Mike Portnoy
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Topic: Mike Portnoy
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Subject: Mike Portnoy
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 06:25
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After all the backlash of Dream Theater's split with Mike, who's side is everyone on.
I can sympathize with Mike, but to be honest he sounds to be a wee bit overdramatic. People leave bands all the time, but the way he did it made it sound sooooo sad and melancholic, when in fact it was just some guy leaving a band. It's only a band for Pete's sake.
Everyone was acting like he died, and to be honest I think it's going to be interesting to hear a new Dream Theater album, and isn't that what Prog really is about, moving foward and doing something different every time. And to be honest...I was a bit annoyed with Mike the past few years, trying to suck up to record companies and trying to be liked all the time.
So...any thoughts
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 06:32
The only thoughts I have on the matter pretty much coincide with yours - at the time, he even used the quote from 'The Spirit Carries On':
As you say - a tad melodramatic & at the end of the day a drummer has left a rock band... ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
"Move on, be brave
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 06:34
I seem to remember being slaughtered for saying that at the time.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 06:36
Unfortunately, DT do seem to attract fanaticism; there are times I think if it weren't for Dream Theater I'd have nothing to do as a moderator  -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 06:36
| I know he's a great drummer, but their are other great drummers. It's a bit like Iron Maiden, when Clive Burr left, Nicko allowed the band to be alot more dynamic and even technical, and used his ability to a great advantage, having made 4 great albums with him from until the 90's. |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 06:46
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I still love the band and always will, but you know, even though being a pretty big fan, I didnt care that much, I even put up a post on this site about his replacement the morning of the "event" |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 07:14
There's no doubt about it, DT contain some pretty major talent, but I honestly think the result is less than the sum of its parts - in recent years (and this is coming from a DT fan...) I personally feel they've become stale; maybe some new blood in the ranks will give their creativity a bit of a kick  -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 07:43
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I loved Octavarium, but their last 2 weren't the best (their was some good moments on em), and I agree, a new drummer mit create a new spark
And I think it's Roadrunners fault, they were trying to become a wee bit too mainstream (altho thats not always a bad thing, Genesis did pretty alright for themselves in the 80's)
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 08:06
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I think the track 'Octavarium' itself was pretty good (aka "Shine on you crazy drummer"), but can honestly say that's the first I liked since 'Six Degrees...' & not keen on anything since.
Bring back Derek Sherinian!  -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Majikthise
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 08:29
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"Just some guy leaving a band?" Come on man, DT toured pretty extensively. For Portnoy, most of his life would have been devoted to the band for over twenty years. I think he's earnt the right make a melodramatic exit speech! |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 09:36
| As of lately, I don't care much about DT. Maybe a new drummer will be a good thing, if they choose wisely, and bring new dynamics into their mix, something they urgently need. |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 10:34
That's what I'm hoping. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 10:36
I didn't know we had to take sides.  ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: topographicbroadways
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 13:49
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i'm guessing still no word on his replacement then? And yes i agree with you a very big deal was made, i honestly thought it was great news after hearing a nightmare to remember, i'm a metal fan but that was such a poor pseudo thrash effort and that was all i could see the band churning out in the future if portnoy had stuck around -------------  
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 15:22
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i cant take sides. I like MP and i like DT, im interested to see what he does in the future (Morse, Morse, Portnoy, LaRue/Transatlantic 4/maybe a solo record?) and i also am excited for DT11. So i say down the road, Portnoy leaving will be seen as a good thing
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 16:13
Yeah .... but the new dynamics has to get away from the guitar heavy medal thing, which I think it what Mike was getting tired of. And in the end, the saddest part of it all? ... Iron Maiden was making DT sound stupid and repetitive on the stage! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 00:42
Like many, many musicians in the history of rock music? And then we shall all cringe at the overflowing melodrama emanating from the frequent line up changes in rock bands, right? But, of course, everything DT do is absolutely justified and unfairly criticized. |
Posted By: Majikthise
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 01:48
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Did I say that? DT have release plenty of tripe along with their good material, and haven't done much of note lately. Doesn't mean the dude hasn't put in a sh*tload of time into it, and therefore it's fair enough for him want to outline the reasons why he left. You and the OP are just being needlessly reductive. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 02:19
A startling admission!
