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Topic: My review is gone!Posted By: frippism
Subject: My review is gone!
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 02:41
My review of Tim Smith Tribute album "Leader of the Starry Skies" is gone ! That review was bloody 1600 words! ahhhhhhhh, any help would be appreciated.
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Replies: Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 02:42
My review of Tim Smith tribute album "Leader of the Starry Skies" is gone!!!!! It was 1600 words long! Somebody please help!
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 02:43
My review if Tim Smith tribute album "Leader of the Starry Skies" is gone!! It was 1700 words long!!!! Please any help would be appreciated!!!
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 02:51
My review if Tim Smith tribute album "Leader of the Starry Skies" is gone!! It was 1700 words long!!!! Please any help would be appreciated!!!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 07:46
Have you lost it 4 times?
Seriously, was it ever on PA or did you get an error when you clicked submit? I lost a review once due to an odd character in it, have you checked that?
Also, you should write your reviews in Notepad or Word first, then copy and paste them into PA.
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 11:07
can you provide a link to the album you are talking about and I'll check it out. At the moment though, looking at your list of reviews I cannot see any indication that it was ever there.
Presumably you kept a copy, so you can just post it (again).
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 11:18
This just goes to show the very important message to all users/reviewers:
Save a copy before posting!!
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 11:43
chopper wrote:
Have you lost it 4 times?
He repeats himself when under stress...
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 12:09
Slartibartfast wrote:
chopper wrote:
Have you lost it 4 times?
He repeats himself when under stress...
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 13:04
Slartibartfast wrote:
chopper wrote:
Have you lost it 4 times?
He repeats himself when under stress...
How I am embarassed, look I'm blushing! It's amazing how emoticons pass true emotions...
Every time I posted it said I'm spamming and gave me an error 500 so I assumed it didn't work... apparently it did.
I didn't save a f**king copy! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Sorry for poopy words, but god damn it that review was 1700 words long... I really think I'm about to cry . Look! I did cry...
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 13:06
chopper wrote:
Have you lost it 4 times?
Seriously, was it ever on PA or did you get an error when you clicked submit? I lost a review once due to an odd character in it, have you checked that?
Also, you should write your reviews in Notepad or Word first, then copy and paste them into PA.
The review was there for a while. It was on the homepage, it was on the album page, it was in the list of my reviews... and now it isn't.... Ahhhhh
I learned my lesson the hard way... I should have really stayed in school
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 17 2011 at 22:29
there is a record of your review, but an error occurs when clicked, mysterious ;
../Review.asp?id=457899" rel="nofollow - VARIOUS ARTISTS (TRIBUTES) Leader of the Starry Skies: A Tribute...
Jun 7, 2011... VARIOUS ARTISTS (TRIBUTES) Leader of the Starry Skies: A Tribute to Tim Smith, Songbook 1 music review by frippism. www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=457899
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 00:56
Atavachron wrote:
there is a record of your review, but an error occurs when clicked, mysterious ;
../Review.asp?id=457899" rel="nofollow - VARIOUS ARTISTS (TRIBUTES) Leader of the Starry Skies: A Tribute...
Jun 7, 2011... VARIOUS ARTISTS (TRIBUTES) Leader of the Starry Skies: A Tribute to Tim Smith, Songbook 1 music review by frippism. www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=457899
That is very very weird... Government conspiracy much???
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 00:57
But seriously has this ever happened before?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 01:27
Only a Jedi could have erased those files.
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 02:30
This isn't the review you're looking for...
