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Topic: Beatles Remasters question

Posted By: TODDLER
Subject: Beatles Remasters question
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 18:40

The Beatles digi-pak remasters were released when? Just before Christmas of 2009? I was informed that they are a limited edition. Does anyone know how long they will be available? or how much longer? I tried to research the answer and couldn't even locate a thread where fans discuss it, let alone information about these particular versions being limited. I'm just wondering how much time do I have left to purchase them, as the Rolling Stones digi-packs were recalled or sold out in a year.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 07:06

Well, there's still plenty of them in the shops.

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 07:09

As far as I can see the box sets and USB stick editions are limited but there's no mention of the normal digipak versions being limited, including the new Red and Blue editions that have just been released. I don't see why the normal editions would be limited anyway, surely they don't want people to go back to buying the old versions?

Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 07:52

chopper wrote:

As far as I can see the box sets and USB stick editions are limited but there's no mention of the normal digipak versions being limited, including the new Red and Blue editions that have just been released. I don't see why the normal editions would be limited anyway, surely they don't want people to go back to buying the old versions?

I wasn't totally clear. After the Stones digi-pack remasters sold out, they re-released the remasters in a jewel case version. This is the case in which I am making reference to The Beatles. If the industry decides to cut corners soon, like maybe in another year obviously because Beatles probably sell more than anyone, the digi-pks will be re-released in jewel case form. It';s a common trait of the industry to conduct business this way. All calculated percentages at the end of each year for an artist's cd sales control the decision making in this aspect.

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 08:14

So you were specifically referring to the digi-paks themselves being limited? Sorry, didn't appreciate that, I thought you were just referring to the remasters. You may well be right then.

Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 08:28

chopper wrote:

So you were specifically referring to the digi-paks themselves being limited? Sorry, didn't appreciate that, I thought you were just referring to the remasters. You may well be right then.

Oh no! Then it looks as if I'm screwed. Are you sure you don't know how to locate an article or forum based discussion that would give me some answers on this issue?

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 10:22

TODDLER wrote:

chopper wrote:

So you were specifically referring to the digi-paks themselves being limited? Sorry, didn't appreciate that, I thought you were just referring to the remasters. You may well be right then.

Oh no! Then it looks as if I'm screwed. Are you sure you don't know how to locate an article or forum based discussion that would give me some answers on this issue?

Other than by Googling it, no. I had a quick look on the Beatles site itself and it just says the box sets and USB stick are limited. It would be a shame if they went back to jewel cases, but I would have thought they were more expensive than the cardboard digipaks. Anyone know?

Of course the solution is to start buying them now but I assume you have financial constraints?

Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 10:47

Usually digipaks are more or less limited editions, no?

Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 11:13

Even digipak versions available in Beijing last Easter.....

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 13:08

Vompatti wrote:

Usually digipaks are more or less limited editions, no?

Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 13:23

Buy the Mono Box Set.

Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:19

There is no way EMI will have the Beatles limted.

The Mono Box was supposed to have been limited but there are plenty around. Limited to 100 million I'd say

Those new remastered stereo jobs in digi are here for good. The exact replicas are in the Mono which is the way to go for sound anyway. I will add I own plenty of Mini lps but they are a pain in the bum getting them out and putting them away. Now jewel cases are great for the lazy man.

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 07:50

JLocke wrote:

Buy the Mono Box Set.

Indeed it's better sounding than the Stereo versions but the low is still disapointing: too soft and not clean. The highs are pleasant however.

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 08:00

JLocke wrote:

Buy the Mono Box Set.

If we were meant to listen to mono, God wouldn't have given us 2 ears.

Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 08:19

Yes but most of their albums has been originally released in mono so the stereo version is not a real one, but a recreated stereo.
In this case, it's often better in Mono.

Wikipedia:

Intention

The Mono Box Set was released to reflect the fact that the Beatles' catalogue (aside from Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road, and Let It Be) was originally released in mono, in addition to stereo. Many feel that these mono mixes reflect the true intention of the band. For example, in the case of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, all the mono mixes were done together with the Beatles themselves, throughout the recording of the album, whereas the stereo mixes were done in only six days by George Martin, Geoff Emerick and Richard Lush after the album had been finished, with none of the Beatles attending.[2] George Harrison commented:

“ At that time [...] the console was about this big with four faders on it. And there was one speaker right in the middle [...] and that was it. When they invented stereo, I remember thinking 'Why? What do you want two speakers for?', because it ruined the sound from our point of view. You know, we had everything coming out of one speaker; now it had to come out of two speakers. It sounded like...very...naked.[3]

Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 08:58

@ Toddler

I would either buy the digipacks now or put on layby as I know they will sell out quickly and never be available again. Thats what happened to the others. Can not get them anywhere.

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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 09:30

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

@ Toddler

I would either buy the digipacks now or put on layby as I know they will sell out quickly and never be available again. Thats what happened to the others. Can not get them anywhere.

Thanks. You are probably right. I am thinking that they may be on their way out with a new replacement. The Industry is so predictable in that way. Look at the Kinks for example. They were very huge in the early 60's and all their albums were available domestically. They had popularity again in the 70's and more albums sold. They were a unique version of British Invasion, influenced the Punk era, etc. Their cd's have not been remastered and released in domestic form since the late 80's or early 90's. All the remastered releases are British imports only. What would be the harm in releasing their material remastered in the U.S. at a cheaper price? Americans would buy it. You have little kids walking around singing their songs. No joke....what's the deal?

Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 23 2011 at 09:33

..and they'll complain that the disc industry goes bad...

Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 24 2011 at 07:22

oliverstoned wrote:

Yes but most of their albums has been originally released in mono so the stereo version is not a real one, but a recreated stereo.
In this case, it's often better in Mono.

Wikipedia:

Intention

The Mono Box Set was released to reflect the fact that the Beatles' catalogue (aside from Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road, and Let It Be) was originally released in mono, in addition to stereo. Many feel that these mono mixes reflect the true intention of the band. For example, in the case of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, all the mono mixes were done together with the Beatles themselves, throughout the recording of the album, whereas the stereo mixes were done in only six days by George Martin, Geoff Emerick and Richard Lush after the album had been finished, with none of the Beatles attending.[2] George Harrison commented:

“ At that time [...] the console was about this big with four faders on it. And there was one speaker right in the middle [...] and that was it. When they invented stereo, I remember thinking 'Why? What do you want two speakers for?', because it ruined the sound from our point of view. You know, we had everything coming out of one speaker; now it had to come out of two speakers. It sounded like...very...naked.[3]

Yes you're right, I was joking. Most Beatles albums were originally mixed in mono and there are some differences between the mono and stereo mixes of Sgt Pepper and The White Album. I'm just not a fan of mono. The stereo separation of Beatles songs is a bit eccentric occasionally but I like it.

Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 24 2011 at 07:25

OK. I know what you mean, when you're used to the holographic effect of stereo, it's hard to come back to Mono.