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Topic: Asia vs. Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum
Posted By: King Manuel
Subject: Asia vs. Sleepy Time Gorilla Museum
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:26
Serious question  .. Who gets more rotation in your CD Player (or mp3 player or record player)?

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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:26
Zero rotations to several and counting...

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:27
Seeing how the question is posed I can honestly answer Asia.

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Posted By: QuestionableScum
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:29
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum for sure. 


Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:46
In the heat of the moment i voted Asia..

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:49
Originally posted by Harold-The-Barrel Harold-The-Barrel wrote:

In the heat of the moment i voted Asia..

That takes them One Step Closer.


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:50
Sleepytime of course.

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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 11:59
SGM. No contest at all.


Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:11
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Harold-The-Barrel Harold-The-Barrel wrote:

In the heat of the moment i voted Asia..

That takes them One Step Closer.


Only Time Will Tell if they can win this pollWink


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:16

none of them Tongue

The poll is biased : pop vs experimental avant-garde rock/metal


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:19
Asia http://www.last.fm/music/Asia/+events" rel="nofollow - On Tour

2,425,309 plays (276,490 listeners)
http://www.last.fm/user/rushfan4/library/music/Asia" rel="nofollow - 806 plays in your library

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum

1,095,277 plays (56,659 listeners)
http://www.last.fm/user/rushfan4/library/music/Sleepytime+Gorilla+Museum" rel="nofollow - 9 plays in your library

Kind of an extreme blowout on my spin list.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:23
Originally posted by Harold-The-Barrel Harold-The-Barrel wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Harold-The-Barrel Harold-The-Barrel wrote:

In the heat of the moment i voted Asia..

That takes them One Step Closer.


Only Time Will Tell if they can win this pollWink

Don't Cry if they lose!


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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:28
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is not only better than Asia, but better than every band.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:34
SGM is about the only band in the Avant Prog category that I can think of that didn't really appeal to me (rather disliked).  I only have Of Natural History and hadn't listened to it in years.  It has elements that I love, and I could see it being a three star album for my tastes, maybe four if more of it clicked.  Though not a fan of SGM, I think Asia horrid (mind you, I've only heard the debut in full and not for more than twenty years, but I have listened to various Asia tracks over the last few years which I thought pretty sucky).  So a vote for SGM.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:40
Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:43
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I think Asia horrid (mind you, I've only heard the debut in full and not for more than twenty years, but I have listened to various Asia tracks over the last few years which I thought pretty sucky
 
I like pop, but I really can't  see the appeal of Asia. There is NOTHING in their music that grabs my attention.
Even the crappiest pop song on radio sounds more enjoyable to my ears...


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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 12:50
Sad Situation ... that SGM is leading, ... the smile has left my eyes  Cry


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:01
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I think Asia horrid (mind you, I've only heard the debut in full and not for more than twenty years, but I have listened to various Asia tracks over the last few years which I thought pretty sucky
 
I like pop, but I really can't  see the appeal of Asia. There is NOTHING in their music that grabs my attention.
Even the crappiest pop song on radio sounds more enjoyable to my ears...


Probably good reason, then, why it's such a ridiculed band.  What I really hated about that debut album is that it had this kind of bad prog quality mixed with pop/ Arena rockish stuff.  It's vapid and quite overwrought.

I like a lot of pop music -- especially 60's French pop, and so-called Avant Pop.


Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:02
I have two SGM albums....  
and only one full Asia album

so I probly listen to SGM more.... because of shuffle :)

 like Asia more though....  (even though they are not great)

got the SGM albums on a friends recommendation....


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:07
Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

Sad Situation ... that SGM is leading, ... the smile has left my eyes  Cry


Sad situation that Asia has 7 votes.


Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:11
If Asia went with the style that UK had I would have voted for them but it is Sleepytime for me.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:14
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.
Of course! Those of us that voted Asia are merely idiots aren't we? So sad that I have no taste.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:16
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.
Of course! Those of us that voted Asia are merely idiots aren't we? So sad that I have no taste.


