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Topic: ELP is over according to Carl Palmer
Posted By: richardh
Subject: ELP is over according to Carl Palmer
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 09:35
No great surprise and obviously a bit sad for long time ELP fans like myself. I was glad to be at High Voltage to see their last performance and there will be a DVD release at some point. Here is the link:
http://www.planetrock.com/Article.asp?id=2010273&spid=35830&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NL0511 - http://www.planetrock.com/Article.asp?id=2010273&spid=35830&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NL0511



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Posted By: toroddfuglesteg
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 09:38
I think that was pretty obvious that the High Voltage gig was their last ever gig. But nice to get it confirmed. 


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 09:42
And I didn't go! I was always sort of hoping for that final ELP album that was a a better epitaph than Hot Seat.  Oh well.

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 09:46
Yes I too will be a bit sad at their collaboration ending but they've been putting off the inevitable for years now. Carl stuck me as being refreshingly honest about the whole reunion fetish pursued by promoters and reading between the lines, seemed genuinely dismayed about the waning powers and lack of creativity displayed by both Keith and Greg?



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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 10:07
ELP has been dying a slow death for many many years.  Here's to the great music they gave us in the '70's. Big smile

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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: November 06 2010 at 11:42
Just a general observation here. When posting in the news section, please state in the initial post what the news actually is. A link to verify the news is great of course.
 
Ideally, the news links on the home page appear as a list of headlines summarising the news, and the first post gives the details. Thanks.
 
(I've updated the thread title here)


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:15
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Just a general observation here. When posting in the news section, please state in the initial post what the news actually is. A link to verify the news is great of course.
 
Ideally, the news links on the home page appear as a list of headlines summarising the news, and the first post gives the details. Thanks.
 
(I've updated the thread title here)
sorry I did this in rush just as I was about to leave the house for the weekend. Thanks for changing the thread heading as it did perhaps look a bit more terminal than I had intended.Embarrassed


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 13:21
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Yes I too will be a bit sad at their collaboration ending but they've been putting off the inevitable for years now. Carl stuck me as being refreshingly honest about the whole reunion fetish pursued by promoters and reading between the lines, seemed genuinely dismayed about the waning powers and lack of creativity displayed by both Keith and Greg?

I thought that as well. If you happen to get hold of his latest CD 'Working Live Volume 3' recorded earlier in the year it includes a version of Pictures At An Exhibition with Carl playing exactly like he did on the original ELP release in 1971 (allbeit a little slower). At High Voltage he cut out a lot of the fills simply I expect because the other 2 would have struggled to match him. Sad really but there it is.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 15:23
I didn't go to High Voltage, and I know it is always dangerous to take a set off the telly, but, from what i saw, I think this is absolutely the right decision.

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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 07 2010 at 17:50
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Just a general observation here. When posting in the news section, please state in the initial post what the news actually is. A link to verify the news is great of course.
 
Ideally, the news links on the home page appear as a list of headlines summarising the news, and the first post gives the details. Thanks.
 
(I've updated the thread title here)
sorry I did this in rush just as I was about to leave the house for the weekend. Thanks for changing the thread heading as it did perhaps look a bit more terminal than I had intended.Embarrassed

Please leave RIP for worse things. I thought somebody died, but it's only one more last gig. 


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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 04:21
Bye ELP, you will be missed..........
 
thank you for albums: 
Tarkus
Brain salad Surgery
Trilogy
Ladies and gentlemen Emerson Lake and Palmer...
 
and songs...
 
Take a Pebble
Fanfare for Common Man
Karn Evil 9
Black Moon
The Barbarian
 
 
 
hope you can at least bring out one decent album as Hot Seat aint no way to bow out of the scene...


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 06:10
Good riddance.  You were one of the artists that turned me in to the pathetic prog addict I am today. Tongue

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Posted By: Kojak
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 14:35
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

ELP has been dying a slow death for many many years.  Here's to the great music they gave us in the '70's. Big smile


This, but I agree with Atomic also, Hot Seat was no way to finish a fantastic musical career...


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 15:07
It's a damn shame. I'm glad I got to see them. I was a very late, and for a while reluctant addition to their fan base.

Glad I eventually 'got it'

Thanks for the music chaps!


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 15:10
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

ELP has been dying a slow death for many many years.  

I blame Youtube.


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 15:28
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

ELP has been dying a slow death for many many years.  

I blame Youtube.


LOL Clap


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Posted By: Theriver
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 15:54

Well, sad but there are still lots of bands as good as ELP that need and deserve to be listen too and don't have a quarter of their fame or wealth.



Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 16:14
As a long time fan I think it's the right decision. ELP's peak was in the 70s and more than many of the other frontline prog bands they relied on youthful dynamism and energy to do justice to material like Pictures, KE9 and The Barbarian. I'm pleased they managed to raise their game for one last, respectable hurrah at High Voltage and that I was there to see it.

For a while back in the 70s ELP were the best, an amazing mix of prog and hard rock,  and the thunderous power of their performances easily matched the likes of Led Zeppelin. Thanks lads!Thumbs Up


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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 08 2010 at 16:23
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Bye ELP, you will be missed..........

Amen. 
Though don't hurry, guys, with epitaphs. Many bands and artists do farewell gigs or tours. Some already did it several times. Smile


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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:52
Tina Turner Syndrome


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 14:45
You should rename the thread. When I read the title I thought ELP were over because Carl Palmer had died.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 14:59
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

You should rename the thread. When I read the title I thought ELP were over because Carl Palmer had died.
Originalyl I had called it just' ELP- RIP'.  Easy Livin then changed it to give a bit more detail that was needed. I think the RIP should be removed altogether but I don't think I can now edit it.
.....Sorry it turns out I can edit it. Hope that's okay now.


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 15:31
Yeah, I thought you were about to tell us Carl Palmer had exploded on his drum stool, or died in a bizarre gardening accident..

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 15:33
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

You should rename the thread. When I read the title I thought ELP were over because Carl Palmer had died.


(Perish the thought) but in the event of the untimely demise of Carl, they could continue
as ELP with say...Neil Peart? Wink


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 15:49
^^^ Ooohh... Don't open that can of worms!

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: November 09 2010 at 15:58
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

You should rename the thread. When I read the title I thought ELP were over because Carl Palmer had died.


(Perish the thought) but in the event of the untimely demise of Carl, they could continue
as ELP with say...Neil Peart? Wink
No, they're obviously going to reform with the Mike Portnoy, since he's unemployed now.


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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: November 11 2010 at 22:43
Don't worry guys, there's still the possibility of an ELPowell reunion.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: November 11 2010 at 23:16
Eric Peachey would be another option (though I have no idea if he is still alive). Judging by the only album I have heard that he appears on he is as good as they come.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 12 2010 at 01:57

Emerson ,Lake and Portnoy does have a bit of a ring about it. Batten down the hatches and make sure your pets are indoorsLOL



Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: November 12 2010 at 03:53
Originally posted by Harry Hood Harry Hood wrote:

Don't worry guys, there's still the possibility of an ELPowell reunion.


Erm...with Colin Powell to replace the late Cozy?


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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 11:41
Emerson, Lake and Pointer?

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 05:38
What about Emerson, Jackson and Davidson ? Tongue

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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 08:29
Well there's always Simon Philips, who Emerson has worked with before.

