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Topic: Which headphones to choose
Posted By: Marty McFly
Subject: Which headphones to choose
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 12:10

Hello there, after trying many low-end headphones, I've decided to try something a little bit more expensive, in hope to avoid constant curse of mine - one channel stopping working after few weeks/months. I'm sick of it, so I hope by buying more expensive (but not so much expensive) ones, I'll avoid/reduce this problem.

So I ask you if you can help me choosing some.

I'll buy them from local (city) dealer, so don't post me your choices, as my dealer won't probably have them. I want to buy them here, locally, so I'll have best chances to communicate with him and also to have warranty easy to go through.


some points I need
* I hate earbuds, I need proper headphones with ridge (connecting left/right) over top of my head
* I obviously want better sound quality. I can have best, as for this I would probably need hundreds of $$$, but I want good quality for this price range.
* Oh, my price range is about ...$20-$80

* And quite important thing (made me condemn some choices) - I need to suppress outside noise to some extent. Without use of electronic devices (on battery), I just want headphones where you can enjoy your music, even if you're in noisy place (school, bus)


Here are choices so far:


http://www.amazon.com/Koss-UR40-Collapsible-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00006JILE

http://www.amazon.com/Creative-EF0060-Aurvana-Live-Headphones/dp/B000ZJZ7OA

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-202-Dynamic-Headphones/dp/B000065BP9



I heard about electronic thing that's build in some headphones (rare), AFAIK it takes outside noise that's coming to my ears and puts it back somehow. Anyway, I don't want this, as I don't want anything with batteries inside my headphones (I listen music about 12h per day, I don't want to recharge batteries every few days).

I just want headphones that are build well - they don't let muchnoise coming through. Because more noise coming into my ears through headphones means less music I'll hear. So I'll have to raise volume => more damaging to my ears and also more of my music coming out of my headphones => more music will be heard by other people, which isn't I want. It's my music and I don't want to bother other people with it, same as I'm angry at people who listen music too loud in buses.




So what do you think ?





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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 12:21
Don't buy 25$ headphones.  If your range is up to $80, you are best off spending $80 and getting something better. 

In fact, I wouldn't recommend buying anything online, it's much better to try it before you buy; something that lots of people like might not be what you are looking for.

Personally, I'd recommend some mid-price Sennheisers, something like http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD555-Professional-Headphones-Channeling/dp/B0001FTVDQ/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_2" rel="nofollow - this maybe not that one



Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 12:30
I wouldn't suggest the HD-555's  if you plan on using them in noisy places. They are not good at blocking out noise at all. They shine in a lot of areas, but they are not made for noise cancelling.


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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 12:46

Strange thing, they look good, but I can't take them for a very peculiar reason. Even they cost around $80 on Amazon, they cost terrible $170 in my local e-shop. From a look on price aggregation server (which compares prices from all major e-shops around Czech Republic), their price ranges from $120 to $250 in shops here.

Not sure why, but this puts them out of race.


Trying them would be best thing, but it's thing that not many shops allow here. Fortunately, there is thing called return in 7 (or 14?) days if I'm unhappy with product, so I can "try" them this way. 



What do you think about these Aurvana Live Headphones from CREATIVE ? 



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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 12:54
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

What do you think about these Aurvana Live Headphones from CREATIVE ? 

I haven't tried them, but they look a lot cheaper than they are.

The AKG K 518's which I have block out noise very well but are also uncomfortable to wear for a longer time. The Sennheisers which I used to have (HD 435?) were very comfortable but didn't block out noise at all. Sadly there seems to be an inverted correlation between these two properties.

I would go for a closed model by either Sennheiser, AKG or possibly Beyerdynamic. If you can't try them before buying you'll just have to go by the reviews.


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 13:06

^ I remember un-comfortability myself. I had headphones that were simply too tight on my head. And my head isn't exactly fat or round. They had vertical adjustment of position, but I would prefer horizontal. Simply to get them from being too tight sitting on my head.

My ears were in pain, but these headphones had very good sound and also could block out noise well.



I was thinking about this inv. correlation - one of factors that governs how comfortable are they is how tight are they - how much they press on your ear, right ? And also major factor of noise blocking is how tight it sits.

But there has to be way.



