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Topic: Marillion: band that sound like themPosted By: Aragon
Subject: Marillion: band that sound like them
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 12:56
Because im a big fan of Marillion Fish-era... i would a full list of band that has a similar sounds like them. I'll begin my list here down in order of my taste:
Aragon (the best and sometime much original then marillion, but sometime synthetic and cold) Clepsydra (Great but the keyboards repetitive) Skeem (Great, but just 1 album released!) Red Sand( a bit repetitive) La tulipe Noire (very smooth sound, nice!) Knight Area (nice!) Pendragon (bored) Satellite (too poppy) Deyss (mediocre)
Someone could say Arena or Shadowland, but Arena is too heavy and Shadowland too poppy for me.
Replies: Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 13:01
Yo dawg, I heard you like clones so I made a copy of a copy so you can pretend they are Genesis while you pretend they are Genesis
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 13:09
Pendragon are not Marillion clones. For a start, they sound bugger all like them.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 13:14
lazland wrote:
Pendragon are not Marillion clones. For a start, they sound bugger all like them.
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 13:24
This thread was created with the purpose of promoting the OP's favourite band
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 13:35
Snow Dog wrote:
lazland wrote:
Pendragon are not Marillion clones. For a start, they sound bugger all like them.
Totally agree.
I'll third that, most Neo-Porg tends to be a copy of the Pendragon/IQ/Pallas sound rather than Marillions.
Anyway, you missed out Credo.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 14:49
Strange, IQ was not yet cited...
Other bands :
Jadis - 'more than meets the eye' (feat. Martin Orford and John Jowitt of IQ)
Enchant - 'a blueprint of the world' (very marillionesque, Steve Rothery is featured on one song (e-bow guitar) and produced the album)
Castanarc - 'journey to the east' (sounds like 'script' in some places)
Collage - 'Baśnie' (before Rober Amirian joined the band, very marillionesque)
Casino - s/t (with the incomparable voice of Geoff Mann, and some somilarities with 'fugazi')
Pablo El Enterrador - s/t
Iluvatar - 'Iluvatar'
Galleon - 'from land to ocean'
Janison Edge - 'the services of Mary Goode'
Landmarq - 'solitary witness' (with Damian Wilson - Threshold)
Landmarq - 'Science of coincicdence' (with Tracy Hitchings on vocals)
Threshold - 'wounded land' (with Damian Wilson)
Shadowland - 'ring of roses'
Annalist - 'artemis'
Quidam - 'Sny aniołów'
Abraxas - 'centurie'
There are a lot of marillion-influenced neo-prog bands in Poland, and you can even hear "kayleigh" playing sometimes on the radio !
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 15:12
mmmmmm About Pendragon....it's ok. They have their own style...but in comparison with Marillion are much smoothy.
The IQ was not cited because the armonies of this band are a bit much complex and less commercial oriented
Jadis-Galleon-Collage-Illuvatar are much different, in my opinion from Marillion Sound.
In Jadis the keybords are always covered by guitars
In Galleon the keyboards covered the guitars!
Abraxas is Progressive Metal....
And about the Collage...mmmmm their sound is much like IQ
Illuvatar? Old style like '70...(not like the organ)
Shadowland? No comment
Ehy? all here?
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 15:25
^
So it's good news : Marillion are unique !
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 15:30
Ehy no....Marillion are not unique....They were the clones of Genesis...with better instruments and less armonies
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 15:44
I like Marillion and couldn't be more disappointed with Genesis. I've been awaiting the "Marillion are just Genesis clones" comment since I saw this topic with only one post.
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 15:49
Aragon wrote:
Ehy no....Marillion are not unique....They were the clones of Genesis...with better instruments and less armonies
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Posted By: The_Jester
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 15:49
Marillion is an original copy of Genesis (copy but with original stuff) so if a band sounds like them, they're the copy of an original copy and it would be crap.
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 15:50
lucas wrote:
^
So it's good news : Marillion are unique !
Yea...or almost
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 20:04
I think Marillion fans would enjoy this band.
http://listn.to/Rak" rel="nofollow - RAK
Then again, I could be wrong.
Have a listen if you want.
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 05:38
Rak....mmmm
Post other Bands...in the meanwhile i'll listen
Enchant
Castanarc
Annalist
Quidam Janison Edge
Ok...maybe is better to say why I like Marillion, so you can find other band that don't sound like Marillion, but have features similar to Marillion.