Perhaps they could just add the letter P in front of any suitable candidate - Phil Pollins? Or how about Phil Rudd from AC/DC. Emerson Lake and Pudd - I think that might be a goer! Geek

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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 08:36
I know Palmer said E and L's skills are waning, but suggesting a guy who can't physically hold drum sticks anymore and the most straightforward rock drummer in the world might be overreacting LOL

(kidding, just to clarify, I know you didn't suggest them)


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 08:45
Some suitable "P"s:

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Ian_Paice.html - Ian Paice
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Earl_Palmer.html - Earl Palmer
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Panama_Francis.html - Francis Panama
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Chris_Parker.html - Chris Parker
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Leon_Parker.html - Leon Parker
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jose_Pasillas.html - Jose Pasillas
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Vinnie_Paul.html - Vinnie Paul
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jim_Payne.html - Jim Payne
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Sonny_Payne.html - Sonny Payne
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Neil_Peart.html - Neil Peart
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Shawn_Pelton.html - Shawn Pelton
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Clarence_Penn.html - Clarence Penn
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Chris_Pennie.html - Chris Pennie
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Karl_Perazzo.html - Karl Perazzo
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Robert_Perkins.html - Robert Perkins
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Stephen_Perkins.html - Stephen Perkins
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Ben_Perowsky.html - Ben Perowsky
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Doane_Perry.html - Doane Perry
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Charli_Persip.html - Charli Persip
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Ralph_Peterson.html - Ralph Peterson
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Pat_Petrillo.html - Pat Petrillo
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Simon_Phillips.html - Simon Phillips
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Kim_Plainfield.html - Kim Plainfield
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Felix_Pollard.html - Felix Pollard
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Joe_Porcaro.html - Joe Porcaro
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jeff_Porcaro.html - Jeff Porcaro
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Mike_Portnoy.html - Mike Portnoy
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Cozy_Powell.html - Cozy Powell
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Bobby_Previte.html - Bobby Previte
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Thomas_Pridgen.html - Thomas Pridgen
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Aquiles_Priester.html - Aquiles Priester
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Dafnis_Prieto.html - Dafnis Prieto
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Tito_Puente.html - Tito Puente
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Bernard_Purdie.html - Bernard Purdie


Courtesy of 
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 08:46
oops, sorry. I have just spotted some of them no longer alive...

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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 08:46
I vote for Jeff Porcaro.

ah, a second too late Embarrassed


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Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 09:18
Originally posted by Pekka Pekka wrote:

I know Palmer said E and L's skills are waning, but suggesting a guy who can't physically hold drum sticks anymore and the most straightforward rock drummer in the world might be overreacting LOL

(kidding, just to clarify, I know you didn't suggest them)


I'd forgotten about Phil Collins' problems. A good job I didn't suggest Buddy Prich!Wink


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 25 2010 at 11:28
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

You should rename the thread. When I read the title I thought ELP were over because Carl Palmer had died.

This just in, Carl Palmer has been killed by a bunch of palm trees:
http://www.beachpicturesbeachpictures.net/beach-picture-sunset-palm-trees-shashchatter.jpg
at Love Beach...


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Posted By: Thandrus
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 07:23

That's frustrating...

As for me, I honestly, do not believe that they couldn't make any more of good music. Keith Emerson had a great album in 2008, and Palmer still holds the level. Dunno about lake, but from High Voltage record, he also was in fair shape.



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 26 2010 at 07:43
"To be over
We will see
To be over"
Oh wait, that's Yes. Tongue

Also, it took Carl this long to get the notice? LOL


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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: December 29 2010 at 09:35
Originally posted by Thandrus Thandrus wrote:

That's frustrating...

As for me, I honestly, do not believe that they couldn't make any more of good music. Keith Emerson had a great album in 2008, and Palmer still holds the level. Dunno about lake, but from High Voltage record, he also was in fair shape.



In fair shape ? - he was almost completely spherical! 


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 02 2011 at 17:29
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

Originally posted by Thandrus Thandrus wrote:

That's frustrating...

As for me, I honestly, do not believe that they couldn't make any more of good music. Keith Emerson had a great album in 2008, and Palmer still holds the level. Dunno about lake, but from High Voltage record, he also was in fair shape.



In fair shape ? - he was almost completely spherical! 
Which is a nice shapeBig smile



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