Belgian Chamber Prog scene
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Topic: Belgian Chamber Prog scene
Posted By: Sean Trane
Subject: Belgian Chamber Prog scene
Date Posted: June 09 2005 at 04:20
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In two hours time , I will bang my head on the wall because I forgot such and such Just the difficult Belgian stuff, discussed here. Machiavel, Banzai , Now, Isopoda are out of context here because too symphonic ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: June 09 2005 at 04:27
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I don't know any of them ------------- Eppur si muove |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: June 09 2005 at 04:38
| Me neither.... |
Posted By: abyssyinfinity
Date Posted: June 09 2005 at 13:28
Univers Zero, anyway my preferred Belgian prog group is Recreation... 
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: June 09 2005 at 16:27
To be honest, I've only heard Univers Zero 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: June 09 2005 at 16:38
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the same for me.... ive only heard univers zero ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: dense13
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 01:29
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Only know four of the bands, but I'll vote anyway: Univers Zero is my
choice, although this opinion is based on the early albums (prior to
The Hard Quest). I haven't heard the last album yet, but my
expectations have dropped a lot. Anyway, let's celebrate Ceux du Dehors!
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 07:59
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Univers Zero got my vote as well Hugues, although I was tempted to go for Aksak Maboul because I doubt that anyone else will. I've never heard of some of them, but I think Fukkeduk is a wonderful name for a band! ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 08:13
| The only one from this list I know is Univers Zero... Which of the remainder would you most recommend, Sean? |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 10 2005 at 08:27
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Present is an offshoot from Univers Zero. 80's album were incredibly somber music , all electric and both excellent albums. Since 97 Present albums have become more acoustic and can be classified in Musique Nouvelle, and one came out this week. As I said in previous posts, Pazop and Cos (on Musea label so they should not be too difficult to get) are Canterbury and both recommended. For jazz-rock fans (along Bitches Brew and Nucleus line ) , but on vinyl only (there is a compilation out) Placebo was extraordinary : 3 Lps in early 70's with Balls Of eyes their best. Julverne is mostly classical music but is mainly linked to all other groups. Among the later groups, Hardscore is semi-Zappa with Kate Bush vocals. Cro-Magnon is a bit like the Samla Manna/Von Zamla trip , Joren could tell you more of Absinth Minded but they sound rather Eastern European. X-legged Sally is hi-nrg prog ! Must hear to believe. But stick with the groups in Bold character first. I have reviewed most of the groups listed in the archives, so to choose an album look at those.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: DolphinFan
Date Posted: June 12 2005 at 00:42
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Belgian Chamber Prog????????????? Get a life dude. |
Posted By: dense13
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:27
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The four bands I already know, I love them! (UZ, Present, Aksak Maboul,
Aka Moon) I'm looking for music from the other bands, if they are any
close to the 4 above I'm sure I'll enjoy them heaps. Thanks Sean! My two cents about Aka Moon: I only have one album, Aka Moon (92), and I strongly reccomend it if you don't mind some complexity. They are a trio (sax, bass, drums), at least in that album, and play very 'clean' music (no fancy arrangments, effects, overdubbing...), just the three instruments recorded plainly. Lots of improvisation, a bit jazzy, none of the 'darkness' (I find that a very delicate adjective, but anyway) of the UZ-style bands, very elaborate and compelling rhythmic structures... I hope that sounds interesting and some of you give them a try! :) I think other albums have other instrumentation and the atmosphere might change, maybe Sean can help with that. ------------- http://www.dense13.com - www.dense13.com |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 03:52
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For those interested: Univers Zero is playing tomorrow night at 8PM in The Halles De Schaerbeek (Brussels ) and Present is playing at 10:30 PM at the Studio Athanor also in Brussels. They have agreed to change the hours so they could share the fans. Now how progressive is that?!? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: dense13
