Buying CDs Vs. Downloading Music
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Topic: Buying CDs Vs. Downloading Music
Posted By: The_Jester
Subject: Buying CDs Vs. Downloading Music
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 16:38
Excuse me for the double thread, I took the wrong option  . I wanted to know what prog people like to do to get their music.------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 16:45
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I only download if it's the only viable option. I'm a hard copy kind of guy.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 16:58
Yeah, you can't beat the real thing. |
Slartibartfast wrote:Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 17:32
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I'll buy the vinyl if it is made on vinyl, if it isn't, I will buy the CD. But I will NEVER pay for files (or illegally download them.). I do burn the CDs on my computer, though. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 17:32
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CDs for my main collection, and because I have CD players everywhere and MP3 players everywhere else. Vinyls for "trophies" or albums I can't find in other formats, but I'm much less comfortable with the format and they are much less convenient for me and more difficult to rip to mp3 for when I'm out. MP3 for the very rare case where I really want to listen to an artist but can't find any hard copy anywhere.
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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 17:38
------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 20:01
| I prefer CDs but if the album is hard to find or too expensive, I'll download it. I have no use for iPods (yet). If I can still play CDs in my Discman, DVD player, computer or car stereo, what do I need an iPod for? Whatever mp3s I have get burned to a disc. |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 20:30
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I use an iPod because it is portable and has 160 gigabytes and I can burn all of my Cds on it. :)
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 21:56
I'm old enough to remember buying vinyl in the mid to late seventies.I switched to cassettes in the early eighties only because i spent so much time listening to tunes in my car.Cd's would replace my cassettes and vinyl. I think i downloaded once,it's just not my scene i guess. All my music is on cds.Does anyone have some shelving they want to sell ? ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 22:26
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I have more than 2000 cds. At an average of 10 tracks per album (classical or rock or anything else), I have 20000. I have 2780 songs in itunes. The math is clear. And if we count how much I actually ever use itunes, then the answer is even clearer. So many useless words just to say I prefer cds. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 22:39
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I'm a convert. My CD collection has become a couple of 500 pound gorillas. I now buy MP3's from Amazon. Now that most are high quality VBR you get great quality and usually a digital art package. But I absolutely, positively will not use ITunes. I don't want to be dictated what device I use for my listening.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 22:46
Pretty much encapsulates my thoughts.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 22:58
I use iTunes and I haven't received any order as to what to use. I like iPhones and iPods you know. Some people apparently do. And now you can even sync to iTunes with android-run devices... -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 23 2011 at 23:08
First person to mention piracy in this thread will eventually die.
You know, iTunes dropped DRM for most songs http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1711" rel="nofollow - over a year ago . ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 00:05
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CD's 99% of the time, MP3 when I can't have a CD. Vinyl as well as CD's for albums I absolutely adore. ------------- 
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Posted By: El Pollo Guerrera
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 00:11
| 99% CD's. If there's a specific song I'm looking for and A) don't want to buy a whole CD for and B) it's from an established/big/famous/classic artist (The Who, Van Halen, KISS, etc.) I will download it. |
Posted By: clarkpegasus4001
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 00:12
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Cd's for me, I still have some vinyl (not much). I NEVER download. I only copy cd's for the car usually to make "best of''s" or if I need a quick copy to learn something for a gig. I always buy the cd if I like it though.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 00:38
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I usually prefer to buy CDs (just in case my PC takes a dump). I would probably download more if more albums could be parted out. Let's face it, some albums only have one or two good songs on them, but it's infuriating when you can't get a single song and have to purchase a whole friggin' album.
For instance, I'd really like to have "Fire" by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown, but it cannot be downloaded separately as the original album is only available on import, and I don't want to pay an extortionate price for an album that is not very good simply to get one song. Bah! ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 01:13
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I enjoy many genres and my family enjoys different ones.....So I use Zune Marketplace because I can download all day long using my Zune Pass. If I find something I really enjoy I will look for the vinyl but usually end up with a CD...my kids like CD's.
So for my situation downloading works very well and it is very affordable.....I probably buy 4-6 CD's per month and download probably 20 albums a month.