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 02:40
so what...move on start again and save a copy next time
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 04:39
Chris S wrote:
so what...move on start again and save a copy next time
Don't be such a buzz kill... It's fun complaining. Plus 1700 words is hefty, I need to be in the mood
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 05:33
Luckily, it's still in google's cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ja565y_jETcJ:www.progarchives.com/Review.asp%3Fid%3D457899+www.progarchives.com/Review.asp%3Fid%3D457899&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.c" rel="nofollow - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ja565y_jETcJ:www.progarchives.com/Review.asp%3Fid%3D457899+www.progarchives.com/Review.asp%3Fid%3D457899&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.c
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WARNING: SUPER LONG REVIEW
I'm trying really hard to write something about this album but I don't know where to start. Let
me start with this: Buy this album, as it is for a good cause. The best cause. This tribute is
for a very very special man named Tim Smith. Who is Tim Smith? Well Son (surprise by the
way you're all my sons- famous play reference intended), Tim Smith is more or less the
greatest musical genius of the 20th century. To have a mind which is able to write things so
very complex, yet so harmonically perfect and beautiful isn't seen often. In fact I would go to
say that only Tim has such a mind unbelievable genius that just leaks and spreads to
everyone he knows and to anyone who ever listened to his music. His biggest project
Cardiacs, is a rather unknown yet passionately followed by every fan. Never have I seen a
more devout cult fanbase. And it's not surprising, considering how easy it is for Tim Smith to
make you fall in love with your music. It catches you and smashes on the nearest wall, and
you thank Tim for that. It touches the weakest part in your body and makes you surrender
immediately to its serene and divine beauty, all the while you headbang to the punky riffs of
Cardiacs and shed a tear for the beautiful folky pleasure of his side project Sea Nymphs
and get your mind blown from the psychedelic wonder which is Spratley's Japs. In the end
you succumb to Tim's eternal genius and you kneel down and beg for another tune, another
riff. Unfortunately Tim can't supply these tunes. Tim suffered a severe stroke in '08 and is
bedridden and ill. This tribute album, which is very aptly titled "Leader Of The Starry Skies"
comes to help raise money for Tim, whose genius is so criminally unknown that he can't get
enough money to recover. Surprisingly many musicians came and volunteered to
participate in this project, this single most very important charity, and the results are rather
magical.
The 17 artists that are on the main disc come from a very wide range. Indie, electronica, folk,
pop, punk, prog, everything. I think this the greatest thing about Tim's music. You can have
hardcore progger and a sneering punk sit together and pledge their allegiance to anything
that Tim Smith has created. It just goes to show that Cardiacs are not a prog band in any
way shape or form, neither are they a punk band, or a folk band. They are a pop band (as
Tim always said). The shiny punk shell coloured in a proggish colour holds within itself a
beautiful and heart warming pop song. And that's what makes them stick. They expand their
sound so much that people with a taste for them love them, but it's the beautiful pop tune
inside that makes them stick so strongly to your concious and makes you feel all warm and
fuzzy inside.
The songs here are rather freaking wonderful. I'm not going to going into every one of them
in detail but will do a track by track:
"Savour" (William D. Drake and His So Called Friends)- William D. Drake, former Cardiacs
keyboard player and general genius virtuoso, supplies the first cover taken from Tim's solo
album "Oceanlandworld". The track is done beautifully with a wonderful brass section
opener and great vocals by Bill. Bone chillingly beautiful and emotionally powerful, Bill
opens the tribute in a big way.
"Big Ship" (Ultrasound)- Indie band Ultrasound reunited to make this song, and they do a
pretty spectacular job with the anthemic epicness which is "Big Ship" from Cardiacs' "Songs
For Ships And Irons". Rather close to the original in delivery but still powerful and emotional.
"Fear" (Oceansize)- Recently split-up band Oceansize are the first Prog band to be featured
here. They provide a cover to one of the more hauntingly beautiful songs of all time, taken
from "Spratley's Japs" only album. They do a more hard rocking spacey version, which is
still enormously beautiful and powerful. Definitely worth checking out by Oceansize fans.
"Let Alone My Plastic Doll" (Mark Cawthra)- This early Cardiacs track is provided by one of
the first Cardiacs drummers, Mark Cawthra. The track itself was a fun and rocking affair, and
Mark provides a great vocal delivery.
"Day Is Gone" (The Trudy)- I'm not a fan of pop rock band the Trudy, but their version of "Day
Is Gone" off of Cardiacs' "Heaven Born And Ever Bright" was definitely enjoyable. Rather
similar to the original with a great vocal delivery and nice guitar solo.
"Foundling" (Stars In Battledress)- This track is the last track from Cardiacs' "Sing To God"
and is one of the most divine and magical songs in the Cardiacs catalogue, and proggy-
folky-pastoral duo "Stars In Battledress" make a beautifully minimalistic and powerful
performance. The vocals can give you goosebumps (good thing of course), and the
instrumentation is varied and it all sounds like beauty in a box.
"Will Bleed Amen" (Max Tundra)- probably my favourite or almost favourite tribute. Max
Tundra's electronic cover of one of my favourite Cardiacs tracks "Will Bleed Amen" is an
absolute delight with many lines and synths running all along the tracks poking your brain
every once in a while. The vocals by Sarah Measures are great and the general production
and arranging of the song is just spectacular. A bucking +.