Date Posted: June 23 2005 at 23:17
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Sean Trane: hey,
you've got lot's of work then: must enjoy it yourself and in the name
of all the ones who are too far from Belgium! Lucky you... I wish you a
great night, I'm sure it will be! I suppose I don't have many chances
to see them in Australia... sigh. I should have planned a trip to
Belgium when I was in Spain. ------------- http://www.dense13.com - www.dense13.com |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 17:57
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Univers Zero in small doses is very good. ------------- 
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Posted By: dense13
Date Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:57
And in big doses it's even better! 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 07:09
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As my article on this is bound to come out soon in the definition page............ let's see if there is more people acquainted with this stuff! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 07:16
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I only know Present, Univers Zero, Aksak Maboul, Julverne, Placebo and X-legged Sally. My favorites among them are - Univers Zero, Present and Aksak Maboul. I don't like very much choosing and stating the best but I would say I love hearing very much UZ and after that Aksak Maboul and then Present, but this can probably change. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 07:33
Knowing of Julverne and Placebo is already quite a feat Although X-legged Sally has disbanded around 97, one of his leader Pierre Vervloesem is having a good solo career, Check out his Grosso Modo album
BTW are missing in my list are Recreation (Canterbury), Kandahar(Canterbury) and Tideline (jazz-rock) ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
avestin wrote:Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 08:00
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 03:46
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bump ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 08:52
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And as I have the inexplicable ability to vote again I shall now gladly cast a vote for X-Legged Sally. So glad to have discovered them.
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Posted By: vogre
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 09:03
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Fukkeduk make some very fun jazzy RIO. I think they are an oofshot of Cro-Magnon. Too bad they only have 1 album. Hardscore were pretty good(heard the Methane album). Aka Moon are very good- complex, sometimes avant - but stil relaxed. My favorite band would be Present. |
Posted By: Crimsoner
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 10:26
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I'll go with UZ.
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Posted By: calgary669
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 13:07
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To me, UZ is one of the best around the world playing that style of music, period! I just received their new live CD, and it's mindblowing! ------------- What happened to this song we once knew so well??? |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 13:25
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I have Univers Zero ''1313'',I find it hard and challenging to listen to.Very dark and brooding.I 'm not sure it's their best and most representative. Cos ''Postealonian Train Robbery''.Great Canterbury with Zheul traces.Female voices that reminds me of National Health/Hatfield and the North,also Zao comes to mind. Pazop.I don't remember the title,but it's a complete album of mostly unreleased stuff recorded in the early 70's.Violin.flute,sax AND humor a la Supersister ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 03:51
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Great remarks!! Thanks guys ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 04:18
I have Heresie and Heatwave Which I really love and I just ordered "Ceux Du Dehors". I love hard and challenging music, just give me more of that. As I have this OCD (like I confessed in another thread you probably know here) I'll probably get all of their albums eventaully. Besides them I also want to buy Aksak Maboul, Present, Julverne and X-Legged Sally. You probably guess in which format I currently listen to them ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 05:39
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I got more response in two days than in six months, does thismean, that the average member is more adventurous nowadays?
