He has also brought to life a project involving rock and jazz drummers for 2 Buddy Rich tributes on the Altlantic label, both very good tributes to the great late Buddy Rich.

Amazing guy really.

He's my favorite rock drummer and one of my favorite lyricists.

 

Don't really focus on lyrics, so I'm not qualified to answer. The Trees makes me laugh everytime though.

 

He's the man!.......I don't get the mechanical arguement or the part where he is not fluid....His drumming is seemless, that's pretty fluid to me.

 

And yet I also think that when you see him playing his body language is too tight, his body does not flow as smoothly as it should, something that happens with Carl Palmer too.

Neil himself reckons this and that's why he went on to take lessons from Freddie Gruber, but it was too late in his career and although some say that his playing got smoother after that, I hardly noticed any change.

But that's ok, if this is his style and he can play so amazingly in this way, let him be so !

 

Wonderful lyricist too.

I know, but you'd expect some fluid drumming from a man who says he's a jazz fan since his childhood and had lessons from one of the top jazz drumming instructors.

And the mechanical drumming appears when he plays his songs live, exactly like the studio recordings. Of course Rush changes the song's arrangements every now and then, but he leaves no room for improv. Makes me wonder if it's really worth for me to spend money on seeing them live.

BUT to me there is a very big difference in the live versions of tracks on Exit Stage Left compared to the albums where the smoothness and flow is there so perhaps its an age thing as another poster suggested.

Sometime in the mid-seventies it seems many drummers started using a range of tom toms, pitched from very high to low. At least I come to think of Andy Ward on the Moonmadness album. Was it Neil Peart who inspired this use of tom-toms?

 

Well, I like those aspects about his drumming, but his playing has changed, he took lessons from Freddy Gruber (I think thats his name) in the nineties, and his playing became....well, he seems to have lost some energy in the playing, but I only recall "Test For Echo", and if I've heard anyhting after that, I have forgotten it.

This is more a fan appreciation thread by the OP, not a compariosn of Neil Peart to other drummers poll or style of play.

Although I appreciate your opinion and posts I think this thread is not the place to express your dislike of Neil Peart's playing. So I can understand where some of the comments against what you posted are coming from.....I think you just picked the wrong thread.......The other ones are more appropriate to voice your displeasure and would get better responses.

 

But she doesn't like it that way and that's fine too.

But she dislikes Peart personally because he is responsible(partly) for the worship and she hates the fans.

You are a bit like a religious zealot.

After such a post that proves you've researched so much about his style, I'm sure your problem with Peart is not just about his fans.

 

I mean no disrespect at all....I have no clue who Barbara Dennerlein is or some of the other non-prog rock or rock in general people you mention, and maybe I have heard something by them, dunno....I listen to classical music maybe 20 hours a year. I played the clarinet in elementary and jr high school and played it very well but that is it for me and any sort of formal musical talent/knowledge. You seem to write like you have an advanced musical background like in college/university or something, which would be awesome!

 

This site is about prog rock music, it can be big, flamboyant, theatrical and its very visual......hence some bands have excess equipment on stage, for some it is part of the show and a lot actually will use all the equipment. I have been to several classical performances and I see a lot of equipment that never gets touched.....I mean a harp has what about 50 strings and maybe 25 of them get plucked?

So who cares if he or another prog rock drummer only hit part of their drums during a performance maybe 2-3x. So your formula of disliking Neil Peart fans seems very biased........Do you say the same about classical artists which might also not go outside the boundries in a live performance, that stay the course and play as it was originally written?

Your reasoning/arguement call it whatever it is goes beyond Neil Peart and Rush...because I don't see you posting the same arguement on other threads about other artists. It really comes across as a bashing of a very well respected artist within the rock world.

Like T said....it seems as though Neil has personally done something to you. A lot of people bash many artists on this site...daily. Its a forum, it is what it is.......I just don't see members taking your position on just one artist like you do with Neil.

I would conclude by saying that this behaviour tells me you do like his drumming style and have no issues listening to Rush regularly...but since you started this fight with so many members, its hard to now admit maybe you were wrong, just a bit, in your earlier position with someone like Neil and Rush....or any other artists you feel this way about.

Have a great weekend!

This.

I guess she has a Drumometer to tell her the optimal number of percussive units.

 

You might be on to something with that....better patent it quickly!

 

I know...I am trying to be nice and respectful......its my New Years resolution....did it work?

What? You are always nice and respectable as far as I remember.

I'm the rude aggressive one.

 

Well remember this is only typing....video chat is not available on the PA...yet!? For sure it would have to have that 5 second delay..and also a "bleep" function.

You are a Peart hater clearly. If someone, i.e. me, can predict you coming into a thread to bash Peart, then you're a hater. Pretty good criteria.

You're really contradicting yourself. The big kit is used for his solo and it is nothing by frill? Sorry that statement makes no sense. The point of it is for the solo mainly. Thus it's not arbitrary.

I don't see what someone's kit has to do with anything. Max Roach is great with a small kit. Peart is great with a big one. Who the hell cares?

YOU should  read my post. I never or he never said you did say that.

You single him out for criticism for no good reason when nobody has done any of the things which you claim as the reasons for you speaking out against him

I'll consider that bashing.

She talks about Peart fans being disrespectful to other drummers, but she outright disrespects Peart fans, large drum kits, and lack of improvisation. 

Lol is this a joke? Read my post.

"Peart's fans"

Are you kidding me?

I can't live with your high and mighty attitude and nonsensical arguments. I could care less who you like or if you think Peart is terrible. He's not my father. I care about this far less than you.

You haven't criticized him? You just got done saying how his kit is too large. 

It's amazing from someone who is claiming we don't read her posts.

That explains a lot.

Actually as Tony quoted you clearly disrespected it. You called it nothing but frills. That's not a compliment. 

I'm not twisting your words. You're twisting mine actually while claiming I don't read your posts. Every time a point is made you simply ignore it and switch direction. 

Thanks for the punctuation clarification by the way.

PEART 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!

You show nothing but contempt for him but even more so for fans of him. Why you should hate the fans so much is beyond me.

I think your behaviour across two threads now and many times in the past about this one drummer speaks for itself. I know where my head is. I doubt you use yours.

Neil makes full use of his drumkit during his songs playing, have you not watched Xanadu, Mistic Rythms and so many other songs?  from someone who says that I can only think that he/she has not seen Neil live much. 

OK, we can argue with you too, no problem.

..and throwing insults? Well, she started it. But I will withdraw my comment if you wish.

+1

Well for a start I am not bickering.

I think the fault lies on one side. Your lover Friede. Why do I say it's her fault? because she trolls every thread that has either Neil Peart in it or favourite drummer polls and threads. Everyone here knows her opinion!!! Does she need to ram it down our throats on every occasion?

And she hasn't misunderstood us? This is beyond a joke.

It's not me with the problem.