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Topic: Zeuhl Battle
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Subject: Zeuhl Battle
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:43
Just curious. I'd like to know which Zeuhl group is held in the highest regard.

I'd personally go Eskaton or Weidorje.


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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:46
Yikes this is tough, although it's really only between Dun and Magma for me. I'll go with Dun because I find it more engaging than Magma, which is pretty damn engaging.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:46
I certainly have to go with the big one: Magma.  My second choice would be Shub-Niggurath.


Posted By: Mista-Gordie
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:47
Magma


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:47
Something about Magma has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think it's their vocals. Worst vibrato ever.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:48
Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Something about Magma has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think it's their vocals. Worst vibrato ever.


Get the debut if you don't have it -- awesome album.


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:50
Gotta go Magma, followed by Koenji. 

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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:51
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Something about Magma has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think it's their vocals. Worst vibrato ever.


Get the debut if you don't have it -- awesome album.

Out of all of their albums, the debut, Udu Wudu, and Attahk are the only ones I thoroughly enjoy.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:55
Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Something about Magma has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think it's their vocals. Worst vibrato ever.


Get the debut if you don't have it -- awesome album.

Out of all of their albums, the debut, Udu Wudu, and Attahk are the only ones I thoroughly enjoy.


My faves are Kobaia, 1001 Degrees Centigrade, and Wurdah Itah.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 20:28
I don't want to be obvious, but it's obviously Magma


Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 20:33
My favorite right now is Koenjihyakkei. Next would be a tie between Magma and Eskaton. But there's still a lot of Zeuhl I haven't heard ... someday though, someday.


Posted By: Lima96
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 20:35
Weidorje, just because they got me into Zeuhl.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 21:59
Chose the obvious but i really love ZAO who aren't listed,of course only their early stuff is really Zeuhl i suppose. Some newer Zeuhl bands that i'm really enjoying are Setna and Xing Sa.

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Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 23:36
I knew I was going to forget one of the better bands. Zao is awesome, and I regret not remembering to include them. Nobody'else would vote for them anyway, though.

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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 01:48

Oh! Magma should be excluded! Thus this poll is somewhat biased.Confused

(Something like Prog Folk battle with participation of Tulls. Who´ll win, aha?)

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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 01:49
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I don't want to be obvious, but it's obviously Magma


jep Smile


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 02:06
because Magma will win by far I guess, Dun and first 3 albums by Eskaton are essential in any serious collection


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 02:31
Magma of course. But Weidorje, Shub, Koenjihyakkei and Dün are also interesting.

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 05:57
Obvious choice is obvious.

EDIT: then KH, for me.


Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 06:18

I like all bands here except for Dün. And I don't have any Universal Totem Orchestra. Need to work on that.
Magma is head and shoulders above the rest though.

Also the Eider Stellaire debut is recommended!


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 08:18
Zao. 


Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 09:04
Doesn't Magma always win this stuff?


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 11:44
I have to mention "The Magus" by UNIVERSAL TOTEM ORCHESTRA.Both of their albums are amazing but this one is mind warping.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 15:26
Magma, easy. As much as I like other Zeuhl bands, Magma is in their own league.

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Posted By: Lizzy
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 17:25
Magma obviously. Koenji and Shub-Niggurath are right behind.

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 17:35
This poll would be more interersting if Magma were excluded. I like all the groups listed but like that Dun album the least.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 17:40
I think were Magma not here my next choice would be Weidorje, then Dun, Eskaton and Shub-Niggurath.  I never really got into Koenji


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 18:42
Don't know the whole stuff but Weidorge and Eskaton are good IMO ,anyway all that buzz about the supposed zeuhl is a bit of a joke , Vander is a great musician but ..................all that supposed philosophy............ i could tell you a funny thing


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 18:45
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Zao. 
   yes Zao was great, you can have a look at Yoch'o Seffer dvd, Cromophonie, interresting


Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 18:46
Zeuhl = Magma. Magma = Zeuhl.

Pretty much everything else that's called Zeuhl (expect for maybe Yoshi's Zeuhl bands) is RIO/Avant.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 19:02
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Zeuhl = Magma. Magma = Zeuhl.

Pretty much everything else that's called Zeuhl (expect for maybe Yoshi's Zeuhl bands) is RIO/Avant.


Magma is avant-prog too. All Zeuhl is just a particular style of avant-prog.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 19:13
Magma is a great band , saw them on stage many times in france but the only problem  is that Vander and Blasquiz thought to be the only band on earth, and i'm sure it's not the case...........


Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 20:22
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Zeuhl = Magma. Magma = Zeuhl.

Pretty much everything else that's called Zeuhl (expect for maybe Yoshi's Zeuhl bands) is RIO/Avant.


Magma is avant-prog too. All Zeuhl is just a particular style of avant-prog.


Indeed, but only Magma truly fulfills the supposed sylistic requirements of Zeuhl.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 20:34
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Zeuhl = Magma. Magma = Zeuhl.

Pretty much everything else that's called Zeuhl (expect for maybe Yoshi's Zeuhl bands) is RIO/Avant.


Magma is avant-prog too. All Zeuhl is just a particular style of avant-prog.


Indeed, but only Magma truly fulfills the supposed sylistic requirements of Zeuhl.


Yeah but that's normal for a genre. Think of Symphonic. Genesis doesn't have the intense interplay moments of Yes. Yes doesn't have Genesis' pastoral touch. Neither have the classically inspired part of Focus or ELP, or the avantgarde inspiration of After Crying. Harmonium has only one of the aspects noted so far. But they're all essential Symphonic. There's rarely a genre where one band has all the essential features, and that probably happens only when it's a genre defined after a particular band (like Zeuhl). 


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 07:06
I agree that it would be more interesting without Magma, because no Magma = no Zeuhl, plus no other band in the genre has released as many good quality albums. If Magma were excluded it would be between Zao and Koenjihyakkei for me.

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Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 07:15
Weidorje without any doubt, even if it might be one of the least zeuhl albums in the zeuhl genre I really love it, Weidorje together with Magma's K.A. is in my opinion the two Zeuhl Masterpieces. Which is not the most pure Zeuhl album either, maybe it's not my genre. Either way, my vote goes for Weidorje.


Posted By: Psychedelist
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 11:55
Magma. Second choice would be "other"- Ruins, just slightly ahead of Koenjihyakkei and Eskaton.


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 12:01
Dun!

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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: May 01 2011 at 04:29
RUINS!!!! even if some bands as Magma (of course), Koenjihyakkei and Happy Family are also great
In fact the whole zeuhl genre is amazing 


Posted By: Falx
Date Posted: May 01 2011 at 04:35
Magma of course... Koenjihyakkei maybe if they had some meaning and mythology behind their lyrics. What are their songs even about?

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Posted By: Xaxaar
Date Posted: August 14 2011 at 23:35
Dün.



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