Just a very weak excuse of a philosophical question as a pretext to bump this back to the first page ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 06:01
Cos/ Viva boma (1976)
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 06:31
I don't know about other members, but I have been in a very RIOesque/AVANTesque mood lately. There are some albums I just keep on listening to (UZ and Thinking Plague among them). Actually, I just posted this so Sean will be glad his thread remains up there... ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 05:22
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thanks Avestin, that is mightily thoughtful of you ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 07 2006 at 04:15
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anymore reactions? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 07 2006 at 08:20
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I got today "Slow Up" by X-Legged Sally. Only one review on this site for it. And guess who wrote it? I'll listen to it later. I have high expectations. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 02:57
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I also received yesterday - Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors. I already have Heatwave and Heresie which I really love, so I reckon this one will probably please me as well.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 03:34
Ceux Du Dehors is the cornerstone album of their early career, linking the completely acoustic period of the 1313 and Heresie period to the definitely more electric and more accessible later period - of which I find Uzed their best example until the Implosion album. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 05:10
Thanks. You know, you can post that as a review .------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 05:19
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BTW- I think the name Ceux Du Dehors is really good and mysterious, just brilliant. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 12:05
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There is a brand new live Univers Zero album that got released this months and you will be hearing yours trully yelling and applausing in the public
June 24th at Les Halles De Scharbeek - over by 10:30 PM and half the public rushing out to see Present playing three Km away - they had delayed so the public could see both ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 11 2006 at 11:37
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ great evening that was with the two groups putting in a sizzling performance ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: February 11 2006 at 12:09
Must be awesome to see Univers Zero live, I love Heresie  Haven't heard any of the other bands though I'm afraid |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 12 2006 at 06:36
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You will be able to see them live in your living room soon as there is a DVD coming out soon Live in Paris for the Tritonales Should be very close to the CD and the show I saw ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: February 12 2006 at 07:04
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I know and love Present, Univers Zero, Aksak Maboul, and X-Legged Sally. I suppose I will look into the others too. ...and Univers Zero is my favourite. |
Posted By: Agemo
Date Posted: February 12 2006 at 10:59
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I like the Belgian band D.A.A.U. a lot, especially "We need new animals". Live they are even better. |
Posted By: wooty
Date Posted: February 12 2006 at 16:43
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Sean, thanks to your reviews, I just picked up the cd by Pazop and it
is fantastic. looking forward to more. Do you have a website like James
Unger's that I can bookmark?
------------- "We turn and turn in the animal belly, the mineral belly, the belly of time. To find the way out: the poem." |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 03:51
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No I do not But I also have James Unger's site bookmarked He is very eclectic in his taste He reviewed the Placebo record I sent him, but he never said a single word of Pazop, that I sent along that day too ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 05:57
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Can Anybody help me with Kandahar and Tideline.... I cannot seem to find much on these guys ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 05:36
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Sean, I decided to resurrect this thread from the depths of Limbo, and also ask you a queation: I know Un Peu De L'âme Des Bandits by Aksak Maboul and I love it but how is their first one Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine? Another question:
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 07:30
Aksak Maboul 's debut album is a rather more diffcult IMHO, and is not for playing to your guest unless your mother-in-law is over These guys divided into two faction one being called Les Tueurs De La Lune De Miel and on the other side The Honeymoon Killers! I have not heard either As for Hardscore, I heard there is a brand new album out, but know nothing about it. I only heard the second one which , if memory serves, sounds like Zappa is jumping bones Kate Bush ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:56
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I was going through Belgian bands labeled under RIO and found those three: All of their albums have only one review, and you get one guess by who? So Mr. Chantraine, where should I start? According to your reviews I thought I'd begin with Yellow by FINNEGANS WAKE (as I like to go chronoligically). Now all I need to do is find it...
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 11:01
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Finnegans Wake: my fave is 4th (a double Cd). Yellow is badly produced but very Canterbury-esque. Henry Krutzen has been around since the early 80's and has a few album that can be of interest to progheads. Syn-phonic should still have all four. I never heard Pictures Schell and Karo: My fave is Blwch - avoid the third one where Plouvier gets replacedby Manderlier: the synth sounds choices are very debatable on this last album. might just be tricky to find, though Speaking of Schell , the last Cos album has been re-issued: Passiones , a concept album about the Spanish civil war - very Belew crimson sounding. Viva Boma has just recived a new re-issue with Musea also . All these can be found at Greg Walker Recreation : both albums on one Cd >> great deal. But tracks listing are screwed up for the real order of tracks check in the PA page.
