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Topic: 3 favorite post Hackett Genesis studio albums
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Subject: 3 favorite post Hackett Genesis studio albums
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 21:49
What are your 3 favorite post Hackett Genesis studio albums? Here are mine:



And then there were three (it gets a lot of criticism-I'd say it's their most under rated album)

Duke

Genesis (the shapes album-this one just barely beats out invisible touch for me mainly because of home by the sea and second home by the sea).



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 13:47
Mine: the same as you, Prog_Traveller.
 
And Then There Were Three (probably my favourite Genesis album after Selling England By The Pound)
 
Duke (I like the suite a lot especially: the opening and closing tracks of the album).
 
Genesis (I could even say the same that it barely beats Invisible Touch, and my favourite songs are also Home By The Sea and the Second Home. But I like all of the album.)


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 13:50
Duke - classic
Abacab - a couple of biscuits short of a classic, but excellent nonetheless
Invisible Touch - some exceptional moments in amongst some average shorter stuff.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 14:03
  1. Invisible Touch
  2. Abacab
  3. Genesis


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 14:05
And then there were 3....

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Posted By: wilmon91
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 14:21
 
And Then There Were Three (1978) (good tracks: all of them, except Many too Many, Say it's alright Joe and Follow you follow me)
 
We Can't Dance (1991)     (Good tracks: Dreaming while you sleep, Tell Me Why, Living Forever, Hold On My Heart)(worst song: Never a time)
 
Duke (1980)       (favourites are Turn it on it again and Please don't Ask but I also like Guide Vocal, Heathaze and Duke's travels)
 
 
 


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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 16:35
Abacab
Duke
Invisible Touch


Posted By: AllP0werToSlaves
Date Posted: January 12 2011 at 10:53
"Home By The Sea" is my favorite post-Hackett Genesis song, so I'd have to say that by default that album wins for me. I couldn't pick the other two though.


Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: January 12 2011 at 16:28
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Duke - classic
Abacab - a couple of biscuits short of a classic, but excellent nonetheless
Invisible Touch - some exceptional moments in amongst some average shorter stuff.

I agree.


Posted By: jean-marie
Date Posted: January 12 2011 at 18:09
And then there were 3 , i realy love this one and so i'm happy to know i'm not the only one, i saw the tour with mirrors and laser,great!! 2 we can't dance, 3 duke, and i'd like to know what you all think about the dvd live in roma? great to meApprove


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 00:22
Duke is great.
ATTWT is fine but never really clicked for me.
Genesis (Mama) is far from deserving being called a good album even if Home By The Sea is ok.
I stopped buying their albums after that so I can not judge about any others.


Posted By: Harold-The-Barrel
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 02:46
and then there were three
Duke
Genesis.....but only just beating out Calling all stationsWink



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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 03:16
No 4- or 5-star albums after Hackett left.
 
1. Duke
2. Invisible Touch (quite a lot of ups 'n downs)
3. Genesis (Mama and 2nd Home by the Sea are still great)


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 04:26
1 - Duke
2 - And then there were three..
3 - Abacab

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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 06:59
For me there are only 2:
ATTWT and Duke. 


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 08:57
Three, Duke, and Abacrabs.  The only one I've never owned or heard in it's entirety is Dance


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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:03
stay away from Dance


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:07
Genesis died after W&W.

Iván


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 10:18
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

stay away from Dance

Unfortunately I have a video compilation that has stuff from the album.  Those bits are not fun and should be outlawed.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 11:34
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Genesis died after W&W.

Iván


Sorry Ivan, but my turn to have a go at pedant's corner.

No they didn't. What you mean is that you ceased to enjoy them after W & W, which is a totally different thing altogether, given that they proceeded to release a further seven studio albums, plus live and compilations, they clearly didn't "die", but actually resembled something relatively healthy, certainly judged upon sales.


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 11:44
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Genesis died after W&W.

Iván


Sorry Ivan, but my turn to have a go at pedant's corner.

No they didn't. What you mean is that you ceased to enjoy them after W & W, which is a totally different thing altogether, given that they proceeded to release a further seven studio albums, plus live and compilations, they clearly didn't "die", but actually resembled something relatively healthy, certainly judged upon sales.

In my opinion they died as a creative band to become a boring adult contemporary band.

Surely they didn't died economically (by the contrary), but they died musically (in my opinion of course).

Not pedantic, just honest.

Iván

 


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Posted By: tarkus1980
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 12:02
Genesis
Abacab
Duke
 
All 4-star albums. Haters gonna hate.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 12:02
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Genesis died after W&W.

Iván


Sorry Ivan, but my turn to have a go at pedant's corner.

No they didn't. What you mean is that you ceased to enjoy them after W & W, which is a totally different thing altogether, given that they proceeded to release a further seven studio albums, plus live and compilations, they clearly didn't "die", but actually resembled something relatively healthy, certainly judged upon sales.

In my opinion they died as a creative band to become a boring adult contemporary band.

Surely they didn't died economically (by the contrary), but they died musically (in my opinion of course).

Not pedantic, just honest.

Iván

 


And I respect your opinion, because at least it is based upon musical knowledge & tastes rather than puerile misled hatred of Collins. I do, though, very much disagree with that opinion. I have had years of pleasure listening to the post Hackett material, and I regard some of it as constituting some of the finest progressive rock of all time. As a very quick example, I still, 30 years on, get goosebumps listening to Dukes Travels/End.


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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 12:22
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Genesis died after W&W.

Iván


Sorry Ivan, but my turn to have a go at pedant's corner.