I like the Keyboards and Guitars works, but above all the Mark Kelly solos and the sound of minimoogs presents in much songs of fish-era.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 07:26
Ok, as one of the main protagonists on the Marillion Round Table thread, let me be the first to say this:
Marillion are NOT bloody Genesis clones. The last such time you could make such an argument was with the release of the debut album, Script For A Jester's Tear. Even with Fish in the band, they moved away from this by Fugazi, and certainly by Misplaced Childhood. As for the Hogarth era, I would be grateful if you could quote me just one track which sounds like Genesis. I've got everything they have done, and have been a fan since the start, so I would be interested in being educated.
I won't hold my breath, though.
Actually, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Marillion should be categorised as Crossover Prog, not neo.
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 08:11
lazland wrote:
Ok, as one of the main protagonists on the Marillion Round Table thread, let me be the first to say
Actually, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Marillion should be categorised as Crossover Prog, not neo.
I agree with you from Hogarth era.
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 08:12
lazland wrote:
Actually, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Marillion should be categorised as Crossover Prog, not neo.
Sure, but this is another band that through a long career had 2 style : Neo prog 1982-88 and 89 to today Crossover Prog. Is it better to categorize the band with the neo style instead of the Crossover is another debate.
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 15:08
Arena (pre Rob Sowden period) had a similar style to Fish-era Marillion. Also Twelfth Night and Shadowland, and to a lesser extent I would even say the first album of Echolyn.
Citizen Cain's Somewhere But Yesterday was more like an early Genesis clone but so good that I never get tired of recommending it.
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 15:11
lazland wrote:
Actually, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Marillion should be categorised as Crossover Prog, not neo.
I would agree with you, except Crossover Prog is less an actual genre and more a dumping ground.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 15:16
stonebeard wrote:
lazland wrote:
Actually, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Marillion should be categorised as Crossover Prog, not neo.
I would agree with you, except Crossover Prog is less an actual genre and more a dumping ground.
I think a lot of peeps are forgetting that a clone is an exact copy.
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 15:24
Fish-era:
La Tulipe Noire Shadowland Grey Lady Down (instrumentally) The Violet Hour Aragon
Hogarth-era
Gazpacho Timothy Pure Moongarden (earlier albums and only sometimes)
La Tulipe Noire ripped off several marillion riffs in their first album (re: my review). But they branched out. Shadowland and LTN are the most similar to early Marillion.
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 03 2011 at 16:53
stonebeard wrote:
Fish-era:
La Tulipe Noire Shadowland Grey Lady Down (instrumentally) The Violet Hour Aragon
Hogarth-era
Gazpacho Timothy Pure Moongarden (earlier albums and only sometimes)
La Tulipe Noire ripped off several marillion riffs in their first album (re: my review). But they branched out. Shadowland and LTN are the most similar to early Marillion.
Great.... other bands pls other bands: Mindgames?
Posted By: Rottenhat
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 12:02
[QUOTE=Aragon]
Because im a big fan of Marillion Fish-era... i would a full list of band that has a similar sounds like them. I'll begin my list here down in order of my taste:
Aragon (the best and sometime much original then marillion, but sometime synthetic and cold) Clepsydra (Great but the keyboards repetitive) Skeem (Great, but just 1 album released!) Red Sand( a bit repetitive) La tulipe Noire (very smooth sound, nice!) Knight Area (nice!) Pendragon (bored) Satellite (too poppy) Deyss (mediocre)
Hmm, I am not a neo-prog fan, but maybe the band 'Discipline' and the album 'Unfolded like Staircase' would strike your fancy. I quite liked that album a long time ago. There's Fish-like melodrama, and grand moments of emotional dispair in the music. The closest relative to the band is maybe Van Der Graaf Generator, but still, it may appeal to a Marillion fan.
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 05 2011 at 15:24
Thx for the suggestion...The sound of DIsciple is too much sperimental, and look amateur stuff. What this band is from 1994? I believed it was from 1976. Noooooooo i can't believe.
Could you suggest now some songs that remind a bit "assasing" from Fugazi, because i miss so much that fusion of oriental rythmic, with tribal percussion, with the Rothery guitar style.
Posted By: esky
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 20:28
Nah, the bottom line here is that Marillion is a weak Genesis wannabee that sounds like Genesis - sort of. By the way, do I have to remind anyone that Ian Mosely (Mosley[?]) was once in Steve Hackett's band?