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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 13:12
Possibly the kind of big ones that go around your ears and therefore don't press against them?


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 13:32
http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/49/headphonesv.jpg" rel="nofollow - http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/49/headphonesv.jpg

This one's getting a bit old, but still. Thank you, /mu/. You'll want closed-back headphones, not open-back.

I think my rule of thumb is if they make good microphones, they'll make good headphones, since it's a lot of the same technology just in reverse.

Sennheiser, AKG, and AudioTechnica are good go-tos.

And Grado and Denon are legendary for monitoring, so they'll be good.

And as always, no Skullcandys for any reason.


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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 13:52

just a quick note - Koss Porta Pro - never :-D when I thought about them few years ago (2?), they just came down to $35 price tag from something 2-3x more expensive. But this was exactly the moment, when everyone started to use them.

Literally.

I go to the school, then I'm in school, then I go home and during this time, I can see them at least ten times, usually more times. I'm getting sick of them just from looking at them, because they're everywhere in Pilsen.


Oh, they also don't have that good sound, my gf have them.



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Even my


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 13:55

Active noise canceling, that's the thing I don't want. Skullcandy ? Never saw a thing.

Also, from look at the image, some brands simply doesn't exist here in Czech Republic - JVC for instance.

A lot of stores also have more headphones with microphone than normal ones. I don't want to go around town with microphone near my head, it's ridicolous. Of course, these are computer shops, but that's where I usually am buying.


EDIT:

Oh, my shop have skullcandy's. Great. Now it's tempting, I feel need to buy them ... oh wait a minute, not really, I'm safe Sleepy Seriously, who would buy such a thing ?



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 13:58
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Active noise canceling, that's the thing I don't want. Skullcandy ? Never saw a thing.

You're lucky.

Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Also, from look at the image, some brands simply doesn't exist here in Czech Republic - JVC for instance.

Well I hope you're planning to buy online. This day and age, there's really no reason not to unless shipping is ridiculous, which it might be in CR for all I know...

Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Oh, my shop have skullcandy's. Great. Now it's tempting, I feel need to buy them ... oh wait a minute, not really, I'm safe Sleepy Seriously, who would buy such a thing ?




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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 14:02
I have http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-IMAGE-S4-Noise-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B001V9LPT4" rel="nofollow - these.


Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 14:14
My advice: go for bluetooth. Obviously this depends on whether your mobile player supports bluetooth, but if it does it's definitely worth it.

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-BH-505-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003H83XP6" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-BH-505-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003H83XP6

Please note that the bulk of the negative reviews complain about the headset not being sweat resistant. I own one and can confirm this - I wore it once in the gym and it stopped working, but then resumed normal operation a couple of hours later. This means that if you want to wear this during a workout, you should also wear a sweat band ... which is a good idea for other reasons, namely keeping sweat away from your eyes.

I've been using the headseat for 2-3 months and I definitely don't want to go back to wire based headphones.


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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 14:14
  ^^ Heard about these ... takes earbuds to whole another level, right ? Anyway, I never was friend with these, no earbuds (or how to call them) fitted in my ears. These have 3 sizes I think, but still, my ears are wrong sort.  

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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 14:18
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

My advice: go for bluetooth. Obviously this depends on whether your mobile player supports bluetooth, but if it does it's definitely worth it.

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-BH-505-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003H83XP6" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-BH-505-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003H83XP6

Please note that the bulk of the negative reviews complain about the headset not being sweat resistant. I own one and can confirm this - I wore it once in the gym and it stopped working, but then resumed normal operation a couple of hours later. This means that if you want to wear this during a workout, you should also wear a sweat band ... which is a good idea for other reasons, namely keeping sweat away from your eyes.

I've been using the headseat for 2-3 months and I definitely don't want to go back to wire based headphones.

Yep, even it's 2 years old, it supports it. But I'll have it for listening with notebook, which fortunately have it as well :-D

I thought about bluetooth a lot. 


Having wireless mouse and headphones is a good thing, as it would reduce number of needed cables to nice number (only power supply) on my notebook. I sometimes feel like tangled thing. I will explore this possibility further, but generally, it seems like very good thing.

Because problem usually is in cable, it gets in way, it can destroy contact (electronic) and you have only one channel working ...



but what about batteries ? price ? Such HP would be more expensive, wouldn't they ?