You have taste, even if it's bad taste.  ;)


Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:18
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia SGM once a few times (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM Asia whom I happen to quite like.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:22
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.
Of course! Those of us that voted Asia are merely idiots aren't we? So sad that I have no taste.


You have taste, even if it's bad taste.  ;)

I probably like some music that you also like so I guess you're right.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:23
Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia SGM once a few times (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM Asia whom I happen to quite like.


Out of curiosity, why did you decide to do this poll.  Was it because both have many detractors?

I mean I can say that Asia is maybe the worst band that would spring to my mind in Prog Related, and SGM would've been the first to spring to my mind as least liked in the RIO/Avant prog category (it's actually quite well liked by various people who are not seriously into RIO/Avant music).  Or perhaps you chose SGM because you thought it would give Asia a chance to win?

It's not surprising that SGM would be leading because Asia is a much maligned stuporgroup.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:26
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia SGM once a few times (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM Asia whom I happen to quite like.


Out of curiosity, why did you decide to do this poll.  Was it because both have many detractors?

I mean I can say that Asia is maybe the worst band that would spring to my mind in Prog Related, and SGM would've been the first to spring to my mind as least liked in the RIO/Avant prog category (it's actually quite well liked by various people who are not seriously into RIO/Avant music).  Or perhaps you chose SGM because you thought it would give Asia a chance to win?

It's not surprising that SGM would be leading because Asia is a much maligned stuporgroup.
SGM are the least liked in Avant? That's news to me.
 
I guess I can sort of understand liking Asia, but you shouldn't be surprised that most people prefer almost anything else.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:29
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.
Of course! Those of us that voted Asia are merely idiots aren't we? So sad that I have no taste.


You have taste, even if it's bad taste.  ;)

I probably like some music that you also like so I guess you're right.


Zing!

As I always say, to each his or her own tastes.  Most members here  can't help but share some tastes even if they would rather not share any of the same tastes with certian people.  I might move to CrunkArchives so I could feel fairly assured of my own musical palette's superiority, but really  I don't think my taste is objectively good -- just good for me.

You like Asia, I prefer Area.  Vive la difference.


Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:32
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia SGM once a few times (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM Asia whom I happen to quite like.


Out of curiosity, why did you decide to do this poll.  Was it because both have many detractors?

I mean I can say that Asia is maybe the worst band that would spring to my mind in Prog Related, and SGM would've been the first to spring to my mind as least liked in the RIO/Avant prog category (it's actually quite well liked by various people who are not seriously into RIO/Avant music).  Or perhaps you chose SGM because you thought it would give Asia a chance to win?

It's not surprising that SGM would be leading because Asia is a much maligned stuporgroup.
My brain ticks in quite simple ways, I was going over my collection and got stuck at the Asia albums, wich I like quite a lot. Suddenly I thought: The majority of PA Forum Users probably hate Asia, they will probably find them cheesy, poppy, too AOR, etc. Then I thought of bands I find irritating, headache causing, absolutely unlikeable, etc, but who are probaly considered very prog, very avantgarde, very cool by the good folks on the PA forum. SGM came up! Voila - that´s why I paired them.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:33
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia SGM once a few times (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM Asia whom I happen to quite like.


Out of curiosity, why did you decide to do this poll.  Was it because both have many detractors?

I mean I can say that Asia is maybe the worst band that would spring to my mind in Prog Related, and SGM would've been the first to spring to my mind as least liked in the RIO/Avant prog category (it's actually quite well liked by various people who are not seriously into RIO/Avant music).  Or perhaps you chose SGM because you thought it would give Asia a chance to win?

It's not surprising that SGM would be leading because Asia is a much maligned stuporgroup.
SGM are the least liked in Avant? That's news to me.
 
I guess I can sort of understand liking Asia, but you shouldn't be surprised that most people prefer almost anything else.


