Phil Collins Retires from Music
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Topic: Phil Collins Retires from Music
Posted By: moe_blunts
Subject: Phil Collins Retires from Music
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 15:45
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http://abcnews.go.com/Health/slideshow/phil-collins-retires-health-problems-6638908" rel="nofollow - http://abcnews.go.com/Health/slideshow/phil-collins-retires-health-problems-6638908 I don't really enjoy his solo stuff but Genesis, aside from being the most appropriately named band on the planet, is...well....good. lol Here is to a speedy convalescence. And my favorite song off of Selling England ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent"> 
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 15:49
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Aw man...
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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 15:55
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This saddens me very much....now I will never have a chance to see Genesis, my favorite band ever, play live.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 16:06
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I agree...the Genesis reunion will never be. That sux. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 16:09
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I thought this was a bumped thread at first.
Shame he had to go out for health reasons though. An excellent drummer. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 16:14
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Collins says
Phil Collins: "I don't think anyone's going to miss me"
Well on that account he is mistaken - Collins will be missed and it means no Genesis reunion unless we see them with another drummer. Its sad news but Collins leaves behind a legacy of great music. Phenomenal drummer, phenomenal singer. Oh well, roll on the tribute bands and compilations. ------------- 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 16:14
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I read another piece somewhere where he talked about being suicidal, not sure if he was kidding or not. I wonder if the guy has some undiagnosed depression goin' on. To say "no one will miss me" is either delusional or joking, but sounds a bit dark again.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 16:20
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I think if he reads the forums at various prog rock websites that would probably go a long way to causing depression. ------------- 
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 16:28
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I hope he doesnt take that too seriously. Forums overall are giving him credit for the Genesis fanbase. Collins kept the dream alive after so many years. The DVD Genesis LIve in Rome is now a classic, the last great Genesis tour with Collins! -------------
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Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 16:44
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A shame that such a distinguished career should end like this. It's rare to find someone who can play drums in an otherworldly fashion and have an incredible voice as well, and not a bad pianist either. A very talented man i hope we still hear from him in some way in the future. -------------  
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 17:07
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Phillip collins' discography is great, and genesis is only a part of this, don't forget the collaborations with John Martyn, Mike Oldfield, Jethro Tull, Anthony Phillips, Steve Hackett, Elliott Murphy, Peter Gabriel, Café Jacques and Brand X. Also, his solo discography is quite good, his cover of "tomorrow never knows" is excellent. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 17:12
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I'm happy to have caught Genesis in 92. Not exactly Foxtrot-cool, but it was a whole lotta fun anyway. We had 4th row seat in front of this speaker that was as tall as a bus. The bass literally shook your body.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 17:30
 Collins will never retire for me until I retire permanently. Hope his latter years find him some relief over his health problems.------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
lucas wrote:Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 17:59
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He sorta said this in a recent interview---but I was hoping against hope he'd do a Second's Out tour---and just sing with Chester on drums. I lost hope Peter would ever do a tour---because he would have done it by now. I like Phil with Genesis--not all of it but 70% of it. The past week I've been listening to 3 Sides Live and enjoying it--some great singing and drumming. It's too bad the two greatest writers of beautiful melody-- Banks and Hackett-- could make some great prog together, don't get together to keep hope alive. Why Banks hates Hackett so much I will never know. If Genesis is finished, my only hope is if Banks and Hackett make some music.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 03:04
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Didn't he announce this before, possibly several times? http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48866" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48866
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61176" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61176
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 05:07
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I wouldn't be surprised if Phil was persuaded someday to join a Genesis reunion, that is of course if Banks and Hackett are still breathing |
Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 07:59
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I briefly caught some of his recent concert in NY on tv yesterday, where he was singing all those old Motown tunes, the first thing that struck me was how old and frail and a little unsure of himself he was, it shocked me, i hope there isn't something more serious wrong with him. It is a sad day that he's retiring and that he also feels hated.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 08:07
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I do feel sorry. Another drummer stops after Bruford, though for totally different reasons.
