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Topic: Who is Out There
Posted By: Suedevanshoe
Subject: Who is Out There
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:12
Listening to your music all by yourself? My kids are too young to go record shopping, my wife could give a sh*t, none of my friends want to listen to Kraan or Locanda Dalle Fate, nor discuss which progressive album covers trump which. It sucks, but such is the life of this prog lover.



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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:15
Is that Billy Joel in your display picture?

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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 11:18


Posted By: friso
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:02
Wowh you sound like you got some winter in your head. Prog is a lonely hobby most of the time, it's true. And there's this big gap between what the music means to the prog-lover and the rest of world. But hey, what are we complaining about? I'm glad it's there.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:06
A common problem Suede, but that's what this site is for, you can engage in those discussions here if you like!

I still have a friend or two who enjoy listening to albums or watching live DVDs together for the pleasure of it, but you're right, most people these days can't close their mouths for 50 minutes in a group setting.  We live in an age where people just can't shush themselves for even an hour. 


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:10
When I meet people I namedrop prog bands to see what reaction I get.  There's always a glimmer of hope that the person says, "Oh man, I love Yes!  For me, nothing tops The Yes Album!" or some such thing.

Doesn't happen too often.  Usually it goes like this:

"So what kind of music do you like?" Smile
"I listen to all kinds but mostly prog rock like Yes and Kansas." Big smile
"..." Ermm




I'm a lonely soul.  Disapprove



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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:18
I was lucky to be friends with a prominent rock writer for 20 years, a guy who exposed me to tons of music I never would otherwise have heard.....and a guy who loved to just listen to music with other people....but expected no talking during the album....afterwards everyone would be partied up and ready to chat.  Great fun.  


Posted By: krishl
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:26
I'm lucky to have a son who likes some prog. He has gone with me to see Yes, Kansas, Porcupine Tree, Coheed. Also I meet lots of college students who like some prog. Wife doesnt like it though. She's been to see Yes a couple of times, but makes me wear headphones to listen to Hendrix, King Crimson, Magma, ....


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:31
We have a group of friends coming over for New Year's Eve tomorrow night. The kids will either play games or watch DVD's in my son's room, or play on this PC. The adults will chill and drink in the sitting room.

I presented the wife with my cd playlist today. Marillion, VDGG, Crimson, Rush, IQ, Flower Kings, GenesisCool

She said no, and told me to select from The Kinks, Beatles, and popAngry


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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 12:33
Originally posted by Suedevanshoe Suedevanshoe wrote:

Listening to your music all by yourself? My kids are too young to go record shopping, my wife could give a sh*t, none of my friends want to listen to Kraan or Locanda Dalle Fate, nor discuss which progressive album covers trump which. It sucks, but such is the life of this prog lover.

My wife and I share love of the various kinds of progressive music, and then we each have our own preferences and particular likes and dislikes. So we both like classic and modern prog rock, metal and some avantgarde/jazz and also classical music; and then she likes a lot of 80s' pop (so do I to an extent) and lots of Israeli music (since she's from there) and so do I to an extent. So it's nice to have someone to share this passion for music, but it's not essential for me, since the enjoyment of music for me, is a personal solitary issue. I understand very well that it is vastly different to a lot of other people, as is evident from your post. 
Since I have no friends, there's not much in way of having friends with similar tastes.

However; 
Listening to music for me is a solitary experience. I don't want to share the actual listening experience, I prefer to be alone (perhaps this is why I don't like live shows). I don't need anyone around me to share it. 
It's nice when I meet someone with similar tastes, but it ends there for me. I met a few like-minded people where I work and in some shows, but being the person that I am, I didn't find a mutual language (not music-wise, just to be able to communicate on the same wave-length), so it didn't go beyond the shallow discussion of our favourite bands. 

And I don't miss or regret this lack of someone to share it with. 

The only place where I actively try to communicate, interestingly, is online, where I post about the music I like etc. 
But again, it's not so much to make a social contact, as to spread the word about a band/album etc.



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 13:21
Of the people I know there are approximately two that like the music I like, at least to some degree past 'well...doesn't that sound interesting...'. I try to spread it when possible, which isn't often, but it is what it is. I don't mind listening to music by myself. Where it is a bit...lets say annoying is in a more social setting in a large group which breaks down into several different sub-convos all happening at once. Or driving along with a group of people in the car and something comes on the radio and someone goes "I loooooooove this song" while the rest chime in about it being better than the second coming of Christ, which then, of course, spins out and starts everyone on a musical chat about the artist or who shes sleeping with currently or other things I know nothing of.
 