"Shaping The River" (Jullianne Regan)- singer of goth rock "All About Eve" provides a very
eerie and unsettling cover of "Shaping The River" off of the Sea Nymphs eponymous and
only album. Her voice is incredible and the ambient spacey feel of the song does wonders
to the brainbox.
"The Stench Of Honey" (Knifeworld)- This track provided by the solo project by current
Cardiacs guitarist Kavus Torabi is a completely mind blowing and exciting affair. "The
Stench Of Honey" from Cardiacs' album "On Land And In the Sea" is a freaky folky
experience. Kavus transfers the feeling of the song very well as well as providing his own
little brass bits and metal riffs and twisted arrangements. The second prog band here
provides a great ride.
"A Little Man And A House" (The Magic Numbers)- Really, unfortunately, not very good. This
track (The first track from Cardiacs' "A Little Man And A House And The Whole World
Window") is provided by one of the more popular (commercially) bands on this tribute, indie
band The Magic Numbers. Goes on for too long, bad vocals, rather awkward sounding
deliveries and arrangements. Unfortunate and usually skipped by your's truly.
"Is This The Life?" (mikrokosmos)- The original song is probably Cardiacs' biggest... hit sort
of. mikrokosmos is a solo project manned by former Cardiacs guitarist Christian Hayes.
Bic's (nickname) electronic ambient version is chilling and rather empowering and
manages to grab you for the whole 6 minutes.
"March" (North Sea Radio Orchestra)- This is also one of my favourites off the album.
Chamber-pop-rock-bitavant-folk ensemble North Sea Radio Orchestra bring us an
absolutely delightful version of "March" off "Heaven Born And Ever Bright". Great and quirky
instrumentation with a beautiful string section and drop dead gorgeous vocals provide a
cover, which I probably shouldn't be saying, is probably better than the original.
"Lily White's Party" (Robert White (you're thinking of Wyatt) feat. Andy Partridge)- My favourite
track off of the Sea Nymphs album is given a great cover by Robert White. Also rather similar
to the original, great but goes on for a bit too long.
"Wind And Rain Is Cold" (Rose Kemp Vs. Rarg)- I don't know who Rarg is, but freaky indie
act Rose Kemp probably gets the prize for best cover on the album. Her cover of lovely pop
song "Wind And Rain Is Cold" off of "Guns", is an ever-shifting, creepy, delightful, and utterly
progressive affair. Her vocals are really deep and glorious, and the electronic bits are
wonderfully added and make the song feel a hell of lot weirder.
"Up In Annie's Room" (Katharine Blake)- The song with probably Tim Smith's greatest lyrics,
"Up In Annie's Room" is given a short and powerful A Capella cover by singer Katharine
Blake who is known as being one of the singers from vocal group "Medieval Babes" (stupid
name...). The vocal layers are great and the song is beautiful.
"Stoneage Dinosaur" (Steven Wilson)- Probably the most well known musician here, leader
of Porcupine Tree Steven Wilson provides a cover for one of the few Cardiacs sorta ballads
"Stoneage Dinosaur" off of "Songs For Ships And Irons". I'm not a fan of most of PT's work
and most of Steven Wilson's work, but damn he does a great job here. The many keyboards
and synths provide a powerful and emotional cover. His vocals are great, and the
minimalistic drums compliment the song perfectly.
"Home Of Fadeless Splendour" (The Scramanga Six)- There are currently five people in the
Scramange Six, and for that they should be hanged! A Pop-Cardiacs influenced group, the
Scramanga Six provide the last song on the album, which is the first song from "Heaven
Born And Ever Bright". Let me say this in caps lock: THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST BEAUTIFUL
AND MAGICAL SONG YOU WILL EVER LISTEN TO. Well at least if you're a Cardiacs fan.
The beginning always gives me severe goosebumps, and the songs builds up to a
wonderful crescendo which is inspirational and the vocals are so passionate and real and
the playing just screams at you "I love this band and this song" and you can feel the general
celebration Cardiacs are. THANK YOU SCRAMANGA SIX FOR THIS DIVINE EXPERIENCE.