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 10:39
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Hmmm, I suppose I'm one of the few that prefers downloads. Thank you Amazon! It's just so much quicker than waiting for a CD (which is generally more expensive). The quality of MP3s are great. Don't get me wrong, when I see CDs at a reasonable price (which is hard, seeing as there isn't a decent record shop in miles), I jump all over. ------------- 
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 10:40
I don't care about the lack of DRM, I care that iTunes is a terrible piece of software.
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 10:49
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Downloading music legally has been my preferred option for the last couple of years - but I'll still make an exception for particularly nice digipack or vinyl releases. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 21:41
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Buying cds.
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 22:39
You live in LA. You have Amoeba. There's simply no excuse for you to be downloading! |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: February 24 2011 at 23:10
I figured you might chime in about that sometime!
 To be honest, I've never been, but I've been wanting to for quite some time. Been busy, busy, busy.
Hmmm, perhaps tomorrow actually. I'll see what treasures I can find -------------
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Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 01:19
It's amazing how people get conned into believing that a stored sequence of ones and zeroes qualifies as a "hard copy" or "real thing" ... to me there's little difference to a download content-wise. Hey, I can store all my downloads on silver discs - does that make them "hard copies"? ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 01:29
Certainly, with a clear emphasis on copies. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 02:13
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I only buy CDs now if they're really cheap (bought a Janelle Monae and Steve Roach CD from the library throwaway shelf for $.25 each recently) or if the band really needs money/guilt trips the hell out of you (oh hey Pendragon! Didn't see you over there...)
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 02:14
fix'd. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: bogg808
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 03:20
| CD's ftw, a physical copy is always so much better |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 04:20
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There was a time when I could go to my local shop, pick an album, ask the vendor to play it, and if I liked it I would take it. Can't do that anymore, because there is no ready available material that I might be interested in. That's why these days I mostly download new stuff, and I proudly do so illegally (not willing to pay to have invisible albums). I listen, and what I like I try to purchase, if possible from the artist itself. If I don't like it, I delete it. Of course I would much rather have physical copies to digital ones, and on the physical realm, vinyl to CD's ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 10:47
The only "real thing" would be some inexistent way of hearing the recording being played live over and over again. But unless you use the best compression formats (non-compressed actually), CD quality is still better than your average mp3. Not that you will notice it with those atrocious apple headphones but I'm sure you know and have proved it yourself (you're very techie  ) that with a good amp/receiver and real good headphones you CAN hear the difference. Even I, the same track on my iphone and on my denon component with sennheiser headphones: in the first one, sounds ok; in the second, I hear some things I didn't hear in the former. -------------
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Posted By: Paravion
Date Posted: February 25 2011 at 11:00
Is this debate a degenerated version of the classic "CD vs. Vinyl?" |
Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 16:14
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Vinyls have a much more beautiful sound than CDs up to me but they're hard to find or expensive when you import them. ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 16:26
Same here. ------------- A fun place to review and discuss metal: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - MetalMusicArchives |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 17:46
Just about me all over, and I started my collection back in the vinyl days. To me there is absolutely no difference between a legal MP3 download and a piece of plastic, ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 18:19
Yep, same here too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 21:23
| I live in a small town where anything more obscure than Porcupine Tree is impossible to find. They have PT though. iTunes is my main music source. |
Posted By: Hanyou
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 22:09
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I download. There seems to be an undercurrent of animosity toward not having physical copies in much of the music world. I'm not sure why. I pay for the music--it's what I return to, and it would likely end up on my computer (copied several times over for backup) anyway. In addition, my current place of residence isn't permanent. I cut down on what I own as much as possible so that I have mobility. Once I settle down it would make more sense to get hard copies, but even then, I wouldn't really see the point. This isn't just for music, either--I get games digitally when I can, and I don't even buy movies anymore (I have Netflix). Haven't made the switch for books yet--I can't justify the asking price for a Kindle--but I imagine I'm probably going to shed those one day as well. I remember hearing Bruce Dickinson rant one time about how files weren't albums or somesuch. Whatever. Sounds the same to me, I'm good.
