Live together or marry first?
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Topic: Live together or marry first?
Posted By: Finnforest
Subject: Live together or marry first?
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 20:38
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A few things. Let's include gays/lesbians in this by stating hypothetically that the poll assumes gay marriage is legal. I realize it is not everywhere, but let's pose the same question for gays and straights by assuming it is. I'm curious about this. If you vote cohabitation is good, would you feel the same way if your 19 year old daughter came to you and announced her intentions to move in with boyfriend? If you vote no way, is it because you feel it is morally wrong, or because you believe the studies that claim people who cohabitate first have a greater chance of breaking up after they marry. |
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 20:43
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I don't really "believe" in either one. All depends, I mean every couple is unique no way to say which is better or preferred. Really depends on how they are/what works for them. My personal opinion is living together first is fine. |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 20:47
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Living together is preferred by me. If my 19yo daughter (eek only 9 years away) said she wanted to live with her boyfriend, I'd be happy that she was in a committed relationship, assuming the guy wasn't abusive or a complete idiot. I'm not a big fan of promiscuity, though I don't think I deserve to have a say in the matter when it's a total stranger. For my own children, I will be teaching some guidelines. Of course by that time, I won't have any real say in the matter there either. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 21:07
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You do what you think's right. For me, I would never be caught dead marrying without living together. When it comes to sex and promiscuity and crap like that, I take a really liberal view. Anything between two people outside of taxes and legal stuff that can be accomplished in a marriage can be accomplished without one, if they really care. And a 19 years old daughter? OK, maybe I don't get the whole protective father stuff but she's 19! What do you want the guy to do, screw her in the back of his car, her bedroom at your house, her dorm at college, what? Because she's 19, and statistically she's had sex with at least 2 people already, if not more, so what are you worried about? Hell, living together is a big step to take, and unless the people are very religious and buy into the marriage thing hardcore, I don't see how it matters. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 21:15
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I don't feel strongly about this, but I tend to think living together first is a bad idea, based on my own experiences and those of people I know, as well as the studies you mention. It has nothing to do with religion for me. A couple of things: a) A lot of people live together first as a kind of "test drive" to see if they can stand being around each other for extended priods of time. In my view, if you need a test drive, you shouldn't be getting married. You should be sure. b) If you live together first, and then decide not to get married, the break up can be incredibly difficult, almost like a divorce. I know a couple who just bought a house together, even though they are not married. I think it is a huge mistake, since I don't see them staying together forever. c) This one goes to the root of a big problem I have with marriage in general these days. Marriage is supposed to be a special, life changing event that allows you to spend the rest of your life with the person you love. If you live together first, what really changes after the wedding? It loses some of its specialness, I think. I see too many people getting married who treat the ceremony as little more than a party, since afterwards they simply get to resume doing what they've already been doing for months or years.It cheapens the institution and allows people to take it less seriously, hence more divorces. That's my two cents. ------------- 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 21:21
| I don't believe in the concept of marriage. I feel that as practically every other aspect of Christian life has been mostly eliminated from the lives of most non-practicing Christians, there is no reason that marriage should still play such a significant role in the human life. It really ought to be naught more than strictly symbolic; there should be no legal aspect to marriage at all. |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 21:38
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Live together first. My wife and I have been married 29 years and a couple for 32. We lived together for 2 years before we got married and I know it was a big factor in strengthening our relationship and making it possible to stay together so long.
For me the "studies" are meaningless. Each case is going to be different, each couple unique, the studios can't possibly include a large enough sample to be statistically significant. Every case will be different.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 22:38
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One size doesn't fit all, but we were living together for a little while before marriage and it worked for us. More important is talking a lot and getting to know each other extremely well before making a commitment.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 22:46
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I prefer the live together route myself. I dont know...just jumping in to all that at once just seems unwise to me. So many unknowns...moreso then just marriage IMO. Esp if you haven't spent the night together before. Though like everyone has said its a case by case thing. Things work for some, others they don't.
