NoMeansNo
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Topic: NoMeansNo
Posted By: frippism
Subject: NoMeansNo
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 10:06
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Anyone who knows this Canadian punk bizarro outfit might be thinking either that NoMeansNo are a weird band, yet a punk band, or that NoMeansNo are some freaky cross between prog jazzcore and punk rawk. For me they are without a doubt rock, and even further, they are progressive (though there is noooo similarity to the classic prog sound), and they are punk. I find that to be an awesome combo. "Wrong" is probably the best way to go if you want to try them out. An album with hilarious lyrics, insane time changes, face melting riffs, powerful bass (you think Squire's bass had treble...), punky guitars, and incredibly incredible drums of the fastest proportions. I will post some linkies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyAii6f-hc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyAii6f-hc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbNthA7Uplc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbNthA7Uplc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLFpJuZ8zI&feature=BFa&list=MLGxdCwVVULXdCvfxKThCAaHwZpPkW5EKA&index=4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLFpJuZ8zI&feature=BFa&list=MLGxdCwVVULXdCvfxKThCAaHwZpPkW5EKA&index=4 For those immediately tagging this as hardcore or punk rock, take another look please. If you ask me they would be tagged either "Prog Related" (I mean if Styx and Journey are there, then these guys more than deserve a shot), or RIO/ Avant-Prog (The line between the two can be thin). ------------- There be dragons |
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 10:37
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Prog-Punk indeed  I think "Why Do They Call Me mr Happy" is their most progressive. |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 12:51
I tend to agree. It's probably my fave as well (though "Wrong" is a VERY close second). "Cats, Sex, and Nazis"= most genius song title/most hilarious song/ greatest hardcore punk prog song ever! ------------- There be dragons |
Bonnek wrote:Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 13:16
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I have actually been thinking of suggesting them myself, but they will be a difficult fit for the subs on PA. Maybe the 'Heavy Prog' team could be the most appropriate? I don't think they are Avant enough for Rio/Avant, though of course they might be pleasing to fans of stuff like Sleepytime Gorilla Museum (who are doubtlessly influenced by them!) |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 27 2011 at 13:58
You do have a point, they aren't really avant, with that Heavy Prog is also a problematic genre, considering many of the bands have either a blues or metal influence, and have a much more classic prog sound (most of them at least). Though the music is damn heavy... but punky (very punky) and has hardly any classic prog sound, more classic prog elements such as freaky time changes and different songwriting. So in a way they fit in the avant category, but I guess they really really don't. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 07:35
| Great stuff. I'll notify the Heavy Prog team. |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 08:08
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Some free mp3 of Nomeansno in the website of Alternative Tentacles (label owned by Jello Biafra): http://www.alternativetentacles.com/product.php?product=28&sd=PdaVzRmeUGiPuO7MbCg" rel="nofollow - http://www.alternativetentacles.com/product.php?product=28&sd=PdaVzRmeUGiPuO7MbCg
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 08:25
| Heavy Prog? Well... But it's true that they're not easy to fit in any genre (and the R.I.O. section had become... something I can't even explain). |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 10:00
Well yeah because you can't really explain what the RIO section is... and they can't really fit anywhere else, but they are for me definitely prog. That's why I'm thinking prog related maybe, though they are more progressive than that. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 10:29
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^Crossover?
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 12:28
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^ Howe (ha) didn't I think of that? Yeah Crossover's probably the most fitting. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 20:56
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So... call the Crossover Team!
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 28 2011 at 23:09
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^ I will! um... how and who? ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 13:46
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They have been passed on to the Heavy Team already. As said before they won't be a perfect fit for any of the subs, they are too "one of a kind". I'll keep an eye on the developments and will keep the Crossover in mind if the Heavy team can't see them in their realms. I could see them in Crossover too. |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 29 2011 at 15:15
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^ Awesome and thank you! ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 30 2011 at 10:33
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let's call them jazz-punk, or pazz-junk like they like to label their music. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: April 30 2011 at 19:12
Pazz-Junk is cool!
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 09:10
Pazz-Junk is very kewl (I spelled cool really weird). I wonder what happens PA opens a Prog-Punk sub-genre. Wonder if there are actually enough artists for that... ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: May 02 2011 at 16:46
cf the post-punk thread I started once. We have post-rock, post-metal but post-punk is missing  ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 05:14
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Anyone have anything new on this one? Does it usually take much time or was it just kinda ignored? ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: May 19 2011 at 06:47
Everything you say is ignored yes, but that aside, they are under evaluation by Heavy, which takes time as these guys have to go through lots of evaluation, especially after I buried them under a heap of discarded Prog Metal bands  |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 11:25
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Wellllll it's been two months... Anything new? ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 13:15
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The Heavy Prog team should use the ProgFreak...
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: July 20 2011 at 13:19
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What are his powers? ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 07 2011 at 16:42
The suggestion has been resurfaced (the horrors of not using ProgFreak) so we should be on track for eval. now. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 08:48
^Let's start a campaign "Please Heavy Prog Team, use ProgFreak"!
------------- "Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen) |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 08:50
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We're on our way, I've made sure of it ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 09:27
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^ yayyyyyyy wooh, it was definitely a long process... Hopefully we will hear what happens soon. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 16:13
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Minutemen should be considered for addition as well if Nomeansno fits the bill. And they played this stuff before NMN. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 16:23
| Hum... Then, the whole No-Wave stuff? |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 16:27
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 10 2011 at 16:35
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^
these bands meet clearly the criteria for a prog rock website, but we come back to my previous observation : post-punk is the missing post-something in PA's subgenres. But it seems that progsters have a problem with the word "punk"... ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 11:26
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Sorry but crossover team have rejected this band ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 11:39
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Seems like NoMeanNo has been rejected from PA altogether... ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 13:54
 Well f**k. oh well... ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 14:08
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PA is not ready for a punk prog subgenre... ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: October 30 2011 at 14:15
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^Hm maybe one of these days... It totally should happen though. I mean there are plenty of bands who belong there. ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 08:03
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I like some proggy punk. Fear fits that category. NoMeansNo was only slightly proggy to my ears. Not enough for inclusion. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 13:23
which is pure jazz-punk, or pazz-junk like they like to call their music. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 13:28
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How do I listen to an album wrong?
With the headphones on my elbows? ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 13:43
yes 
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 13:48
That's a No then? Are you sure you don't mean yes? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: October 31 2011 at 13:59
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------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 12:25
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Did they make it in?
------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 12:39
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It appears their rejection has been total and decisive. Ah well. I've been a fan for 20 years, and I think they're about the most technically gifted musicians you're likely to find in a punk environment. But at the end of the day, they're more of a punk band with occasional prog inclinations, and thus don't seem to fit here. I'm cool with that. It's been about 10 years since their last album... are they done? I know they're pushing 60 by now. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 14:25
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They were rejected by about every team that could possibly accept them. ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 15:25
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Maybe the New York Yankees will take them.
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: October 19 2012 at 15:55
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Conclution : No Means No, ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |