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Topic: Greatest Schwarzenegger Film (the Real poll)
Posted By: manofmystery
Subject: Greatest Schwarzenegger Film (the Real poll)
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 18:49
And remember:


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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 19:14
I actually find "Jingle All The Way" alright Party

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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 19:22
Originally posted by Lark the Starless Lark the Starless wrote:

I actually find "Jingle All The Way" alright Party
 
 
"WHO TOLD YOU YOU COULD EAT MY COOKIES!!!!!?"


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Time always wins.


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 20:04
False.

The correct answer is all.


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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "


Posted By: Kestrel
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 20:21

I gave all my friends this for Christmas last year  http://www.amazon.com/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Favorites-Collection-Kindergarten/dp/B000RJO56E/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1291774852&sr=8-6" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Favorites-Collection-Kindergarten/dp/B000RJO56E/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1291774852&sr=8-6



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 07 2010 at 21:58
The Guvernator of Cullifornia.

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 02:26
I've never seen these particular movies, but was he ever in a good movie? I certainly can't think of one. 

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 08:17
Terminator and Predator? 

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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 08:29
Twins


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 09:15
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Terminator and Predator? 
I would not consider either of those good movies. So.....


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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 16:28
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Terminator and Predator? 
I would not consider either of those good movies. So.....

While you might not, most critics and moviegoers alike do in fact consider the first two Terminator movies classics. 


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 18:02
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Terminator and Predator? 
I would not consider either of those good movies. So.....
While you might not, most critics and moviegoers alike do in fact consider the first two Terminator movies classics. 
They also thought The Sixth Sense and Crash (2004) were good movies and those are absolute garbage. What does the opinion of the masses or the self-important critics matter?

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 22:53
I actually fully enjoy the last two. Much more than Predator... 

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 22:55
I enjoyed Kindergarten Cop, but wouldn't call any Arny movie greatest.

Iván


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 22:57
Except Terminator maybe.

Iván


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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 01:19
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

They also thought The Sixth Sense and Crash (2004) were good movies and those are absolute garbage. What does the opinion of the masses or the self-important critics matter?

If you can't find enjoyment out of T2 then you might want to check and see if your pair is still intact. 

Seriously though, what movies do you think are great? Let me guess besides PTA, you're a Cronenberg or perhaps Lynch fan? You're so avant bro! Let's hear it, I'm prepared to take you to film school. Wink


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 02:09
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

They also thought The Sixth Sense and Crash (2004) were good movies and those are absolute garbage. What does the opinion of the masses or the self-important critics matter?

If you can't find enjoyment out of T2 then you might want to check and see if your pair is still intact. 

Seriously though, what movies do you think are great? Let me guess besides PTA, you're a Cronenberg or perhaps Lynch fan? You're so avant bro! Let's here it, I'm prepared to take you to film school. Wink
 
 
Well, we know he hates Eraserhead so he's not a Lynch fan, I reckon


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Time always wins.


Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 04:05
Twins isn't a bad movie.


Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 08:09
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Terminator and Predator? 
Both great movies... of course, not flawless, but still  good.
 
Agree with Henry that Crash is absolute garbage, but Sixth Sense is kind of cool, not that great but it's a good film. And I don't trust in critics or mass appeal, I enjoy a movie that I can buy the "excuse" of the plot. And Predator, Terminator and Sixth Sense have good excuses for their own arguments, and that's enough.


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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 14:01
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Twins isn't a bad movie.
exactly thisSmile


Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 14:06
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Twins isn't a bad movie.
exactly thisSmile


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 18:43
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

They also thought The Sixth Sense and Crash (2004) were good movies and those are absolute garbage. What does the opinion of the masses or the self-important critics matter?

If you can't find enjoyment out of T2 then you might want to check and see if your pair is still intact. 

Seriously though, what movies do you think are great? Let me guess besides PTA, you're a Cronenberg or perhaps Lynch fan? You're so avant bro! Let's here it, I'm prepared to take you to film school. Wink
 
It's an understandable mistake, but unlike most avant-garde music fans I don't care for almost any visual avant-garde art and I have a mixed relationship with avant-garde literature. I can't speak for their other movies, but Videodrome and Eraserhead are pretentious garbage. I actually sat down to watch T2 after stonie got mad at me for making fun of it, but I had to turn it off during the interminable truck chase scene because it was clear that it wasn't going to get any less boring, and the writing certainly wasn't going to stop making me cringe. I'm not sure why enjoying EXPLOSIONS DEATH AGGRESSION RAAAAHHHHHH RAGE HUMP UNF UNF UNF movies is apparently a requirement for being male, despite being absolutely terrible movies except for fulfilling a fantasy of vicariously blowing sh*t up. Die Hard is a stupid movie and acknowledging and reveling in its stupidity doesn't make it any better. And now we have videogames so there's not even any need for the explosions fantasy anymore! Do women shun those who don't like The Notebook and other horrible chick flicks? I don't know, I've never talked to one, but maybe they do and it's a gender equivalent group bonding exercise. I would, however, rather watch part of T2 than an equivalent amount of Eraserhead and Videodrome, at least T2 isn't pretending that it has a deeper meaning.

