like neo-prog. Particularly their debut: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=264" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=264 Personally I'm surprised Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music isn't listed on the site. It's a double album consisting of four long, side-long tracks, depending heavily on unconventional instrumental performances, and which (according to its creator) is replete with references to classical music. We love Tales from Topographic Oceans and Third on here so why no recognition for Lou Reed's most progressive album, his magnum opus in which he masterfully shows his command of his instrument and his compositional abilities to bwahaahahahahahahaha I can't even type it with a straight face.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 05:18
I actually own Metal Machine Music. Unfortunately, it's not as much fun on repeat listenings. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: avantgrind
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 07:27
one of the first noise records, right down my alley. -------------
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 08:21
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I don't get these threads. It's all a matter of taste after all. But bad taste does exist
Leng Tch'e is a pretty good album for doom-metal/drone metal/avant-garde enthusiasts. You can only pretend it's bad if you: 1) like neo-prog or Dream Theater or generic prog metal bands that try too hard to imitate DT 2) can't separate art with a sense of originality from meritless copies (see item 1) 3) have bad taste in music (see item 1)
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Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 09:06
 No explanation other than I also really dislike the coverart - and especially the tacky photographs of the three gentlemen fooling around in the woods that you see within the gatefold. I haven't listened to it for years - so my judgement is not sound. I think there are many candidates for "worst album on PA" and that no thorough comparison with regards to badness really can be made.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 09:11
I own it too. It's pretty good, but I've heard much more engaging noise records. ------------- 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 10:58
If your judgement was sound it would make for a far less appealing listening experience than this album -------------
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:15
Yes me I´ve got some weird tastes as well, but this album just doesn´t work for me. Give me Ummagumma, Trout Mask Replica, Dark Magus or some Residents and I´ll be whistling in your garden wearing a diving suit and a lava brassier. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:21
lol I can't argue. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:23
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Leng Tche is not music. It's not good doom metal. It's not good noise. It just blows. Misanthropic, actively painful to listen to at first but then decaying into monumental boredom. What's more, it's a completely emotional and visceral intent performed completely from the left brain. Monumental failure. http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=269447" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=269447 ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:26
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^Negoba to the rescue! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:29
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Speaking of Trout Mask Replica, I was just reading this old list done for theguardian.co.uk in 2007 where various musicians were asked "to nominate the supposedly great records they'd gladly never hear again", and that is one of those albums listed. So is Dark Side of the Moon, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Pet Sounds, and LA Woman by the Doors. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/jun/15/popandrock" rel="nofollow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/jun/15/popandrock Yes, old news is old news, and I don't expect many would care about such lists, but..... ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:29
You are wrong on all counts. -------------
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:30
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This thread is so silly.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:37
Well everybody´s entitled to their opinion, but music will always be subjective. As long as they´ll let me have my fun with Trout Mask, Dark Side, Pet Sounds and L. A. Woman. I happen to enjoy all of those. I don´t really get why Trout Mask is in there, because unlike all of the others mentioned - it never, and I do mean never gets any airplay, unless you´re plugged into some sort of obscure internet radio. All the others might suffer from serious overplay, not Trout Mask. I think it says more about these musicians, and their tastes if anything. They have probably never liked it, but jumped on the hipster train and all the fabulous reviews alongside the majestic position it sits at after Rolling Stone mentioned it as one of the most important rock albums of all time. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:40
The fact that 43% of the ratings for that album are 5* seems to suggest that this is just your opinion. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:42
So true. DSotM just got overplayed. And LA Woman nearly made my list.
Hating St. Anger was the cool thing to do. I heard all the bashing and thought it had to be even worse than the 90's Metallica albums. When I finally heard it 2 years later I was reminded again of how much people who try to be cool piss me off. Especially when they jump on a bashwagon. By no means is it a masterpiece, but I enjoyed it. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:45
It was an interesting read for me, if only to see how some of the 'other side' think. And of course, what a predictable list of bands to interview, of course most of them are going to trash classic albums. And with, for the most part, some stunningly simplistic and shallow analysis at that. Shouldn't really call some of those 'interviews' 'analysis' either, really. Still, I do agree that 'Pet Sounds' had a few songs that didn't blow me away, along with some stunners. ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - JazzMusicArchives. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:50
There are 8 ratings (now that you've added yours). 2 of the 5 star raters are active in this conversation, and the 2 1 star reviewers are active in this thread. Please don't pull out statistics when the N is so small and you're actively manipulating them.
If it works for you, go ahead and listen to it. That album sat unreviewed for a very long time before I put up my opinion. I personally think it's emperor's new clothes. People trying to fake being cool by pretending to like the most aversive music they can find.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 11:56
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^I totally agree with you.
------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:02
Your opinion isn't rendered any more potent by mocking the tastes of others. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:06
The emperor's new clothes is an incredibly stupid and deeply offensive metaphor to apply to music (well, probably anything, to be honest, but that's a different topic). Where people got the idea that it's OK to claim that someone else must be lying when they like something you don't is beyond me. And I've always thought the story was more about even the rich and powerful emperor being scammed because of his vanity than the common people playing along because they're afraid of him, but whatever... And I'm not terribly familiar with Naked City, but I find most of their output rather dull except for Leng T'che, but I'm a noise hipster.