As for my 19 year old daughter. Obviously if they aren't at school or the dinner table they are locked in the basement studying.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: September 30 2010 at 22:58
A lot of people think marriage shouldn't be special or life changing, so I think you may be missing the point of that. :P What confuses me on the other end is that there's a woman at work who's been with her boyfriend for a long time and has had 3 kids with him, but they still haven't gotten married. I don't see why you wouldn't go down and just fill out the form at least, geez. I don't know, I've never even gone on a date, but it concerns me when I see stories of people being together for 6 years and then she cheats on him or he becomes abusive and tthe other person didn't see it coming and so it's all gone. What if they had gotten married? Maybe he or she should have seen it coming, although that's not necessarily always even possible, but how can you overcome a blind spot in your judgement if you don't even know it exists?
Yeah, I am pretty sure that any study about this sort of thing is probably only going to reveal correlations, not causations. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
thellama73 wrote:Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 01:47
Living together before being married is like opening all your Christmas presents in November....
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 02:31
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Gender roles were very clearly defined for most of human history. Our roles in life have become so complex in comparison it is fairly irresponsible to not at least have some trial time playing house to evaluate domestic compatibility. Many fail to understand the difference between interdependency and codependency. A successful relationship requires interdependency, which is impossible without an understanding of which partner will take on the various roles in the household. Something as simple as hating to take out the garbage can send the relationship into a tailspin. For the love of god, don't get married until you know that at least one of you is willing to take out the garbage.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 02:58
| It depends on how easy it'll be to get a divorce, I guess. Voted for the third option. |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 03:05
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I dont think marriage should be scrapped, again whatever works for ya, but I don't see it as a sacred thing. I do think its a good, and would be nice. But if I ended up just living with someone without marriage, whatevs |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 03:15
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I vote for the second option. It's what I practised myself and I have never regretted it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 03:17
| Marriage is archaic. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 03:21
Pretty much exactly what I think. ------------- 
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 03:26
Way I see it. I would love it if I could spend the rest of my life with some I love. Whether its made "official" with marriage or we just live together, doesn't mean much to me. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 05:44
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JJ is full of wisdom as always Voted 1st |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 05:56
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Commitment and Compromise - the paper work is irrelevant.
I would be two-faced and hypocritical if I objected to my 19yo daughter shacking-up with her boyfriend - what my personal feelings are towards it could be a different matter but that would also be true if they were getting married. My daughter is 20 and is moving in with her bf - I'm actually rather pleased for them. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 06:58
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They should definitely live together first ... and if they don't marry, that's fine with me, too. Personally I think that people should get tax benefits for raising children - not for living together, marriage or not.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:03
But they are, in most countries that I know. Isn't this happening in Germany too? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:22
^^ nah, tax the breaders, don't reward them  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:26
 Marriage first. No surprise from me. But I believe in divorce even less than I do cohabitation before marriage. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Mr ProgFreak
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:26
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^ Well, in countries which are suffering from overpopulation that might be the solution. @harmonium.ro: Yes, but married couples get tax benefits on top of the benefits for the children. IMO it would be better to abolish the tax benefits for married couples and instead focus on the raising children part - preferably also including some form of training courses for parenting which the parents have to participate in in order to receive the benefits. ------------- https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike" rel="nofollow - https://tagyourmusic.org/users/Mike |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:40
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:41
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:41
I think that marriage is encouraged this way exactly because it's traditionally considered a fundamental step towards raising a family; I don't think there are states encouraging marriage just for itself. I agree that this kind of discrimination probably relies on the older perception that marriage is the way to raise a family and people who don't marry are probably not interested in family life, which is not true anymore. The way France addapted to the new times was to "legalize" non-marriage; you can register a concubinaje and you get the same legal status to that of a marriage (including the benefits). It is only a half-measure, but it does work well; it, combined with the benefits offered for having children, makes France have the second highest birth rate in the EU (why does Germany have the lowest birth rate in the EU?  ) |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 07:58
There must something in the water in Ireland, though, and I can't figure out what it is 
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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 08:05
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Personally, I think marriage is rather silly. However, I do understand why people marry. Still, I think it's fine if a couple lives together before they marry. I really see nothing wrong with it.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 08:11
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 08:17
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60%–95%? Wow
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 08:19
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Just my own experience:
My wife and I lived together for 3 years and already had a child when we got married (our second was on the way). We had personally committed to each other for the long haul long before the first pregnancy.
