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Topic: This album is not a Black Sabbath release
Posted By: tupan
Subject: This album is not a Black Sabbath release
Date Posted: December 26 2010 at 16:38
That album ( http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20800" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20800 ) is not a Black Sabbath's DVD. It's a Heaven and Hell release.

Sorry for my poor english.


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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 04:23
I've asked Finnforest to have a look at this thread, as it's his addition and his review.
 
Cheers


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 04:50
Ermm this could be a slight problem. H&H were cleared for addition into PR as a seperate entry; Raff promised to do it, but it appears she did not.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 05:09
Why don't we just leave it as such and add the other H&H releases to Sabbath's discography???....
 
 
Just enter those album with AKA Heaven & Hell in the title of the release....
 
 
 
It's only because of Ozzy's capriciousness that these were not released as Black sabbath
 
 
waddyasay???


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 05:13
I say aye say I!

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Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 05:39
Yes, I agree that the releases of Heaven And Hell should be add to the Sabbath's profile...
Can I add the album "The Devil You Know"?


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 06:04
Originally posted by tupan tupan wrote:

Yes, I agree that the releases of Heaven And Hell should be add to the Sabbath's profile...
Can I add the album "The Devil You Know"?
Not yet.
 
Heaven and Hell were approved by the Admin Team for addition as a seperate entry. Please do not add this album until the band has been added (or until we decide to change our minds Wink)


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 06:10
Which will likely not happen this year. 

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 08:14
According to Wiki this was a Sabbath project, but Tony changed the name because Ozzy was already using Sabbath as a name.

It is listed under "Official Black Sabbath Releases" on this website:
http://www.black-sabbath.com/discog/sabbathpick.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.black-sabbath.com/discog/sabbathpick.html

That said, I don't remember further details of why I added this, I'm lucky if I can remember last month let alone 2 years ago.  If the addition was incorrect I have no problem if someone wants to delete it.  Personally I think its fine to have them merged with Sabbath. 

If instead it is decided to add HH as a separate artist, I'd probably ask if someone more Sab-familiar could write the bio.  


Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 13:09
I think it would be better for H&H to be added as a separate entry. This is really an ABWH type situation.
 
Dean, were H&H approved for prog related? I don't recall that (but that goes for nothing!).


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 13:20
^ Yes

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:42
Nothing from H&H should be added to Sabbath's page because they aren't Black Sabbath.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 14:53
^ But everyone knows that they are.

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 15:28

It's weird I know,but they AREN'T Black Sabbath.If they were,their name would be Black Sabbath.Their album The Devil You Know isn't a Sabbath album,it's a H&H album.

We can go round and round about this all night Ian.Wink


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: December 27 2010 at 16:54
On the third day of Christmas
Ian took Jody to the dance....


If H&H are not Black Sabbath because Ozzy was using that name at the time, then indeed they are not BS.


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Posted By: ProgShine
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 19:01
Ok, just my opinion, but I don't think it should be on Black Sabbath page as well.

3 ( http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1020" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1020 ) is not basically ELP? Still, they arent, same with Heaven & Hell. Thumbs up for a page for H&H


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 19:06
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

It's weird I know,but they AREN'T Black Sabbath.If they were,their name would be Black Sabbath.Their album The Devil You Know isn't a Sabbath album,it's a H&H album.

We can go round and round about this all night Ian.Wink

Yes but everyone thinks of them as Sabbath. Not saying they shouldn't have their own entry, and of course it doesn't say Sabbath on the cover.........but everyone knows it's Sabbath.Tongue

Why does Ozzy get more rights to the name than Iommi? He invented the sound! I suspect that bitch Sharon behind it all. How I hate her.


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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: December 28 2010 at 20:24
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

It's weird I know,but they AREN'T Black Sabbath.If they were,their name would be Black Sabbath.Their album The Devil You Know isn't a Sabbath album,it's a H&H album.

We can go round and round about this all night Ian.Wink

Yes but everyone thinks of them as Sabbath. Not saying they shouldn't have their own entry, and of course it doesn't say Sabbath on the cover.........but everyone knows it's Sabbath.Tongue

Why does Ozzy get more rights to the name than Iommi? He invented the sound! I suspect that bitch Sharon behind it all. How I hate her.
Shocked


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Posted By: tupan
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 05:19
In  fact, I am sure that Sharon is behind all that problem. 

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