Nobody said he's not entitled to say something about his departure. But quoting Spirit Carries On sounds incredibly corny to me. |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 13:07
| some people take other peoples lives too seriously, thats all I;m saying. Their was also alot of backlash from Dream Theater fans about Avenged Sevenfold, which is quite odd. I like Avenged Sevenfold, not as much as Dream Theater, their still a great band, and at times they get criticised just for being popular |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 19:46
| I personally am looking forward to the change. As great of a drummer as Mike is, he has definitely led Dream Theater towards a more riff-based, repetitive metal sound that lacks much depth. And I agree, it's not like anybody died, just taking a break. I'll be looking forward to the next DT album. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 11 2010 at 20:33
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The Classic Rock Presents: Prog issue of December is all about the DT drama. Quite interesting stuff, including exclusive interviews with the band members. I red a preview of Rudess' intervew and according to him Portnoy was trying to control the band. I'm dying to buy that magazine. -------------   
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 17:37
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I guess I'm in the minority here. I have DT's entire oeuvre, and know it as well as anyone. Yet I felt Octavarium was one of their weakest efforts, despite parts of Root, and the amazing Panic Attack. And I felt that their last two albums (Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds) were not just better, but moving in a truly magnificent direction, which I hoped they would continue. That is, unlike some here, I felt that band was "progressing" - though I can understand if some feel that they were progressing in an unexpected direction.
As for Portnoy, given that he was a founding member of the band, contributed some excellent compositions, and is almost unarguably one of the best drummers in rock history, this is not simply "a drummer leaving a band." He was as responsible for the "sound" of DT as anyone else, and we would not even be discussing this if he had not helped DT to achieve the reputation and accolades that they have gotten - and richly deserve.
And although I will certainly be rooting for the band to continue in greatness, I, for one, believe that his departure will damage the band irreparably, and that their demise may occur within the next two albums.
Peace.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 22:12
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^ I disagree. Rudess and Petrucci are compositional maelstroms. Petrucci has expressed a desire to take up the slack in communicating with fans and putting the band out there. And in my mind I'm glad we'll have at least some reprieve from his slouching and uninteresting AA saga and horrid vocal contributions. I'm hoping against hope they'll make another Falling into Infinity. The band can do lighter songs so well and this darkness is wearing sooooo thin. But the next will probably be just as dark so blech. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 22:27
 ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 22:36
I'm not going to try to find an English source right now, but a usually reliable Finnish rock mag quoted Petrucci as saying they have chosen the new guy, but aren't announcing his name just yet. They're entering studio in January and are "extremely enthusiastic" about the new guy. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 12 2010 at 22:54
 Entirely agree, but like you, I doubt they will make another similar in type 'Falling Into Infinity' (my favorite DT album). If only the band would think of writing different songs rather than using previous structures and "creating" from there... James needs to sing once again as he did in the 90s, Petrucci needs to stop making so many riffs and rapid solos, Jordan needs to add more jazzy overtones, Myung should grab a fretless and the new drummer should be a non-metalhead.
And I need to shut up.
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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 01:29
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he sounded like a giant douche/baby in his letter posted on their website, making a bunch of veiled comments, throwing up his hands saying 'well i tried but they wouldnt have any of it". ive done everything. led the band. overseen everything. wah wah wah. ive never been a portnoy fan and have not liked dream theater for a while now but i am actually excited to hear what they'll turn out with some fresh blood. maybe they'll shed that tired 'heavy metal' thing they've been doing for a while now and churn out something musical. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/KeiserWillhelm" rel="nofollow - What im listening to |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 05:01
| You summed up my point exactly, they have been a bit of a repetitive metal band since 2006. Hopefully the songs won't be as long and overblows, and maybe go back to some of the technical mastery shown on Train Of Though |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 05:02
| yes, he was a bit of a wee baby or a spoil brat...leave the band, stop whining and move on... |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 05:03
Yes this is true, and I check their wikipedia everyday. I have a feeling it's Mike Manginni, he's a good friend of the band and even played drums in some of James solo stuff. Their is also that Extreme connection
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 05:06
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I know I'm saying alot here, but it's worth it...
I hope John Myung gets back to lyric writing....and maybe even Jordan having a go, cause I've heard some of his solo stuff and some of his experimental vocal manipulatiions (check out Undercover Scientist on You Tube).
