Hammill's Generator Vs Collin's Genesis.
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Topic: Hammill's Generator Vs Collin's Genesis.
Posted By: Zargus
Subject: Hammill's Generator Vs Collin's Genesis.
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 19:42
Both albums was made in 1976 and both have an orange cover artwork. Seems like a fair poll to me.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 19:48
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Still Life ------------- 
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 10 2011 at 20:11
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Trick of the Tail is actually my favorite Genesis album, along with Foxtrot. I simply cannot stand Peter Hammill's absurd vocal inflections. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 02:18
| Both aren't my favourite from each band, but A Trick is near masterpiece for me. So it is. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 02:22
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They got no horns, and they got no tail...... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 03:00
To me as well  . My vote goes to Still Life.------------- 
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Zargus wrote:Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 03:28
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 03:40
I prefer A Trick Of The Tail, although the colour of its cover seems to me rather like beige than orange, or am I colour-blind? ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 04:50
| Still Life, of course. Trick is kind of a low division effort for me ... |
Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 06:14
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Trick of the tail for me...just
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 06:22
| Two great albums for me, but Trick slightly ahead. |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 08:11
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Still Life. +++ I think Genesis of 1976 is Hackett's - that's why these (+W&W) albums are great. TTWH is Banks' Genesis as to the rest - it's Collins'. Unfortunately for GENESIS ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: bucka001
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 09:45
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Loved Trick... when I was younger (late 70's, early 80's). Then got into VdGG and never looked back. Heard parts of Trick for the fist time in years round about '05. Man... I couldn't believe how horribly it had aged. Just the aged synth sounds that Tony Banks uses on his Robbery Assault & Battery solo, the so-sounding-like-70's fusion-y ending to Dance on a Volcano, etc. There are definitely some beautiful moments on the album (Ripples, Squonk), but it just sounds like a 1976 album to me.
The main difference between the albums (or, at least, one of the main differences) is Hugh Banton vs. Tony Banks. Banton plays a straight-ahead Hammond organ on the Still Life album, and he frickin' rocks on it. When the band kicks in on the title tune, the tone of those Hammond crunch chords is evil and rocks like nobody's business. The Hammond will never age. No ARP synths, etc. Those mega-keyboards (and Banks' style) just traps the Genesis album in '76. Banton, on the other hand, is just a genius on the whole VdGG album, and his playing sounds fresh today.
Still Life has real fire and drive, and It just rocks in a way that Trick doesn't. La Rossa sounds like the Sex Pistols if they didn't have bass guitar and six string guitar, but rather Hammond w/bass pedals and saxophone. ------------- jc |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:22
Simply not true. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:41
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Trick for me ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:48
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A trick of the tail!
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 10:54
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 11:44
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Still Life is a good VdGG album, but A Trick Of The Tail is a very strong album. I chose Genesis.
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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: April 11 2011 at 15:06
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Love both, but Still Life for me. The best parts of ATotT are five stars in my book (Dance, Mad Man, Ripples and Los Endos, the rest is four stars) while the whole of Still Life deserves five stars.
------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 01:54
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Can't vote, love both albums equally! ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: April 12 2011 at 02:00
| Easy Choice, Still Life |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 07:01
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The Emperor have fallen, the litle Generator have slayed the mighty Genesis. -------------
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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: April 14 2011 at 07:51
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The last really good Genesis album for me is Wind & Wuthering, then their star started slowly descending... But in this case it's Genesis who wins. I've got accustomed to Peter Hammill singing, but he's a long shot from my internal vocalists first league. And although I'm not frenzy from Collins singing too, ATOTT is better as the record itself. ------------- 
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: May 05 2011 at 14:34
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I prefer Gabriel Genesis and First Generation VDGG but if I had to choose I'd pick Still Life over Trick of the Tail. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 05 2011 at 15:15
| I like both, but definitely Still Life for me. |
Posted By: Heathcliffe
Date Posted: May 05 2011 at 17:14
| Trick of the Tail. Great album. |
Posted By: Hoipolloi
Date Posted: May 05 2011 at 21:11
| Both are amazing. Still Life for me |
Posted By: giselle
Date Posted: May 06 2011 at 02:18
| Not really a fair comparison in my opinion; a heavyweight versus a lightweight. But a very nice lightweight too, just a different kind of strength. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 06 2011 at 07:39
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A Trick of the Tail would be in my top five albums of all time, Still Life would probably be in my top 10, so Trick gets the vote. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: May 06 2011 at 15:14
| Definitely Still Life |
Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: May 06 2011 at 17:47
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A Trick of the Tail is decent but Still Life is one of my favorite VDGG albums.
------------- Once upon a time there was some writing on the wall we all ignored, until the time that there was war and feasts of famine at our door |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 12:24
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VDGG ! one more heaven gained. ------------- omri |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 15:31
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Tough call, but ATOTT just about has the edge for me - probably their strongest studio album overall. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: May 10 2011 at 15:33
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Good poll. Trick is phenomenal, but I think I have to say Still Life is superior. ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 11:02
| VDGG |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 11:26
That's pretty un-prog of you.
 Still Life for me although Trick of the Tail is better than what most Philesis haters think it is. And I'm a Philesis hater. ------------- http://blindpoetrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: May 14 2011 at 11:30
A New World Record - Electric Light Orchestra 
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 10:51
| A very touch choice and a well placed comparison. Still Life was perhaps the best thought out VDGG album and perhaps least dated. TOTT effectively silenced the band's detractors but may have been a little soft in spots to challenge its competition from across the label. |
Posted By: esky
Date Posted: May 16 2011 at 10:53
| Robbery Assault and Battery knocks Genesis out of this comparison, but I do enjoy it. Should have been a B-Side. Everything on Still Life is stellar. |
Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 12:28
| Generator. |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 13:39
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VDGG, but personally, it's a pretty close match. I love the emotion and drama on Still Life, that is somewhat absent on A Trick Of The Tail.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 14:38
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Anything beats Trick of the Tail, for some reason i've never really liked it. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 15:04
| VDGG for me. |
Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 15:45
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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 16:40
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Still Life. A Trick of The Tail is also great, but it cannot beat this. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: July 05 2012 at 18:47
| Still... Life. |