http://synphonic.8m.com/index.htm - http://synphonic.8m.com/index.htm ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:21
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OK then, I'll go for Finnegans Wake 4th and Recreation combined release. And maybe some Cos, starting with your recommendation - Viva Boma ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 14:49
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*Micky feels onset of inferiority complex coming on hahahhaha* then again.. that's why I love it here. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 15:09
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Throw away this inferiority complex and pick your band. I am also not too familiar with this scene, that is why I bother people like Sean, Erik, Andrew, Jody Mike etc. to give me their recommendations. In this thread I think you'll find more than a handful of good suggestions. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 16:06
YES SIR!!! hahahah.... I'll put one of these on my next order... question is... which one  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 16:13
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Well, assuming you like this particular genre of prog (meaning RIO and belgian Chamber prog as Sean puts it) I would suggest to start with either: Univers Zero - Heatwave, Heresie X-Legged Sally - The Land Of The Giant Dwarfs Thinking Plague - In Extremis, A History of Madness Miriodor - Jongleries Elastiques , Mekano ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 16:21
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I'm there.... haven't been put off by any RiO I've heard (a devout Prog fan I am hahaha) so I'll order Heatwave this week.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 07 2006 at 00:07
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Wo, you sure are determined, Micky, way to go. I need to add a few UZ albums to my collection as well. And some others from the above list, which I usually find in the two (real) shops I sometimes visit. THe others I'll leave for online purchase. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 03:43
Actually I rewrote the reviews of Cos's firsttwo albums, because they were highly unsatisfactory to me So here goes the first one COS Postaeolian Train Robbery  — 4,5 stars Really!!!Cos came to be from the ashes of Classroom which had never released an album but they had recorded a few tracks (they are presented as bonus tracks to the first Cos album. Led by Daniel Schell and incorporating Charles Loos and especially angel-voiced Pascale Son, this group will release a bunch of absolute little wonders that every proghead must hear, even more so if you are into Canterbury music. Right from the opening title track, with Cos introducing themselves to you with all the fresh weirdness that only Belgian groups can, and Son’s great wind instruments taking over right after it, you know you are in for a real treat. And Plunge you in their world, they do, but I must warn you that there might not be a way out, not that you would ever want to exit this maze after getting trapped into it. Yes, fellow progheads, I said trapped!! Because Cos and I will leave you no chance to escape their kingdom of pure musical exhilaration. Oh, I will take no great part in this feat, but I will bait you enough with this review, that the only thing you will have to do is actually listen to the album and Cos will do the rest themselves. Hey Daniell don’t forget the envelope with the unmarked used bills ;-) I just wish L!!! Cocalnut is a slow developer but behind Pascale Son’s moanings (and then superb scattings) the group is building a solid foundation with Loos’s piano taking the spotlight from the background, and Schell pulling an excellent solo, but this is Son’s moments. Her ability to use her voice as an instrument is simply astounding ranging from Wyatt to Kate Bush to operatic influences or even more like Barb Gaskin or Amanda Parsons in National Health (but preceding them by three or four years). Solo Vander-like drumming starts the third track, but this is only a starter to Ratledge-like pianos and a solid bass line are one the menu. Son’s scatting is again at the centre of the group’s success. The funkier and jazzy Populi is a welcome interlude being a bit upbeat and tighter. Halucal is a short instrumental (even Pascale’s voice needs a rest although she contributes winds) and is build on the Fender Rhodes. Coloc is a great closer with Loos in a lenghty solo, slowly being joined by a fuzzy bass (Hugh Hopper is not far) and then Son’s superb voice meandering between clouds, sun and lightning and again Loos’s fuzzy organs (sometimes Caravan meeting Mahavishnu or even the mystic Caravanserai) >>>> Awesome AND grandiose!!!! Classroom’s demo tracks included as bonus tracks are just as worthy as the album and make this record an excellent value. The main difference (outside a very different line-up and a very present viraphone) is that Pascale vocals have actually lyrics, and her singing-words is just as impressive as her scatting. La Partie D’Echecs is hilarious as she tells us that the white pawn of the chess game is lifting her dress and the vile bishop slayed her, the whole thing sung at such a speed that one would’ve wondered if their Lp was not on 45 RPM (had this been ever released at the time of course). There are also some subtle Zeuhl influences in their music as they shared (as Classroom) stages with Placebo, Univers Zero, Zao and Magma. Sur Deux is a great instrumental concentrating on vibes and guitars. Achille is a rather lenghty but impressive exercise for Pascale and the vibes to make love to each other. Musea made a great job of reconstructing the group’s history and with this album hold one of their greater achievements, the preservation of Cos’s early works. This is truly of one those albums that defines Belgian prog and it should belong in everyone’s collection alongside Hatfield.