No they didn't. What you mean is that you ceased to enjoy them after W & W, which is a totally different thing altogether, given that they proceeded to release a further seven studio albums, plus live and compilations, they clearly didn't "die", but actually resembled something relatively healthy, certainly judged upon sales.

In my opinion they died as a creative band to become a boring adult contemporary band.

Surely they didn't died economically (by the contrary), but they died musically (in my opinion of course).

Not pedantic, just honest.

Iván

 


And I respect your opinion, because at least it is based upon musical knowledge & tastes rather than puerile misled hatred of Collins. I do, though, very much disagree with that opinion. I have had years of pleasure listening to the post Hackett material, and I regard some of it as constituting some of the finest progressive rock of all time. As a very quick example, I still, 30 years on, get goosebumps listening to Dukes Travels/End.
Way to go Lazland, could not agree with you moreThumbs Up

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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 12:32
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Genesis died after W&W.

Iván


Sorry Ivan, but my turn to have a go at pedant's corner.

No they didn't. What you mean is that you ceased to enjoy them after W & W, which is a totally different thing altogether, given that they proceeded to release a further seven studio albums, plus live and compilations, they clearly didn't "die", but actually resembled something relatively healthy, certainly judged upon sales.

In my opinion they died as a creative band to become a boring adult contemporary band.

Surely they didn't died economically (by the contrary), but they died musically (in my opinion of course).

Not pedantic, just honest.

Iván

 


And I respect your opinion, because at least it is based upon musical knowledge & tastes rather than puerile misled hatred of Collins. I do, though, very much disagree with that opinion. I have had years of pleasure listening to the post Hackett material, and I regard some of it as constituting some of the finest progressive rock of all time. As a very quick example, I still, 30 years on, get goosebumps listening to Dukes Travels/End.
Way to go Lazland, could not agree with you moreThumbs Up


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Posted By: wilmon91
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 12:37
We Can't Dance is worth checking out for some good pop songs. In earlier 80's albums I think the sound feels dated, particularly in "Invisible Touch", which has some quality, but it hasn't aged well for me. I also think that the style in the 80's albums kind of falls between prog and pop, making it something of a compromise. Abacab is a good example of that.

So We can't Dance I like because of the pop quality, and nice sound.


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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 13:40
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Genesis died after W&W.

Iván
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:21
Nah, they didn't die but were coughing up some serious blood/

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Posted By: CloseToTheMoon
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 14:36
1. Duke - Honestly one of my favorites of any era.
2. ATTW3 - It gets slightly better every time. There's always a song I never liked, and suddenly I like it.
3. Invisible Touch - A very slight edge over Abacab. Mainly because it has fewer tracks.


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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:24
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Genesis died after W&W.

Iván


Other than the length of the songs I don't hear that much difference between W&W and Trick and ATTWT.




Posted By: Nov
Date Posted: January 13 2011 at 18:44
Originally posted by wilmon91 wilmon91 wrote:

 
And Then There Were Three (1978) (good tracks: all of them, except Many too Many, Say it's alright Joe and Follow you follow me)

"Many Too Many" is a gorgeous track. Have another listen Wink


Quote We Can't Dance (1991)     (Good tracks: Dreaming while you sleep, Tell Me Why, Living Forever, Hold On My Heart)(worst song: Never a time)
"Never A Time" is also a lovely little tune. Try again Wink





Posted By: CloseToTheMoon
Date Posted: January 16 2011 at 16:31
Many Too Many is one of the best ballads in their catalog. 

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Posted By: wilmon91
Date Posted: January 16 2011 at 20:15
Okay, another listen of Many Too Many. It starts off pretty nice, but the sound is too drenched in the synth string sound. At the "Oh Mama" part I think it becomes too much, and when it goes up yet a notch at the "I thought I was lucky" -part, it's just too overdramatic and heavy with synth strings.
 
So it's mostly the arrangement I don't like. A version without synth could sound pretty okay....
 
"Never a Time" though, is downright awful.


Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: January 18 2011 at 05:32
1) Duke - Up there with TOTT and WAW
2) We Can't Dance - This album has been seriously short changed; could it be because it has the word 'Dance' in the album title?
3) Genesis - Love the live version of Home By The Sea


Posted By: Butterfly Attack
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 07:40
Just recently tried really hard to give it a go, but in the end: There is no good Genesis Record after Gabriel left, and so, there also can't be none after Hackettt left, of course.
Slightly off-topic, I know. Forgive me.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 08:47
Originally posted by Butterfly Attack Butterfly Attack wrote:

Just recently tried really hard to give it a go, but in the end: There is no good Genesis Record after Gabriel left, and so, there also can't be none after Hackettt left, of course.
Slightly off-topic, I know. Forgive me.


It's not off topic, just wrongWink


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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 09:15
Originally posted by yanch yanch wrote:

For me there are only 2:
ATTWT and Duke. 


This. But what do I know? I stopped buying their albums after Duke, and I really don’t care about their hits.


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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 09:22
Originally posted by wilmon91 wilmon91 wrote:

Okay, another listen of Many Too Many. It starts off pretty nice, but the sound is too drenched in the synth string sound. At the "Oh Mama" part I think it becomes too much, and when it goes up yet a notch at the "I thought I was lucky" -part, it's just too overdramatic and heavy with synth strings.
 
So it's mostly the arrangement I don't like. A version without synth could sound pretty okay....
 
"Never a Time" though, is downright awful.


I have no problem with Many too Many or Say it’s All Right, Joe. On the other hand, I don’t like Ballad of Big or Scenes from a Night’s Dream very much (both have really stupid lyrics), and I agree with you when it comes to Follow You, Follow Me.


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Posted By: scaife
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 11:39
Duke
And Then There Were 3
Abacab



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