Learning To Live is real poetry, I've got nothing against Petrucci, but his lyrics are failing, and they were so good back in the day.
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 05:08
James can't sing the way he did in the 90's cause he damaged it from vomiting due to the food poisioning. I think he should sing without hitting very high octaves, cause he's got a great low and smooth middle cleffed tones
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:18
Maani!!! Good to see you back on the forum 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:25
That is one of the funniest covers I've seen for a long time (although maybe the orbs in MP's hands should have been replaced by stigmata scars )- great juxtaposition of 2 quotes at the foot of the page too.
CAVEAT: I'd repeat I am a DT fan, but this is funny! -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:26
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 06:36
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It's difficult for me to think of an uglier cover on a professional magazine. That looks like it was designed and completed in 10 minutes, tops. Dream Theater is never going to escape the lens flare, are they... ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 08:30
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Dear god is that supposed to be a 1950s sci-fi paperback cover or a professional magazine? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 09:07
At least it's not nearly as ridiculously hideous as this one: ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 09:47
Petrucci can share some amazing and touching songs, like Hollow Years, Trial of Tears and Hell's Kitchen and we need something more mellow like that. With a balanced mix of heavy and mellow tracks, I know we will have an amazing album... ------------- |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 09:54
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Also, we need more James Labrie's lyrics. It was Portnoy who didn't aloud him to write lyrics for BC&SL and that was a mistake. Jordan is great when he is compossing with John, more that shreddring with Mike, so, the change is good and eventually, when his ego ease a little bit he will be back... ------------- |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 10:16
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Mike: "I mean, we have one bandmember that would literally not even sit in the same room with the rest of us for years now and we'd only see him on stage or at meet-and-greets.." Myung, i think. I honestly hope they kick Labrie out, I can only stand the instrumental versions of BC&SL. he should had quit since that damn fish incident
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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 10:52
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Jim:
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Peace.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 11:07
Anytime, Maani - nice to see a founding father back on the site  -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 11:08
A dangerous opinion... but one I support... Shhhh! -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 12:06
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 15:20
| What utter bullsh*t on that magazine cover. It looks like some freaking tabloid magazine with those quotes. I definitely won't be picking that up. |
Posted By: slashnmetal424
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 15:41
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Mike leaving DT is like if Neil was to leave Rush. When JP and JMX found Mike at berkley there was a connection and this ability to feel each others music that most musicians dont get to experience. Its not everyday you just run into people you can write and connect with for over 25 years. Its like finding your dream woman. Well they were each others dream musicians. Most of the bands we all listen to were formed by producers or by guys trying to make "super groups. "yeah the music is great but you dont have the emotion. You can feel the emotion on every DT album and how they were all feeling when the record was made. DT will not be able to produce the feeling or emotion through their music without Mike. they are a team. The music will still be great but it will NOT be DT. The largest problem with prog bands and well bands in general is that they arent writing for each other. They write to be different, or cool, or to make money. Bands like DT, RUSH, Steven Wilson(porcupine Tree), Mikael Akerfeld(Opeth), Sting, you can truly feel what they are portraying through their music and thats why they are so successful. By being themselves an doing what they want to do they are different and people love that. -Mike Tyree ( Intersecting Horizons) - "these guys are the new RUSH"- Tony Gammolo (producer/spider studios/cleveland) vote for us in the project independent music showcase http://www.projectindependent.net" rel="nofollow - http://www.projectindependent.net band myspace http://www.myspace.com/intersectinghorizons" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/intersectinghorizons free downloads of Intersecting Horizons at http://www.puregrainaudio.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.puregrainaudio.com |
Posted By: stranger inyoursoul
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 16:38
| Well I guess that he left for the benefit of him and his family. If thats even ONE of the reasons then his decision is the right one. If he is not happy at his "place of work" then its time to leave for all concerned, and lets hope that after a break he comes back with more exciting projects (and the fourth Transatlantic album of course). |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 16:39
We will see how much MP input was important with the band on the next release. I am not that convince that the band can't make a better cd than the last one without MP. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 13 2010 at 18:55
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Hi,
Give the band a chance ... it might, in the end be for the best and the 4 guys left work together even better ... and create something stronger and more intense.