Links to Recreation and Placebo are outlined in the new reviews. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:44
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I have nine albums by Univers Zero, one by Daniel Denis - "Sirius and the ghost", one by Cos "Postaeollian train robbery" and one by Cro-Magnon - "Bull ?" 1997. My favorite is one by Cro-Magnon. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:50
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Oh, how could I forget - I have also two albums by Present - both are amazingly good - "Certitudes" and "High Infidelity". But still "Bull?" is just a tick better for me....and no one else voted for it. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 11:58
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sorry but never heard of any of them! don't know if that's a bad thing or what! ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: March 10 2006 at 14:40
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Don't worry, most are relatively obscure. You should at least investigate Univers Zero though. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Violenza/?chartstyle=tree"> 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:05
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Bull is easily Cro Magnon's best album so far
You might want to try to get a hold of Present's first two albums on one CD. Very different than what they have done since reforming in the mid-90's Ultra sombre music ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:15
Many thanks for advice. Will keep an eye on it. And when you say "Bull" is the best by Cro-Magnon, do you mean that other albums are not up to par with it? Please advise as I keep looking for their other works as well. Is it worth my efforts/money?
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 05:25
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Bull! is certainly their most energetic and most electric album All three of their album are vastly different from each other Zapp! is acoustic chamber rock/classic much like UZ's Ceux Du Dehors while the third Brosella is a bit of ethno jazz-rock/fusion - mostly acoustic too>> fairly quiet. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 06:16
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I finally voted for Univers Zero since I remember an outstanding concert in the "Halles de Schaerbeek" at the end of the seventies. But I also liked Cos that I discovered at the time they were still acting under the name "Classroom". The bass player was a school friend from the Brussels University. I also had the chance to see Pazop in concert at the Janson Auditorium in Brussels but it was really weird. I remember Jacky Mauer walking around his drum kit, screaming and throwing metal beads on the toms. I must confess that I preferred his previous band, Waterloo, which should fit the proto-prog category (as well as Raepsaet-Friswa's Jengiz Khan) And I would have added "Lagger Blues Machine" to the poll.
------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: proger
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 07:10
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I know only:
Univers Zero and Present, and I liked their style very much ------------- ...live for tomorrow... |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 09:08
Thanks! I got the picture. Very interesiting. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 04:46
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Assuming I'll have enough funds next month, I'll be getting: FINNEGANS WAKE - 4th RECREATION - Recreation / Music Or Not Music COS - Viva Boma PRESENT - Triskaidekaphobie / Le Poison Qui Rend Fou or should it be No 6? and maybe X-legged Sally Slow-Up (wishful thinking Again, if I can afford it. If not, I'll have to make a poll here to ask you which 2 of these above should I buy...
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 09:53
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Check out the article I wrote here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20240&PN=1 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20240& amp;PN=1 I was hoping to have this posted with the articles from Philippe, but I guess I got tiresd waiting over three months for action after submitting it!!! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 14 2006 at 11:57
I read that earlier...wow.. is it any wonder why I love this site. Honestly had no clue about that particular area of prog. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 02:02
I enjoyed reading this very much, Sean, and I also learned many new things, understanding more about the bands themselves now and the period in which they were/are active.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 15 2006 at 03:40
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^^^^^^^^^^ Kind words from you and micky Thanks ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 20 2006 at 04:51
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Still no-one can help with Kandahar and Tideline? ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 03:57
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well it looks like I will not be able to stop this thread fromsinking in the depths of the forum trenches
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 04:18
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I think that every once in a while I will resuurect it from oblivion, or in other words: BUMP ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 04:30
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Great poll man! I have to say "Cos"! ------------- For every truth even the contrary is true... 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 08:03
bump again ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: April 21 2006 at 14:53
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UNIVERS ZERO (what a band!)