This album is a very important and fun treasure for Cardiacs fans and is not a bad entrance
for people yet unaware of the Genius with a capital G that Tim Smith is. Buy this album just
for Tim, you don't have to listen to it if you really don't want to. 4.5 stars for the music and 5
stars for the cause. This is essential for everyone, and especially for Tim!
Tim, get well for all the fishes in the pond, and I sure as hell hope this album helps you get
better!!!!!!!
frippism |5/5 |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 05:34
^ You saved it!!!!!!!!!! I am ever grateful!!!! No seriously I couldn't see myself typing something like that again thanks a lot!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 05:40
No problem. I've lost a couple of REALLY long ones elsewhere (ones that took me a full day to prepare).
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 05:41
Oh god... that really is just tragic... You've lost after they were posted?
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 05:53
It wasn't the same situation as yours, and not at at PA (though I have lost one long review at PA). It was quite a long time ago and I didn't have much internet experience. I've lost a lot of writing through sites being closed, hacked, and errors over the years (sometimes I've been lucky and found cached pages of lost stuff), but those really long ones were very detailed screenplay reviews which I didn't save before trying to post. Back then I typed on the computer based on outlines and notes that I would write on paper (and it was very time-consuming to type). The worst, though, was when my daughter turned off the computer once and I lost a lot of work I had done in editing someone's thesis -- I was working on a very tight deadline.
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 06:25
Logan wrote:
It wasn't the same situation as yours, and not at at PA (though I have lost one long review at PA). It was quite a long time ago and I didn't have much internet experience. I've lost a lot of writing through sites being closed, hacked, and errors over the years (sometimes I've been lucky and found cached pages of lost stuff), but those really long ones were very detailed screenplay reviews which I didn't save before trying to post. Back then I typed on the computer based on outlines and notes that I would write on paper (and it was very time-consuming to type). The worst, though, was when my daughter turned off the computer once and I lost a lot of work I had done in editing someone's thesis -- I was working on a very tight deadline.
Ouch!!!!! I'm saving In word after every... word I type.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 18 2011 at 17:28
Greg, that was great. How does one search in Google cache? I tried but couldn't.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 17:42
I don't know what you tried, but in the google search bar you can add cache: before the url. For instance: cache:http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=31962 or find the exact page where the review (review number) was and add cache: to the beginning of it. In this case it was very easy for me because all I had to do was use the url that David mentioned ian pasot on the last page www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=457899, do a google search for it, and it offered the cached page which had it without me having to do much searching through caches:
../Review.asp?id=457899" rel="nofollow - VARIOUS ARTISTS (TRIBUTES) Leader of the Starry ... - Progarchives.com
7 Jun 2011 ... From Progarchives.com, the ultimate progressive rock music website .... Send comments to frippism; Report this review (#457899) ... www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=457899 - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ja565y_jETcJ:www.progarchives.com/Review.asp%3Fid%3D457899+www.progarchives.com/Review.asp%3Fid%3D457899&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.ca" rel="nofollow - Cached
Google cached pages often don't last long, and often pages aren't cached -- it was good to find it quickly..
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: June 19 2011 at 17:46
Greg you're a star!
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 20 2011 at 06:09
An Eloy Star?
Thanks Greg!
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: July 03 2011 at 14:52
Ouch. I am going to save all my reviews in word from now on.....
And save all the reviews I have done to word as well.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 31 2011 at 08:20
I just wrote a review yesterday on Fremtidan ar ett Skepp... and it wouldn´t let me post the bugger. I thought I had lost it, and was pretty angry. I left the interwebs logged completely out, and returned some hours after. I clicked the back button I swoosh there was the review!
Never happened to me before...
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: August 31 2011 at 22:00
Guldie, always copy your review before you hit the button....it has saved my ass a few times. It just sucks to lose a long review!
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 31 2011 at 22:08
As a general practice I write my reviews in word (I have a formatting template for html tags, makes things much neater) and save them to my hard drive before I copy them to the site.
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 05:32
Alright thanks guys - will remember to save my ramblings next time.
I just found it very odd, that after several hours of being away from the computer - it was turned completely off too - I suddenly was staring at my review, which I, for the life of me couldn´t find 4 hours earlier
Oh well, nothing happened after all - maybe it was just a ghost in the machine.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 05:44
that's happened to me, though I find it's usually a ghost in the brain
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 01 2011 at 05:49
My brain is a ghost. It´s invisible!
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