I do hope he finds some fun in being retired, and he doesn't fall into a depression.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 08:20
Yes he has, and I think Jim is right about there being underlying depression issues. Still, a shame, he's given me a great deal of pleasure over the years. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 08:23
Damn... No Genesis reunion after all.  Really a shame this is due to health issues.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 08:44
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This recent vocal is lovely and feels like a goodbye. Check out the look on his face during the break about half way through. I don't play Phil solo stuff much, but I'll miss the guy too if he stays retired. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 09:00
Wait wait wait, More Fool Me is your favorite song on SEBTP!?
He's probably upset about the hipsters celebrating http://gothamist.com/2011/02/16/we_were_there_phil_collins_day_para.php#photo-1" rel="nofollow - Phil Collins day . ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 18:44
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Some quotes from him
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He claims that it was this success and the overplaying of his music which made people "want to strangle" him.
Yeah. He sounds pretty damned depressed. |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 06:48
| This is terrible news. He makes it sound like he's in major pain too from his statement. |
Posted By: Alberto Muńoz
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 09:16
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bad news, hope that he recover and can play again
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 10:06
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It was about time. I was already sure the band would never reunite except the pathetic trio. I wish the best for Phil, and hope his ears and hands get better, but I won't miss his music or him as a singer. Hard but honest Iván
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 10:22
| Dunno, as a solo artist he was still like Elton John: you could tell which Disney-tunes were his and which ones not. I'm going to miss his contributions. But it's true what he says, there's no place for his ballads in the mainstream world of today :( |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 15:49
| However, for me he did much better pop music than the one that is being done nowdays. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 17:38
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my favourite Phil song, todays pop music do not reach this level of emotional expression
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 17:44
I won't lol |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 18:11
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I thought he'd retired from 'music' years ago? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Thandrus
Date Posted: March 06 2011 at 22:50
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This is very sad. And he indeed sounds depressed... Anyways, has there been any official announcement? I can't find anything on his official site. Anyways, he will really be missed. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 01:54
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 02:30
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I thought he already hadn't been doing anything for a while...? ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 08:33
Brr. I found that harrowing. By the quotes posted in here, I'd really like it if he had a long talk with someone  |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 09:51
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I guess this is the official, official release from Phil.......I just read the CNN post on this. I agree, before coming here he did sound very disappointed with what he now hears and sees on MTV and probably Grammy award shows. I also hear undertones of depression...hopefully that is just a sign of retiring...but I agree with all.
I am not surprised if there is depression, I mean he made his living playing drums and singing...he can't play drums anymore and with hearing issues probably has difficult time singing comfortably...What else does he have?
Hopefully he will at least continue to write music and maybe produce for other artists.......in time.