I mean, its cool to listen to albums with someone else. But alone is all good in my book too. Its just nice to have someone to talk about it with. Which is an advantage of this site, as others have said above.


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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 13:46
There are 4 pairs of Sennheiser headphones in this household..........and we use them


Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 14:18
My friends still listen to "classic rock" like Boston, Zeppelin, The Who, Beatles and a lot of pop music. They all know I like Rush, the only song they know by heart is Tom Sawyer. they have not gone down the road of musical exploration as I have been doing. If I mention TFK, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Kaipa, Soft Machine...their eyes glaze over and they become comatose Stern Smile......I am really ok with it though.
 
My family is split. My daughter (23) is all day long into Country, Lady Gaga and hiphop. My oldest son (21) is into screamo/emo, Bullet/Valentine, blessthefall, Atreyu. He also likes going to hear local screamo bands, high school bands mostly...He does like Coheed and Maiden, Dream Theater has his interest but nothing serious yet.
My youngest son (11), I am trying to mold into my succesor....he likes Maiden, Rush and some Dream Theater...he asks questions about other stuff I listen to, I am taking it slow with this paduwan.
My wife likes jazz, dixieland, cajun and pop like Celine Dion, Mariah Carey......She does like Rush, The Who, Gilmour, PF and some Genesis. I try to expose her to other stuff on youtube, really just so she knows what I am listening to. I think once we see Porcupine Tree live she will like them more.....we all saw Maiden and DT this past June and everyone had a great time, last time my wife saw Maiden was 1985. Bruce's onstage antics makes her laugh.
 
I get zero grief from anyone in the house about my musical tastes, and I have played a lot of prog at house parties with no backlash....
 


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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 16:26
I'm basically a loner anyway, so it doesn't bother me that much.




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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 16:35
Did I mention in the first version of this thread that:
I have no kids, my wife isn't into my stuff.  My friends that I used to prog with are gone.  But my wife gives me free reign to enjoy my music as long as I don't turn it up too loud.



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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 19:10

Yes it's only me listening to music by myself.  I do share with my son and daughter.  When Beefheart left us Trout Mask disappeared to my son's room, so he's as they say sympathetic to prog.  Wife has developed a strange infatuation with latter day Dylan of late, but if not for headphones I'd be divorced. 

 


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Posted By: El Pollo Guerrera
Date Posted: December 30 2010 at 23:47
I'm a member of a gaming club (D&D, Warhammer, Magic: The Gathering, etc.), and the club's computer has a loud set of speakers.  A lot of (what little) prog music I have is on the hard drive for all to listen to.
 
Most of the time, people just play all the music at random, but a few have made lists of prog (Pink Floyd, Nightwish, etc.) to 'help their mood' while they are painting.


Posted By: TealFoxes
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 16:33
LOOOVE Locanda Delle Fate's album! I also know the chances that any of my friends liking it as much as i do are pretty slim. LOL


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 20:49
I am single and live alone, except when i listen to music-it is like my best friend, or even a part of myself i like alot-thank god for music that does it for you!


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 20:58
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

A common problem Suede, but that's what this site is for, you can engage in those discussions here if you like!

I still have a friend or two who enjoy listening to albums or watching live DVDs together for the pleasure of it, but you're right, most people these days can't close their mouths for 50 minutes in a group setting.  We live in an age where people just can't shush themselves for even an hour. 


Wise words certainly. Funny thing is that the exact opposite is true in the social context of modern bars and taverns these days i.e. the piped music is so bloody loud and invasive that no-one can have any sort of dialogue short of shouting yourself hoarse. Angry


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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: December 31 2010 at 21:00
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

We have a group of friends coming over for New Year's Eve tomorrow night. The kids will either play games or watch DVD's in my son's room, or play on this PC. The adults will chill and drink in the sitting room.

I presented the wife with my cd playlist today. Marillion, VDGG, Crimson, Rush, IQ, Flower Kings, GenesisCool

She said no, and told me to select from The Kinks, Beatles, and popAngry
 
WE should have definitely hung out last night LOL


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