We saw our marriage as a announcement to society of the pledge we'd already made. Yes, a celebration of our relationship in front of our family and friends. We were formalizing things.
And our two incomes kick us into a much higher tax bracket. Not sure there's much benefit. But I haven't run the numbers side by side for a few years, because it's not an option anymore.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 08:45
Irish Spring?  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 09:00
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I also think it is a personal decision. There is one practical issue that favors not marrying though, especially in the US with the health care thing. Here, if an unlucky mix of major illness and loss of insurance hits one partner, the couple as a unit could be buried in the massive bills, bankruptcy, and ruination of the credit of both. An unmarried couple with similar problem would only see one of the two in these straights, the other one's credit would not be ruined and thus the healthy one would be able to provide for both of them. When it comes to this scenario, which is rare but does happen, it seems unmarrieds are almost safer from the catastrophe. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 09:17
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My missus & I lived together for a short while before getting married, and I've never regretted a moment, but it really is up to individuals. One size doesn't fit everybody.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:19
Maybe a little short-sighted... 
As far as an emotional attachment/relationship goes, yes, you can be pretty sure early on - face it, everyone's on their best behaviour when (to use an archaic term) dating, so everything will be hunky dory whenever you see each other. What you don't get when dating is the real personality of a person, when they get mood swings, what they're really like 1st thing in the morning, or when they get in from a crappy day at work... Are they lazy? Are they untidy? Are they generally inconsiderate? I guess what I'm trying to say is when you date, you see people at their best, when you live together you see them at their worst - if you can cope with both & still say you love your partner, then go for it 
My wife & I have been together 22 years, lived together for 20 of those & next week sees our 17th wedding anniversary, so seems to have worked for us 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:35
So, yeah, my wife and I had a "test drive" for a couple of years before marrying, but it was the only one we had and we didn't have alternative models lined-up for test drives should there have been any defects in build-quality or handling - sure prior to meeting each other we had take other's for a spin around the block, looked under the hood, checked the lubrication and kicked the spare tyre but beyond that no test drives were necessary. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:42
Sounds like a bad 80's song. or 500. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:43
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:46
That's why you should never get a life partner from eBay; always make sure you have a full service history & check to see if they've been the subject of a previous write off. -------------
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:47
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Ooh ooh she's a killer machine, she's got everything. Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway starararararar. Oh wait that was before 1980.  ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:54
When I'm holding your grease gun, it's like a disease, son. Also before 1980 -------------
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 10:59
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I can't vote because its so individualized issue. I am hispanic, latin american family 100%....99% of the family is Catholic.....Its how I grew up, raised. I did feel that living together was a sin, I believe in marriage 100%. It was very important to me to find a Catholic girl who shared my beliefs. Many, many challenging circumstances came into my life when I was in college. My wife and I ended up living together for about 2yrs before getting married. My mother and father were not happy.
But I met my wife in high school in 11th grade. She is Catholic...shared my beliefs.
So I can't say if my daughter wanted to live in with her BF I would not let it happen or be upset...since I did it.
My wife and I had a Catholic wedding, we both wore white and discussed all this with the priest, who was a family friend...he was fine with it.
We have been married for 25yrs....I don't regret one bit of it.