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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"

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Even my


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 02 2011 at 15:47
The only headphones I ever used were the ones I had when I was flying. And they didn't work like most things ithat they had in thje military.

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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 03 2011 at 03:58
^ At least those are very big and I'm sure can block out the noise extremely well. Only music is lacking, isn't it ?

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Even my


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 03 2011 at 06:15
Get a HD25 and keep it a lifetime.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 03 2011 at 11:56
Do you even read people's questions, or just automatically plug whatever gear you have?  Look at this price range, obvious he won't be getting HD25s


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 03 2011 at 13:54
i've read very well...a lifetime is worst stretching a little its budget, don't you think?


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 03 2011 at 13:58
No.
 
If Marty has a budget of $20-$80 then that is his budget - not $199.


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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 08 2011 at 16:17
Yep, thanks for offer Oliver, it's really pretty thing to have, but I wouldn't like to carry so expensive thing with me anyway.

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Even my


Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: June 13 2011 at 18:17
The Klipsch S4 is a good earphone to start out with. Or the Panasonic HJE900, that might be a little over $80, but the little extra is worth it.


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: June 14 2011 at 05:27
Originally posted by Marty McFly Marty McFly wrote:

Yep, thanks for offer Oliver, it's really pretty thing to have, but I wouldn't like to carry so expensive thing with me anyway.


It has a very austere look so don't be afraid of that.



Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 14 2011 at 05:33

The bad thing is that some headphones cost more on amazon and some cost much less on amazon than in Czech shops. What can be $150 here can cost $400 here, while some $100 can cost $50 here.

This factor changes it all. In a bad way.



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Even my


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 28 2011 at 12:01

Just to let you know, I finally choose these:

http://www.amazon.com/Creative-EF0060-Aurvana-Live-Headphones/dp/B000ZJZ7OA" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Creative-EF0060-Aurvana-Live-Headphones/dp/B000ZJZ7OA

I've read few dozens of reviews and opinions and their positives were very good. Disadvantages includes sweaty ears (can stand it) and bad portability (can stand it).


I also choose them because they were in local shop, so in case of faults, I can easily use my warranty.



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Even my


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 28 2011 at 12:04
and?  How do they sound?


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 28 2011 at 15:41

Well, I'm sadly not audiophile and cannot compare these with others mid-price range headphones (they cost $60 on Amazon, they cost $60 in Czech R. as well), but if you just want my brutally honest amateur opinion, then they

sound effing great.


I've read in one Czech review that he was listening a movie with these headphones and he actually heard hissing noise in background. He made a theory that the film was so badly encoded, that good phones captured the bad sound and let it be known.

I didn't try films yet though.



Music sounds well, I've tried them with big range of Prog subgenres and so far the only bad sounding was weirdly captured mp3's of my Caravan (particularly song "And I Wish I Were Stoned"), because I in my past foolishness artificially edited the song in editor and raised volume. It sound like sh_t now.

I was especially happy with Moon Safari's Blomljud music, because their songs are full of instrument harmonies.

SOME old unmastered albums sound kind of "lifeless" though.

Bacamarte's first album is perfect example of songs where every instrument sound "loud" and "prominent" as it should be.


I don't need to use equalizer anymore, it all sound great without it.



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Even my


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 28 2011 at 16:36
As long as they sound good and you are happy with the purchase, it doesn't really matter how they compare to other cans.  Glad you found something that works for you.


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: June 28 2011 at 18:14

Thanks avant man, good to hear such words from you.

I'm happy with them, that's for sure. Not sure how much of it is placebo effect, but as long as it works, I'm fine with it.



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Even my


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 01 2011 at 23:50
I can't stand ear buds. Won't wear 'em. I got a pair of Sennheiser HD-202's to use with my Sony Walkman mp3 player on walks, and have been very pleased for the last six months. Nice bass response, crisp highs and they won't break your budget. They are comfortable as well, very light weight, although your ears can get hot in warm weather.

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Posted By: Megaman90
Date Posted: July 03 2011 at 12:11
I love my Creative Aurvana Live headphones. They have great clear sound, I use them for recording, mixing and just listening to my Mp3 player. They have good bass, not booty bass, but clear lows, mids and highs. They don't give me ear fatigue like some cheaper over ears either. They aren't the best headphones you can get, but they certainly are very nice.