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 22:22
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I like buying CDs more, but I find myself relying on the Itunes store more and more these days. I only download illegally if the album is long out of print and no money would be going to the original artists if I spent money on it. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 22:34
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I mostly download, but I buy more than a fair amount of hard copies.
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: March 01 2011 at 23:03
| I buy CDs, mostly... although I have caught myself downloading lately much more than I usually used to. |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 03:07
| I try to download only. Amazon makes it so easy and I don't have to worry about shipping costs, or the cd itself, which just wastes space that I don't have and only adds to the clutter I do have. It's way easier to manage computer files than actual albums. |
Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 09:33
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I strictly buy music in CD or vinyl form unless there's no feasible way of finding a hard copy somewhere. -------------  
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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 09:34
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If there's no copy I import the CD from sites like Wayside music so I still have the hard copy. ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 15:45
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In the end of January, I bought... a 7'' from a French grindcore band. Sometimes, I even consider buying some K7 from obscure experimental noise bands/artists that I can find at one of my favorite record stores... or some CD-R from some free-jazz musicians... I'm not even snobbish, but I have hard times with mp3: I can't help burning mp3 on CD-R, I nearly can't "trust" the digital format! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 15:52
CD-Rs degrade, so that's not a good plan, really. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 15:56
| My first CD-R I burned in the year 2000 still works. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 16:03
Same.
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 02 2011 at 16:14
They degrade... Yes, but not on the same speed - it depends on the model, from what I understood. After all, they don't degrade in ONE year. I still have CD-Rs from 2003 or 2004. Six or seven isn't not very long (especillay compared to the K7 I bought in 1992!), but I will... wait and see. Moreover, I wonder if we will be able to read mp3 in the next decade. The next technological evolutions, the problems of compatibility of formats, the possible degradations of the digital format itself... don't really preach for total trust over mp3 (FLAC or OGG maybe? I'm not even sure about these ones!). In fact, I'm considering on a semi-serious basis if I'm not going to record all my CD-Rs on... K7! It's semi-serious, I don't really plan to do it. Not yet. Not this week-end. But one day, maybe... |
Posted By: DanthraX
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 18:54
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How I wish to have all my music collection in original cd's, but how or where the hell i'm going to find, for example, RPI albums here in my country? Is impossble ------------- I look up, I'm almost blinded by the warmth of what's inside me and the taste that's in my soul, but I'm dead inside as I stand alone... |
Posted By: AllP0werToSlaves
Date Posted: March 04 2011 at 20:01
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I will always buy physical regardless of the current media. Without liner notes, artwork, etc it's not an album for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 21:19
Exactly! I don't quite understand the vinyl "elitism".  -------------
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Posted By: MillsLayne
Date Posted: March 05 2011 at 22:01
Same here. For me, an album is about not only the music, but the album cover and everything else. The complete package. ------------- http://gamercards.exophase.com/xbox/user/MillsLayne/" rel="nofollow">  ht |
Posted By: Mia
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:11
| CD's for sure, I occasionally download but thats usually for soundtracks. |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:27
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Well I like owning things but Downloading is incredibly economically efficient. Plus it allows me to download what I want, not the most recent excessively loud remasters only. ------------- Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell? I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:33
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if i dont buy a physical copy, i almost never connect emotionally to an album. Sure I'll get into some songs, or even the whole thing, but it's just not the same. Memories that go with buying the record/receiving it/opening it up/that first listen/etc is not the same as just clicking a mouse a couple of times, then hitting play.
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:36
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Buying CDs. Except in cases of free and legal downloads. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 29 2011 at 17:49
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Option 2 and 3. I use Zune Marketplace, then I can burn to CD if need, but normally just plug in my device to the home system. Prefer vinyl as that is what I grew up on, plenty of record stores here in the Seattle/Tacoma area, sell both used and new vinyl.
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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 21:00
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I think I'd download music only if it's the only choice left for me. ------------- La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle! - Napoléon Bonaparte |
Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 10:23
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I don't buy CDs, and I don't download either. There are already enough albums to listen to on my hard drive -- oh, you're asking me how I got those albums? I might have got them from Google. ------------- 
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: April 03 2011 at 14:41
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I just bought three CDs and one CD-R and was given a 3-CD boxset today. I'm a neurotic, obsessive collector. |