The movies I do like are actually quite mainstream, I just shock people with the breadth and depth of my contempt. Besides There Will Be Blood, the other movies in my top 5 are probably The Godfather Pt. 1 (Part 2 was still good, but I'm the only person apparently who thought it wasn't nearly as good), Fargo, No Country For Old Men, and Dr. Strangelove, but don't hold me to that as absolute truth, I hate best of lists and I don't care that much about movies. I even think Zoolander and Tropic Thunder were funny movies! I liked the blatant audience pandering and wild inaccuracies of The Hurt Locker! See, I'm warm and fuzzy once you get past the spikes. 


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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 22:53
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 despite being absolutely terrible movies except for fulfilling a fantasy of vicariously blowing sh*t up. Die Hard is a stupid movie and acknowledging and reveling in its stupidity doesn't make it any better. 

There's no breadth or depth to your contempt at all. Writing something off as stupid because it has explosions in it is actually quite puerile. If you can't tell the difference between a Michael Bay flick and T2 or Die Hard then you shouldn't be talking movies. 


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 23:07
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 despite being absolutely terrible movies except for fulfilling a fantasy of vicariously blowing sh*t up. Die Hard is a stupid movie and acknowledging and reveling in its stupidity doesn't make it any better. 

There's no breadth or depth to your contempt at all. Writing something off as stupid because it has explosions in it is actually quite puerile. If you can't tell the difference between a Michael Bay flick and T2 or Die Hard then you shouldn't be talking movies. 

Oh no, I have been judged to have bad taste in stupid action movies with abysmal dialogue and characterization, whatever will I do. As far as I can remember, I haven't actually seen any Michael Bay movies, but I have as much desire to see one of his movies as I do to watch Die Hard 2 or the rest of Terminator. So I guess I'll never know which is worse. I'll just have to carry on, somehow.

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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 23:22
No votes for Junior? C'mon! It has Arnold saying in his best Arnold accent "my nipples are sensitive."


Henry is wrong about T2 and Die Hard, but he is right about Eraserhead (and I like most of Lynch's other films) so that makes up for it.


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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: December 09 2010 at 23:25
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Oh no, I have been judged to have bad taste in stupid action movies with abysmal dialogue and characterization, whatever will I do. As far as I can remember, I haven't actually seen any Michael Bay movies, but I have as much desire to see one of his movies as I do to watch Die Hard 2 or the rest of Terminator.

Well like they say, "opinions are like a-holes ..."  I find them to be classic well made films and you think noodling around making random annoying noise on guitar is genius. Who's to say?  


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 04:20
they are classic well-made films; T2 has some great moments.  Unfortunately it was also made toothless by Cameron's taste for sugary sentiment and in-jokes, betraying the spirit of the first film's stark, economic storytelling.  As for Die Hard, good when it came out, doesn't hold up as well.  On the other hand, the Alien franchise is still thoroughly watchable, IMO, all four films exceptional in their own way though very different.

Greatest Arnie movie?  Batman and Robin .. just kidding.  If we're not including Pumping Iron, it's gotta be Conan





Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 07:55
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

they are classic well-made films; T2 has some great moments.  Unfortunately it was also made toothless by Cameron's taste for sugary sentiment and in-jokes, betraying the spirit of the first film's stark, economic storytelling.  As for Die Hard, good when it came out, doesn't hold up as well.  On the other hand, the Alien franchise is still thoroughly watchable, IMO, all films of the original trilogy exceptional in their own way though very different.



Agreed.


Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 14:55
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

they are classic well-made films; T2 has some great moments.  Unfortunately it was also made toothless by Cameron's taste for sugary sentiment and in-jokes, betraying the spirit of the first film's stark, economic storytelling.  As for Die Hard, good when it came out, doesn't hold up as well.  On the other hand, the Alien franchise is still thoroughly watchable, IMO, all four films exceptional in their own way though very different.

You talk about betraying a films spirit, then you go on to say all four Alien movies are exceptional? Umm, Resurrection, anybody? This cornball was a total betrayal of the series. Even Joss Whedon (the writer) is embarrassed of this disgrace. Also, if any movie is a bit rough around the edges it's T1. 


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 10 2010 at 19:08
Originally posted by TheClosing TheClosing wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

they are classic well-made films; T2 has some great moments.  Unfortunately it was also made toothless by Cameron's taste for sugary sentiment and in-jokes, betraying the spirit of the first film's stark, economic storytelling.  As for Die Hard, good when it came out, doesn't hold up as well.  On the other hand, the Alien franchise is still thoroughly watchable, IMO, all four films exceptional in their own way though very different.
You talk about betraying a films spirit, then you go on to say all four Alien movies are exceptional? Umm, Resurrection, anybody? This cornball was a total betrayal of the series. Even Joss Whedon (the writer) is embarrassed of this disgrace.


yes this is a very valid point, even the second Alien movie veers quite far from the original





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