11/4 in Hey Ya?
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Topic: 11/4 in Hey Ya?
Posted By: penguindf12
Subject: 11/4 in Hey Ya?
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 14:50
| You've all probably heard the hip-hop song "Hey Ya" on the radio, right? Just today I found something that said it's in 11/4 on a site, and I went back and listened to it (my friend has their Cd) and it is in 11/4! Weird! This is the first odd time signature #1 hit since Money! Hopefully OutKast will do more stuff like this in the future...maybe... |
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 14:56
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Sorry, I only listen to WDR 3, a German radio channel, which usually broadcasts classical, jazz and ethnic, but definitely no hip-hop. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
penguindf12 wrote:Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 15:03
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I would not have expected that. Did Money go #1? ------------- 
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Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 15:20
Your point is???  and maybe you should listen to other stations?  ------------- ...this is called....BleedingGum ... ! |
Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 15:43
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Actually, I believe it's in 4/4, with a 2/4 measure thrown in during the end of each verse, so, essentially, it's 14/4, but that's just like saying a normal song's verse is 16/4, which is pointless because it's just 4 measures of 4/4.
EDIT - I'm listening to the song right not on Rhapsody, and the Verses are - 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 2/4, 4/4, and 4/4. Whoever said it's in 11 is right, except it'd be 11/2, which is ludicrous. The bass/snare beat clearly defines the downbeats. A friend of mine has a piano transcription of this song, and I'm almost sure, IIRC, that it's three measures of 4/4 with a 2/4 at the end. Nothing too exciting, as it's just there to help the lyrics flow. -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 15:44
My point is that there is no radio station here that broadcasts prog on a regular basis, not even on an irregular one. The only bearable (and indeed excellent) radio channel we receive here is WDR 3, and there is the slight possibility for the occasional prog tune Mo-Fr between 3 pm and 5 pm in a special program named "Musikpassagen". There is always excellent music in "Musikpassagen", and on WDR 3 as a whole, but only 1% of it is prog at the most (probably 0.05% would be more accurate). The music on all other radio channels is crap though, so if we are not listening to a record from our collection we listen to WDR3. It is an excellent radio station, just with very little prog. But all other channels are simply unbearable. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 15:49
| Time signatures do not prog maketh. |
Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 15:54
Oh... I see.. Yeah... do not worry, you are not alone because those progs are not radio-friendly.  ------------- ...this is called....BleedingGum ... ! |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 17:07
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I guess this means OutKast needs to be in the Archives. They are so prog!
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Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 17:21
I can't help, cause i have no idea on how to find what time signiture anything is in really.(apart from 4/4)
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Posted By: Odd24
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 17:27
If so...then Kate Bush, Simon & Garfunkel & the Beatles are prog too. Just listen respectively to Egypt, America and Hapiness is a warm gun ------------- Right down the line |
Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:15
Hm.... Maybe Elvis, Little Richards, Chuck Berry are prog too ?? ------------- ...this is called....BleedingGum ... ! |
Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:17
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I didn't say they were prog...I just said they had a song in 11/4....
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Posted By: Astaroth
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:21
well , a lot of people say that the beatles are prog. except for their radio hits I had only listen to a few song of them. I like "strawberry fields" a lot. Can someone recommend me songs of the beatles that are closer to prog? (sorry for my bad english, I forget all my classes)
------------- "I need you more that you can know ... and if I hurt myself it's just for show" |
Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:32
Well, it's not in 11/4; it's just another OutKast song, lol. -Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:35
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And we know what OutKast is like |
Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 18:47
You are right, you did not say it. But you started the thread on Prog Music Lounge. You should have sterted on HipHop Music Lounge.  ------------- ...this is called....BleedingGum ... ! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 19:04
Yes but no one mentioned prog radio stations. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 19:20
Try "Revolver." It is excellent. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 19:21
Awww, unfortunately not. I'm afraid the only Prog radio stations I've heard is on the internet. |
Posted By: Astaroth
Date Posted: June 22 2005 at 23:17
thx! ------------- "I need you more that you can know ... and if I hurt myself it's just for show" |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 11:29
| It's not that rare for tunes in 4/4 to have the odd bar in 2/4, eg. leading to the chorus or something like that. It's not that common either, but by no means unheard of. |
Posted By: Odd24
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 14:06
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This is correct. In the end of the sixties and during the seventies it was rather common to do this. Nowadays I get the feeling it is getting obsolete, it is not done as often as it used to be done (just like progrock sometimes seems to be ------------- Right down the line |
). But maybe there will be a revival, who knows (another Woodstock???). I think Outkast sets a step in the right direction. I wasn't very fond of "Miss Jackson" (only for the emotional irony maybe) but I liked the song "Hey ya" the first time that I heard it.