Bad part for the drummer is that he is in a temporary group ... and that work will be over soon, and then he will be out of a job ... maybe he is rich enough he doesn't need it ... and could use a break to help find out who he is inside ... and then get back to work ... might be the best thing that ever happened to him!
I can just see it ... a tour with DT and the support band is one with Mike drumming in it! His own band! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 08:30
| His last facebook update was so whiney, saying the only one's that got him through the year was his family...basically calling his fans c**ts in my opinion...he needs to stop being so stuck up...the rest of the band have put the split to rest and moved on...WHY CAN'T HE! |
Posted By: GLDF
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 09:01
| What if Marco Minnemann would be the new drummer. Perhaps the supergroup he's in with Jordan Rudess is a sneak way of announcing him...? |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 16:03
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Hi,
I hope they get an unknown drummer ... and someone that has a bit of the "anti-music" and "anti-metal" thing to their drumming ability, so he/she can help color the music way better and make it more interesting.
I would think that the last thing they want right now is to sound like the last album, or like the album 10 years ago, or the album 20 years ago. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 16:16
No, that's LaBrie. He has been in a long feud with Portnoy and is know to work separately from the band since Scenes, when he only acted / did anything at the time of singing the vocals, and that's how it has been ever since. Besides, LaBrie is the one with five solo albums. And he have no credit in any song in Black Clouds. This sure smell fishy. -------------
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 17:42
See, again, Mike trying to tell anyone what to do and how to do it. He needs to relax a bit, because James writes better songs than him... ------------- |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 18:35
Really? I hate every single solo album that LaBrie has released so far, though his last two albums, released under his own name, were a bit better than the ones as MullMuzzler. His latest is pretty bad, though. It is as if he managed to WORSEN the already terrible Göthenburg-style melodic death metal.   -------------
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 19:13
| I personally think he's going to go the way of Neville Chamberlain... he may have done great things in the past, but history is going to remember him as the guy that left his bandmates for a younger, 'hip' band instead. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 19:20
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"I'm devastated they chose to continue without me" - Mike Portnoy Unless that's taken out of context, that's the whiniest little baby comment I've heard in years. Anyone pick it up to confirm/deny context? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 19:36
There is no context. He has been whining since he decided to focus on his side projects. -------------
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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 19:49
I honestly blame Labrie for all this. ok i dont ... but if he is not one of the "creative minds" behind the song writing, well, just step aside and let the masters do they work. he does a great frontman tho, but so did Ian Guillan back at the time purple were THE Band, then he just couldnt sing the same. tl;dr when portnoy gets back, its gonna be time for LaBrie to step aside.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 14 2010 at 19:53
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All this just reeks of Mike Portnoy suffocating the band, and nothing else. I have confidence everyone will be able to do their jobs better. Just let them breathe, Mike.
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Majikthise
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 05:00
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I've skipped the last couple of pages because I CBF, but I'd love to see DT branch out and just do whatever the hell they feel like. What I really want to hear though, is more of their accoustic material. They rarely do it, but they're so damn good at it. Think of The Silent Man, or the last five minutes of The Count of Tuscany. The handful of accoustic moments they have are all excellent. I would buy an accoustic DT album, even if they'd never do it. Pretty sure Portnoy isn't the only metalhead in the band though. Petrucci is a shredder at heart, so they'll never go completely interesting. |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 07:43
Portnoy is actually a massive Beatles fan, so their melodic side comes from him alot of the times. But I think JP's metal side is fired by Portnoy, so who knows, more mellower music might be an outcome, but I think it's going to be quite a heavy album, which is a shame, cause I think they have amazing acoustic melodic songs.