Just please, DON'T buy skull candy.


Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: July 03 2011 at 12:21
These may have already been brought up, but I use Sennheiser's HD280 Pro, which are some of the best studio headphones out there. They may be just a bit more expensive than you like (prices range from $80-100 depending on the store), but they're well worth the price. I've had mine for probably 4 or 5 years without a hitch - perfectly balanced, wonderful quality - the whole shabang. 


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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 04 2011 at 08:27
A cheaper choice is the EH250 which is nicely sounding for such budget can.


Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: July 04 2011 at 09:26
These are the headphones I use:
 
 
A little expensive, though.  At the time, they cost $130, but I haven't regretted it at all.  They aren't supposed to be able to cancel noise, and they don't all the way, but they do a pretty good job of it along with having an awesome range.  My Porcupine Tree albums and the rest of my collection for that matter sound phenomonal on these.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 04 2011 at 11:27
These are the headphones I use, which are ridiculously expensive by the standards of most of this site


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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: July 10 2011 at 11:24
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Get a HD25 and keep it a lifetime.

this. but its a 180$ one.

From the price range and the ones Ive tried, the AKG k240s is great, or the grado SR60 or SR80 if you dont mind the isolation being null. I personally liked better the SR60, 80 was too bassy for me.

if you dont mind a no branded, Superlux HD668b is great, at only 60$ it even trow some serious punches to the K240, except in comfort.

If you could get the ATH M50 at that price, I dont personally like it but it has a lot of followers and sure fits in all your demands

the isolation kill them all but the HD25, see this thread and check out the final comparisson table:

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/433318/shootout-84-portable-headphones-reviewed-fischer-audio-fa-004-koss-ur55-added-06-06" rel="nofollow - Shootout: 84 Portable Headphones 


Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 19:45

After these few months, I can say some things - Creative Aurvana Live headphones have the finest sound I've ever heard. Especially after I found out that there is an option in Windows 7 (click on systray sound icon - settings of effects) that boosts basses, adds surround effect.

Of course, I don't want these idiocies, but i F-ING DIDN'T know that such thing was in place there. It was turn on by default.


I turned off equalizer in Winamp, I turned down all these b*****ds. Result - terrific natural sound.




There is a problem though with these phones. Left headphone snapped. It broke in the weakest spot, where only flimsy plastic , about 5mm in radius, holds it. It's right in the spot where the bridge connects to the "dish", in the place where you can turn dish left and right.

They still play good, I just had to make makeshift holding on the head.


Warranty is void though, they said it's a mechanical damage. b*****dS - It's not my problem that the joint is so weak and possibly wrongly manufactured.



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 20:23
That's kind of funny, the right phone of my Grado's, which are my best set, Consumer Reports recommended, came off the metal bar that attaches it to the headband.  Fourtunately, I can stick it back on, but it doesn't stay on if I move too much.  I didn't know Windows 7 had that feature.  I've never used the headphones with this thing.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: September 21 2011 at 20:32
There are good headphones in every price range. In my case, even though I have no money whatsoever, since headphones are absolutely essential for me to listen to music, I invested a lot in some really really good ones. But any decent Grado , Sennheiser or Audio-technica should do just fine. Of course, avoid hyped sh*t like Beats or Bose.

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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: September 22 2011 at 03:20

But I mean, I've tried to prepare. I've read dozens of reviews on those. Read discussion counting hundred posts in one e-shop (czech). They have perfect sound, but they're perhaps not from that good materials.

Anyway, I spent $60 for them, I'm not going to let it go down the drain and buy new ones. Not because I don't have have money, but because of principle. I made the choice, I'll get used to it. Next time, perhaps $100 ?



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Even my


Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: September 29 2011 at 02:21
Be careful about listening music 12hr per day in headphones.
It can affect your hearing ability in a long term

I love listening music but I love my ears too. so I restrict myself to listening music not more than 4 hours in a day in headphones (I have moderately priced Gemini DJX-05 on my work )
The worst thing is listening in headphones in very noisy environment, like subway/metro train. It forces you to set volume to very loud/extreme values, which can be not noticeable because of overall noisy environment



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