I hope all the best for him....this is one band I never got to see live and is one I will always regret not seeing!! -------------   
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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 14:53
| This man is not depressed. He's been in the studio, released an album, touring, doing interviews while looking in good shape. He has a strong ego/personality and better be saying what he is saying to align with reality. And, he's got a strong sense of humour. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 07 2011 at 20:49
| Just read some new news---His people just announced he IS NOT retiring ---he is on a hiatus and will return---he needs a long rest to heal and be with his kids----so, the statement he made was some kind of misunderstanding---or some kind of mistake. |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 04:24
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Hurray! ------------- http://www.thefreshfilmblog.com/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 04:28
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a307631/rep-phil-collins-not-retiring.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a307631/rep-phil-collins-not-retiring.html
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 06:38
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1. If this is some sort of elaborate hoax to raise his dwindling noughties profile, he's clearly still full of the same s.h.i.t he's been peddling for years 2. If he has genuine mental issues then I do naturally sympathise and wish him a speedy recovery and an even speedier retirement. ------------- 
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 07:00
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Maybe he should do one last farewell tour with Steve Hackett- heaps would attend the concerts. -------------
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 07:56
that would be so amazing and Hackett's live playing has been so great lately----it seems Steve and the long time fans deserve it (but don't get your hopes up as his royal highness Anthony Banks has said he would only do a tour with Hackett if Gabriel was also involved, which is unlikely)
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 15:51
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Many members of great 70's bands have felt the itch to reunite when they were about 60 years old in the past few years. ------------- 
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Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 15:53
According to the Guardian he's retired:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9535474" rel="nofollow - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9535474
The whole thing is very confusing  ------------- ''Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.'' - Albert Camus |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 17:22
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He IS retired. Official....from the horse's mouth. Just not for any of the crazy reasons put forth by journalists. Here is Phil's message to the fans, but yes, he is done. http://www.philcollins.com/us/news/breaking-news-message-phil" rel="nofollow - http://www.philcollins.com/us/news/breaking-news-message-phil ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 19:15
| Wait.... didn't he make this very same announcement like twice in the last two years already? |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 20:03
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Greetings to all, I've decided to write this in response to the articles that surfaced last weekend regarding my retirement. Why they were printed at all is a mystery, as I haven't spoken to anybody in the press for a few months. However, many of the articles printed over the last few months have
ended up painting a picture of me that is more than a little distorted.
Therefore, I would like to add my comments and try to explain again my
reasons for calling it a day. 1/ I'm not stopping because of dodgy reviews or bad treatment in the press. 2/ I'm not stopping because I don't feel loved, I know I still have a very large fanbase that loves what I do. Thank you. 3/ I'm not stopping because I don't fit in, this was proved with "Going Back" reaching No 1 in the UK, and doing incredibly well worldwide. 4/ I'm not stopping so I can dive full time into my interest for the Alamo. I am stopping so I can be a full time father to my two young sons on a daily basis. Some of the things mentioned above have been said by me in various interviews, but said as asides with a smile on my face and in passing. They were not meant to be "headlines", they were small parts of a conversation. This clearly doesn't come over in print and I should know better. However, the result is that I have ended up sounding like a tormented weirdo who thinks he was at the Alamo in another life, who feels very sorry for himself, and is retiring hurt because of the bad press over the years. None of this is true. Thanks for all your messages on the Forum regarding this stuff, it means a lot that you care.
http://www.philcollins.com/us/news/breaking-news-message-phil" rel="nofollow - http://www.philcollins.com/us/news/breaking-news-message-phil |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 20:10
| I don't think Phil's closing the door forever, he wants to raise his kids---and I think it's rather silly to announce retirement---Bruford is a case in point--he was in great shape and so many jazz drummers work into their 70's--so when he stopped it fueled speculation something was wrong---just stop playing and doing gigs---don't announce anything---you never know an opportunity may come your way that will get you playing again--Like the Red line-up for Bill or the Seconds Out line-up for Phil. LOL |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 08 2011 at 21:34
Agreed. When did The Who do their Farewell tour, like 82?
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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 13:47
Yeah, but not only is Collins Moon dead, his Entwistle is dead and he is like 60 years old. Oh wait, the Who kept past that too.... |
Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 13:48
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I won't be coming home tonight my generation will put it right were not just making promises we know we'll never keep... -my headphones |
Posted By: SMSM
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 17:14
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I saw his notalagic lounge lizard act on PBS,
Sorry but he can't appeal to the baby boomer grannys as Rod Stewart does, and he won't make any money at it.
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Posted By: zdunne
Date Posted: March 10 2011 at 17:20
| I will always have a soft spot for Collins music because he was one of the first artists I was exposed to when I was a toddler when my mother had cassettes of both his solo albums and Genesis ones. All I can say is that at least we have the music to listen to still even if this is the end of the road as it will always be a part of my childhood even if never saw him live. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 11 2011 at 04:02
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Posted By: RoyFairbank
Date Posted: March 16 2011 at 09:51
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Phil, I will always love you! Forget these unworthies! Genesis 4ever! (Or preferably 5ever) |