I didn't mean that SGM is the least liked in the RIO/Avant category, I meant that it was the one that I least liked (thought that was clear especially considering my earlier post), and I have a very large collection of music in that category.  Having revisted it, I do like the band more.  Still, I don't think it's ever going to become as liked as say Art Zoyd to me.  I'm curious why the poll starter thought of this poll.  EDIT: which I see he answered well above.  Thanks, Manuel.


Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 13:33

Asia is terrible, but there is Prog Metal, Rap and R&B that is still far worse.


So vote for MSG!
Eh, I mean SGM


Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 14:50
The Museum.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 02:49
Sleepy sleepy sleepy.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 12:02
Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is not only better than Asia, but better than every band.

...this


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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 22:46
SGM for sure... Asia definitely not.


Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: April 15 2011 at 22:58
I really love SGM. I have a hard time sitting through the only Asia album I own, which is their debut. 


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 10:52
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.
Of course! Those of us that voted Asia are merely idiots aren't we? So sad that I have no taste.
No, they just force themselves to think that a supergroup gathering people from their favourite prog bands must be good.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 10:55
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.
Of course! Those of us that voted Asia are merely idiots aren't we? So sad that I have no taste.
No, they just force themselves to think that a supergroup gathering people from their favourite prog bands must be good.

Of course. Pinch

Interesting theory that I have forced myself to like them. But wrong.


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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 11:19
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Having only ever listened to Asia once (and it was dreadful), I'll vote for SGM whom I happen to quite like.
Of course! Those of us that voted Asia are merely idiots aren't we? So sad that I have no taste.
No, they just force themselves to think that a supergroup gathering people from their favourite prog bands must be good.

Of course. Pinch

Interesting theory that I have forced myself to like them. But wrong.
I liked Asia even before I knew they where a Supergroup! So yes, I agree with Snow Dog, this theory is wrong.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 11:50

^

ok, so maybe it's linked to the cover ?
 
Because the music is really rubbish (and I am objective / I am a very eclectic guy, I like a lot of pop, but Asia is just nothing).


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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 12:36
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

^

ok, so maybe it's linked to the cover ?
 
Because the music is really rubbish (and I am objective / I am a very eclectic guy, I like a lot of pop, but Asia is just nothing).
Mon Dieu, than I have a rubbish taste in music! Shocked
Believe it or not I really like Asia (also saw them 2 time live). I also consider myself to have an eclectic taste, but unlike you, Pop does not doe much for me, I like next to Prog, Metal. Country, and Classical also  AOR/Meldic Rock so that might explain my rubbish taste respectively my love for Asia


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 16 2011 at 15:39
Originally posted by King Manuel King Manuel wrote:

I like [...] AOR/Meldic Rock so that might explain my rubbish taste respectively my love for Asia
 
My avy is an album of AOR, so no it doesn't explain your love for Asia.


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Posted By: LandofLein
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 02:10
Neither

These results shows how backward you prog weirdos are



Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 02:27
Originally posted by LandofLein LandofLein wrote:

Neither

These results shows how backward you prog weirdos are

LOLLOLLOL


Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 21:22
Though the two bands have mostly the same compositional style and instrumentation, I'll have to go with Sleepytime for their wonderful crossover appeal for fans of trash can sounds and home-made instruments.

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 17 2011 at 21:28
SGM because they're not Asia.

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 18:56
Gotta be SGM for two reasons: 1) they're amazing, and 2) I don't have any Asia discs.

(Btw, when is there going to be some new SGM material?)




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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 19:17
^ they broke up.


Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: April 18 2011 at 19:53
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

SGM because they're not Asia.


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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 01:28
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Gotta be SGM for two reasons: 1) they're amazing, and 2) I don't have any Asia discs.

(Btw, when is there going to be some new SGM material?)


Never, the good news is they broke up!LOL


Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 02:01
Nice to see Sleepy time doing so well.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 19 2011 at 02:42
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

^ they broke up.

They're releasing a final studio album, live DVD, and short film, though. There's no more information about any of those things.

Unfortunately, there's a decent chance Asia will have a new album as well. 



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