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 20:56
esky wrote:
Nah, the bottom line here is that Marillion is a weak Genesis wannabee that sounds like Genesis - sort of.
Do you always throw out poorly thought-through opinions that any one of us could falsify, or is that just right now?
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: January 06 2011 at 21:41
stonebeard wrote:
lazland wrote:
Actually, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Marillion should be categorised as Crossover Prog, not neo.
I would agree with you, except Crossover Prog is less an actual genre and more a dumping ground.
I've heard a rumor that old Genesis sounds like old Marillion.
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 05:10
Ehy i discovered another Band: WINTER! What a pity just 1 album released! :(
the sound is very boombastic, melancholic, the guitar line is hard rock and the solos is excellent and is well balanced between the calm sound of Pendragon and the heavier sound of Arena, although some songs is not so progressive, but AOR-hard rock oriented The voice remember FISH.... specially in Toybox
here the link of this great band and little known band http://www.winteronline.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.winteronline.co.uk
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 05:22
Aragon wrote:
Ehy i discovered another Band: WINTER! What a pity just 1 album released! :(
the sound is very boombastic, dark and melancholic, the guitar solo excellent and is well balanced between the calm sound of Pendragon and the heavier sound of Arena.
The voice remember FISH....
here the link of this great band and little known band http://www.winteronline.co.uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.winteronline.co.uk
Good discovery! They sound like a lot of Neo Prog bands of that time.
Posted By: esky
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 11:13
stonebeard wrote:
esky wrote:
Nah, the bottom line here is that Marillion is a weak Genesis wannabee that sounds like Genesis - sort of.
Do you always throw out poorly thought-through opinions that any one of us could falsify, or is that just right now?
An opinion is an opinion is an opinion is ... As for this one, it's based on my experience that I just never could get past Misplaced Childhood when it came to the band's output, and that one I only own on a cassette that I bought back in the '80s and haven't listened to in that lenght of time. I have the album (on CD) the band made after Flush left, and it's respectable enough. Perhaps you could be a sport and recommend the band's absolute go-to album in order to enlighten me. As for your inquiry, do what Mr. Barrel suggests at the end of the song. Hello, Mr. Mosley!
Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 06:23
Another band that remind me Marillion, above all for work on the keyboards, is NO NAME, it's fantastic.... the voice is very different from Fish...but the sound is energic and melancholic at the same time, fantastic
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 07:31
Steve Hogarth is a better writer and singer anyway. And you can't call him a clone of anyone, completely unique.
Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 11:05
^ Luke Billy, I am your father.
Actually, I'm a huge Vonnegut fan. Nice screen name.
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 12:55
esky wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
esky wrote:
Nah, the bottom line here is that Marillion is a weak Genesis wannabee that sounds like Genesis - sort of.
Do you always throw out poorly thought-through opinions that any one of us could falsify, or is that just right now?
An opinion is an opinion is an opinion is ... As for this one, it's based on my experience that I just never could get past Misplaced Childhood when it came to the band's output, and that one I only own on a cassette that I bought back in the '80s and haven't listened to in that lenght of time. I have the album (on CD) the band made after Flush left, and it's respectable enough. Perhaps you could be a sport and recommend the band's absolute go-to album in order to enlighten me. As for your inquiry, do what Mr. Barrel suggests at the end of the song. Hello, Mr. Mosley!
Brave (and/or Marbles). You will return and repent your opinion
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 13:18
lazland wrote:
esky wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
esky wrote:
Nah, the bottom line here is that Marillion is a weak Genesis wannabee that sounds like Genesis - sort of.
Do you always throw out poorly thought-through opinions that any one of us could falsify, or is that just right now?
An opinion is an opinion is an opinion is ... As for this one, it's based on my experience that I just never could get past Misplaced Childhood when it came to the band's output, and that one I only own on a cassette that I bought back in the '80s and haven't listened to in that lenght of time. I have the album (on CD) the band made after Flush left, and it's respectable enough. Perhaps you could be a sport and recommend the band's absolute go-to album in order to enlighten me. As for your inquiry, do what Mr. Barrel suggests at the end of the song. Hello, Mr. Mosley!
Thank you. I'll put your recommendations on my wish list. The last thing I gathered was a used, non-remastered copy of Hammill's "Over" several months back, so I'm overdue for something new. Season's greetings! Brave (and/or Marbles). You will return and repent your opinion
Posted By: ferush
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 19:05
Jadis, Arena
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 19:22
A band not mentioned yet, Carptree. Their new album (Nymf) is a mix of Galahad, Arena and Marillion (Fish era). One of the best albums of 2010...