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Posted By: TazManiaN_DeViL
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 08:50
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Call me a conspiracist (if such word exists lol) if you want , i just feel like the whole melodrama thingy was cooked for discussions like these,articles and blogs to attract attention to both DT and MP , since he was gonna leave anyways , i guess this could be the best outcome of such a move. As a previous DT big fan , (up until Octavarium ,which i didnt like tbh) their sound just went bad to me with the heavy guitar riffs being played and heavy metal coaty sound in their music,i still believe MP was the spirit of their music signature to me (not that am saying the other members are not as good) . But i guess like mentioned above , i hope their new drummer drifts them all to a new sound so i can get back to their liking cause i really used to love'em , they're members (excluding Labrie :P) have a lot of talent to offer givin the right blend and music style 
------------- "In the Court of the Crimson King" lies "The battle of Hastings" and the "Escenses""Between Flesh and Divine" with the "Mirage" of a "Camel"! |
Posted By: ferush
Date Posted: December 15 2010 at 15:43
| I had just forgotten about him |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 05:10
I think your right, this is the most press DT have ever got, smart men they are
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 05:11
Well time to remember him haha
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 16 2010 at 14:56
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Portnoys relationship with Avenged Sevenfold has come to an end
http://www.facebook.com/notes/mike-portnoy/mike-portnoys-time-with-avenged-sevenfold-comes-to-an-end/161577267220055" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/notes/mike-portnoy/mike-portnoys-time-with-avenged-sevenfold-comes-to-an-end/161577267220055 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 11:56
Jordan do write lyrics, but he once said "I don't want the guys (Mike) overanalyzing my lyrics and thinking too much if the fans gonna like it, so I really don't want to pass through that process", problems with James have been there for years now and Myung, welll he never speaks anyway...
Well, now that MP left A7X, he will have more time to whinne more... sad... ------------- |
Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: December 17 2010 at 12:02
If Mike returns (eventually), I hope he won't be able to take the shots, because honestly, the band is way more talented that the way he pushed them to go in the last couple of years... ------------- |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: December 20 2010 at 23:41
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Don't know if this was already posted in some other Portnoy thread, but as this one seems to have been the most active recently... Mike Portnoy appears to have made a sensational attempt to smooth things over with his former Dream Theater bandmates, and get back with them. But he admits this has failed. He has revealed the following on his own forum: “Just for the record, this is indeed true.. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
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Posted By: west113
Date Posted: December 21 2010 at 02:23
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Oh well. But I don't think he should worry too much. I believe more in the separate persons in former DT than the band itself. I also belong to the group of people that think that DT recently lost their spark and might be at the end of their career even before MP left. He should go out there, have fun, start new interesting projects. ------------- The progloving accordeon Guy, yeah, that's me. |
Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 10:27
I don't think taking sides is necessary in this - according to both MP and DT their split was amicable, I'm just very sad (yes, still! ) that it happened.As for the comments along the lines of "just a drummer leaving a band", I can't quite agree. Portnoy was much more than just DT's drummer, he was a founder member and their spokesperson/representative, easily the most high-profile member of the band. I keep wondering whether his return to DT is inevitable at some point, especially given that his involvement with A7X has now ended, but my brother read somewhere the other week that MP had approached DT in an attempt to bury the hatchet and rejoin, but that the other members of DT said no - possibly because they've already taken on a replacement. Whether this is just a rumour I don't know - anyone else heard this? ------------- 
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Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 10:31
After posting my above comment, I've just noticed the one from Pekka a few comments before mine that answered my question!! Sorry I wasn't very observant there - I've not been on here for a while and had only read the first few comments .-------------
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Posted By: Proggy Pogo
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 10:35
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[QUOTE=Pekka] sadly, they declined my offer (well, actually their lawyer did…they didn’t even tell me themselves….)/QUOTE] Well Mike, it's their loss. -------------
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Posted By: Repner
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 11:56
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I was disappointed when it happened, but now I'm actually a bit more optimistic about the future of DT. From all the talk of Portnoy restricting the other band members (if true), it gives them more freedom. A new drummer bringing in new influences should be interesting as well. I understand Mike is obviously very upset about leaving, but if he wants any chance of rejoining the band in the future, it would be a good idea to at least try to remain on good terms with the band. The way he's been behaving lately hasn't really done him any favours. There are some things best not made public ------------- 
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Posted By: FunkyM
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 16:54
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From what I understand, he left the band and then changed his mind a few months later when other opportunities didn't pan out... so I'm not really sure what he was expecting. But as always, I'm on the side of whatever gets both sides to create great music for the rest of us. ;) |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 05:42
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OK, so apparently they split (for the moment). I see it as a good thing, because Dream Theater will still be a formidable force without Portnoy, and MP himself will probably release a lot of good material/albums as he's done in the past To my way of thinking the amount of quality output to be expected has just doubled. |
Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 12:18
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Wow this went on for a bit, sorry If I'm coming back to it now SO.... Mike Mangini might be new drummer...discuss...:D |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 08 2011 at 12:27
been discussed in another thread. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74853" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74853
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