Yeah, it's just lazy bandwagoning. I don't even like Metallica, but I'm willing to defend them on this one because everyone only jumps to that one because it was such a high profile release. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:14
| Fwiw, Leng Tch'e is easily the best Naked City album I've heard. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:15
It's definitely not as bad as Garage Inc. or either of the Load albums. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:39
I don't like Naked City. Based on all the reviews and descriptions and comparisons I've read about it, I SHOULD like it. But I just don't. -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:42
I'll take "Until it Sleeps" over tin-can, 9-minute dirges. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:44
I won't  although I'd in most cases take neither. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:49
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I like Load and Reload
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Posted By: cannon
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:53
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Here's a album that's really bad:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9308" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=9308
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:56
That's quite the album art, too |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 12:57
Tony R's review of it is priceless |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:00
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It kind of does want to make me hear it just to judge for myself how bad it really is. My luck, I'd probably like it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:05
I wasn't mocking. Some people do, in fact, listen to certain music simply as a component of a personality and image they are creating for themselves. Some folks do this with reasonable intentions. But you can dive so deep that you lose touch with reality.
Leng Tche is at the far end of the spectrum at so many levels that making it work would have been a collossal achievement. The fact that the subject matter itself is on the extremes of human cruelty means that the piece is going to have to prove itself to me that it has earned drawing me in to a realm so dark. I don't want to be tortured personally. If there is something to be gained by exploring that piece of human experience, I'm willing to think about it.
And you must realize that if you say "I personally like representations of the extremes of human cruelty" some eyebrows are going to go up.
------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:32
| You were mocking, by saying something that other people obviously think is a masterpiece or near to one is "the most aversive music they can find." |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:39
Sorry bro but it's a good album. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:39
I don't give a goddamn if it's "original." It's unpleasant to listen to. It's pretentious bullsh*t that people only like because it's "avant" and/or "artsy." I understand what they were trying to do, and it still sucks. I have a lot of respect for Zorn; he's made a lot of great music. But he's made a lot of sh*tty music as well. Get off of the "originality" high horse. Is the music good? Does it move you in some way? If yes, then who cares if something slightly similar has been done before? I could record myself throwing up and layer it on top of the sounds of machine gun fire. I could say that the album is meant to make the listener "feel like they're in the middle of the war disease causes within the human body." It would be original. But it would also suck. ------------- |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:40
| http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=131463" rel="nofollow - Looks like a http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=75912" rel="nofollow - good time to post http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=77983" rel="nofollow - some of Bob's Triumph http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=82196" rel="nofollow - reviews . |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:42
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Okay, so Tony isn't a doom/drone fan either. Those are some nice reviews. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:44
Haha, Tony's review is great. I hadn't read Bob's before either, that's pretty epic.
Congratulations, you have hit every terrible cliche of arguing against avant-garde music you don't like. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:47
| Leng T'che isn't even particularly "avant-garde," it's about as close to run-of-the-mill dronedoom as a jazz musician could make. |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:50
I love pretty much all those you mentioned. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:50
My point is: don't say that I have bad taste simply because I don't like a certain album. ------------- |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:51
It's a piece about extreme pain and cruelty. Of course it's aversive.
Some of the music I like is extremely aversive as well. Strapping Young Lad comes to mind. It's about rage and internalized hate. Sadly, that's an emotion some of us have felt.
Leng T'Che is about the darkest parts of the human soul. Living hell. I object to the premise, and I don't think the execution completed the mission.
What exactly makes this piece redeemable anyway? ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:52
It sounded like your point was that nobody actually likes Leng Tche. Although yeah, Marco shouldn't say you have bad taste, but you shouldn't say he does either. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:52
It's probably redeemable because people have different tastes than you. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:53
That is the opposite of what I am saying. In fact, it is the Leng T'che haters who are saying that when they say anyone who says they like it must be lying. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:54
I never said he did. I'm sure some people genuinely do like it, but I'm also sure that a lot of other people like it for the reasons I mentioned. ------------- |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:55
You didn't say it, Marco did. He chalked this whole thread up to subjective taste and then proceeded to pull the "bad taste" card. ------------- |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:55
| Anyway, why are we talking about Leng T'Che when this thread should be about Delicior Ribbon Pink Beel (Music of Death) |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:58
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Guys, we listen to prog. Don't you realize that we're all the ones with bad taste?
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Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:58
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I apologize for the pseudo flame war I started, but I had to defend myself there.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:58
Even with your qualification, I still find this accusation rather offensive and impossible to prove. Do you have any logical basis for it other than your dislike? And Marco was pretty clearly joking. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 13:58
That album is pretty bad.
I just find it to be an enjoyable avant drone/doom album, although the vocals are somewhat off-putting. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 14:00
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I prefer SABA to Leng T'che.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 06 2011 at 14:01
| They are about equal for me, but that's just my taste. I can in all honesty say that despite my love for it, SABA's album is objectively worse than Leng Tche |