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Posted By: progvortex
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 21:54
Not really well-versed in the neo-prog subgenre, but I find it hard to imagine that any other band on Progarchives could supersede or even match the tidal wave of spit, derision and social commentary that Fish let loose in Fugazi, Script, and Misplaced. But, like I said, this isn't my turf, so I could be wrong.
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Posted By: mbleiwas
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 04:24
I am a BIG fan of Marillion, IQ, Arena and Camel.
Take a listen to Arena's "Songs From the Lion's Cage". While agree that it tends to be heavier, the band's style and album production are reminiscent of older Marillion. What? Did I forget to mention that the lead singer sounds almost IDENTICAL to Fish?!
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 04:41
Nine Stones Close. Mark Atkinson's vocals are imho strongly reminiscent of Steve Hogarth. And for what it's worth, I prefer One Eye on the Sunrise above Sounds That Can't Be Made (but both albums are good).
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Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 13:35
Soul Dreamer wrote:
A band not mentioned yet, Carptree. Their new album (Nymf) is a mix of Galahad, Arena and Marillion (Fish era). One of the best albums of 2010...
Cool Cartptree excellent addiction in my wannabe Marillion sound like. Don't like the last 5 album of Galahad, much prog metal stuff.
Don't like neither the early Arena sorry; they have weak metal prog tendencies even in the first album.
Posted By: Nov
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 18:28
himtroy wrote:
I like Marillion and couldn't be more disappointed with Genesis.
Hmmmmm.......
That's like saying - "I like Oasis and couldn't be more disappointed with The Beatles"
Whether you think Marillion were influenced by Genesis or not, they were certainly a big blue-print for the fledgling Marillion. I think you must have just decided that you weren't going to like Genesis regardless but suggest that you give them another go because you are plainly missing out on some of the most beautiful music created within a genre that you enjoy.
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 12:18
Aragon wrote:
Ehy no....Marillion are not unique....They were the clones of Genesis...with better instruments and less armonies
As much as I like Fish-era Marillion, I beg to differ. Steve Rothery is very good, but Steve Hackett is unique; Mark Kelly is very good, but Tony Banks is better; Pete Trewavas is very good...have I made my point?
Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: December 23 2012 at 09:01
rdtprog wrote:
they have been known to cover Marillion in the past
Wow excellent!!! They don't sound like Marillion, but i love this band, I can't describe their sound but it's really outstanding!!!!! The sound is modern and fresh, the production top notch!!!
I don't hear any Marillion influence, maybe the way to sound some keybords solo or riff, but the rest it's very original!!!
Thx so much you're the man!!! Im hearing all the album right now!!!
Posted By: zeitgeist
Date Posted: December 24 2012 at 06:50
If I had to name just a single record (familiar to my limited scope) most reminiscent of Fish-era Marillion, I could opt for Pendragon's Masquerade overture (was it recorded in 1996?).
But just today I encountered a new name for me: Sylvan from Germany, and I think they occasionally sound somewhat like Misplaced childhood's most atmospheric and bombastic moments - but that was just my first impression. Anyway. most promising it sounded: you can try for example songs like Timeless traces or The colors changed.
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: December 24 2012 at 12:17
lucas wrote:
^
So it's good news : Marillion are unique !
If Fish was transgendered they would sound just like La Tulipe Noire.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: December 28 2012 at 16:33
Maybe italian bands Aufklärung :
and Ancestry :
and also spanish band In Nomine to a lesser extent :
Maybe we should also mention Kevin Gilbert's first band, NRG :
(RIP Kevin, thanks for all the good music, you will not be forgotten)
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Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: December 29 2012 at 08:38
Posted By: Aragon
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 13:03
zeitgeist wrote:
If I had to name just a single record (familiar to my limited scope) most reminiscent of Fish-era Marillion, I could opt for Pendragon's Masquerade overture (was it recorded in 1996?).
But just today I encountered a new name for me: Sylvan from Germany, and I think they occasionally sound somewhat like Misplaced childhood's most atmospheric and bombastic moments - but that was just my first impression. Anyway. most promising it sounded: you can try for example songs like Timeless traces or The colors changed.
Ehy Sylvan...I listen something...but I don't like their prog metal approach of the songs. Could u suggest me some stuff, without prog metal tendencies.