I don't know must of the bands mentioned, but I have some CD's of PRESENT and I've been listen some songs of CRO-MAGNON, AKSAK MABOUL, COS and PAZOP... I have to hear so many music yet... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 25 2006 at 10:41
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^^^^
And believe me there is quite a bit to listen to
I will try to add Kandahar in the following days, though ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 26 2006 at 05:16
Kandahar is now in also ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 11:16
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bump! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 31 2006 at 18:31
hahahah.... great bump.... since this thread last saw the light of day I've dipped my little toe in Belgian-Chamber prog with Univers Zero... and I love it!  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 06:17
Currently rewriting my reviews on UZ >> three of the first four albums have been done ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 06:28
What do you have by UZ, Micky? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 07:34
I got Heresie..... have a recommendation for another Belgian-Chamber album?... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 07:41
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By UZ - Heatwave and Uzed (ask Sean, he'll tell you all about their different stages in which they were acoustical and when they got "electric") Another album I would suggest that immediately came to my mind was ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6430 - Un Peu De L'Âme Des Bandits by Aksak Mabuol. You can also look into their other one - ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6429 - Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine. ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 07:43
thanks Assaf... I'll look into those. Have a good day... I'm out for the day. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 04:56
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UZED is definitely THE album top get ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 06:55
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Out of that list the only ones I have heard of are: Univers Zero, Present, Aksak Maboul and X - Legged Sally. My vote was cast for Aksak Maboul, I find there album - Un Peu De L'Ame Des Bandits quite spectacular. Though I was quite torn between these guys and Univers Zero. Still trying to disgest the last Present album I brought. Sean, I was wondering what information you would be able tto tell me about 'Kandahar'? I will have to get on to reading your article sometime soon, sounds very interesting. ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6430 - |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 06:59
will make it my next one... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 07 2006 at 08:44
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I am currently re-writing my reviews and Ceux Du Dehors will also get an extended review>> best representative of the Acouctic UZ (as opposed to the slightly more electrified second phase) ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 09 2006 at 05:29
BV:
KANDAHARThis group, hailing from Ghent (in Western part of Belgium), played some rather adventurous rock music and formed in 73, and were a cross of jazz-rock with Canterbury influences and sometimes a touch of Zeuhl. They released on their own private label Dwarf two albums, which were quite in the avant-garde progressive rock of the time (sounding a bit like a cross of Placebo, Pazop and Cos), before going broke.In their heydays, Kandahar was often favourably compared with Supersister, but once they folded due to lack of finances again, leader Karel Bogaert, an engineer, returned to his professional acrtivities in the Far-East, but released a few solo albums. This left Jeff Devisscher at the helm of Kandahar, and they will take time to re-group. After a few years, they managed to release an Ep, than another album, but clearly their moment had gone. None of their albums have ever been re-issued on vinyl or on Cd format, making Kandahar records very sought-after. In the late 80’s the group reformed for one album that will fail to bring back the feel of their early days brilliance. Only this album is available. My bio on this site! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 13:19
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I have just noticed Louise Avenue in the options. I have no knowledge of this group/musician (?). What can you tell me about them, Sean? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 13:27
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Didn't you hear what your mother said? going to investigate some of the other names on this great list |
Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 14:32
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^^^ What? So what about Louise Avenue? ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 15:09
sorry, it wasn't aimed at you! It was a lyric by the band I voted for. 
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 10 2006 at 15:32
thanks for that Sounds like something we should all cheak out! An interesting mix of music. I have been in shock of the wealth music that has/is coming out of belgium... I could only dream Australia was the same  |
Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: June 11 2006 at 10:50
| Present's "Le Poison qui Rend Fou" is definitely a masterpiece of the genre, not for the faint of heart. Also, the new Univers Zero Live is fantastic, and definitely worth checking out. Not as dark as the earlier stuff, which Daniel Denis now claims was somewhat of a punk-era posture, it's a bit more cheerful, but just as musically intricate and engaging, played with real passion. |