And BTW...my daughter is 22 and lives with her BF....and we are fine with it. As long as she continues to go to school. She is very smart and knows that a kid would be a horrible thing for her at this stage of her life.
So for that I can't vote, not right now......I will say a part of me would have liked the marriage before living together scenario. Marriage IS archaic..but I believe in marriage and I think it has fallen from its perch too far. It does not mean today what it meant 30yrs ago.......and that's a shame. -------------   
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 11:00
And she purrs like a kitten till the tail pipes roar And if that ain't enough to make you flip your lid There's one more thing I got the pink slip daddy Also before 1980 ------------- What? |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 11:22
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Culturally, I'm kind of in-between in here... My culture usually favor marriage over living together first... But I always had a very european/western/american liberty and view of things at home, with little link to religion, so I don't really feel that pressure. In the end, whatever solution is best for the couple should be the one implemented. I think it depends on the couple and the circumstances. I'll probably live together first but just because she wants to get out of her parents' home... (she's 31, normal in my culture). Probably we'll get married immediately. And yes, marriage is more than a document. ------------- 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 12:05
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Marry whenever you like but live apart and just visit on the weekends. Much more fun and something to look forward to.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 12:13
To each their own. I was married for 23 years before my wife passed away. As for the concept, personally I believe it is outdated and unnecessary, besides I am an old hippie and think we as a species need to return to spreading the love a bit more. I would not dare say this if I was still married of course and had the risk of my dear wife reading over my shoulder   ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 13:16
| any of the two first options is ok with me - I don't agree with the last option though... |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 13:37
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Neither mariage, nor living together. Male or female, everyone should stay at home and watching TV alone. And feeling miserable for the long week-end. Well, in fact, this is what I had to go through for a long time now, and I don't see why anyone should be happy kissing, having sex, sharing meals and dates, while I'm sad and alone !!!! |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 16:07
Wait a minute. I'm not big supporter of G/L marriages (I respect them though), but they're legal in my country. It's not legal in USA ? Well, if there are religious weddings, then it is catholic one (the most prevalent religion here), but I suppose that G/L doesn't take these, but rather take the ones at town halls. I don't really know, just theory. Anyway Jim, moral differs as countries society and values, traditions differ. Marriage is not important here that much, the important thing is to be happy with the one you're with. If you're not happy, ending the relationship is way more easier. However, this has bad side too, people sometimes don't try hard enough to cure their relationship, as they would in marriage. There is bad side of marriage as well. People sometimes grow confident enough that the other one won't leave him/her, so they do stuff they wouldn't dare to do in normal relationship, where they're not "confined" to each other. Each moon has its dark side. I'm supported of non-marrying though. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 16:17
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 16:19
But there's always your brother, right? |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 16:37
| Interesting poll! Personally, I would tend to be in favour of option #1, though I am well aware that living together before marriage is not a magic recipe for a solid union. In my particular case, though, we were not really given the choice, since we had to get married for immigration purposes. It would have been the same had Micky decided to move to Italy, even if other countries allow people to immigrate even without being married. Anyway, I am not against marriage per se, and I recognize that it has its benefits - though I don't believe that a piece of paper makes a difference as regards the solidity of a couple. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 16:52
The fact that you're talking about my brother right after I'm complaining about the lack of female presence in my life... Dude, that's just plain wrong on SO many levels!  |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 17:04
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Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 17:13
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Marriage is an anachronistic element in our society so I voted the third.
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 19:35
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the last option -------------  Time always wins. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 19:59
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Marriage means absolutely nothing to me. So, why would I speak in its favor. You know my answer.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 02 2010 at 06:46
And never have sex because abstinence makes the heart grow fonder. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: October 02 2010 at 09:09
As far as I'm concerned, any guy in my life is more likely to get laid if I don't have to pick up his dirty underwear or cook for him every damn night... |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 02 2010 at 16:31
But to be realistic, that's like bumping his chances from 1% to 3%. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: June
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 20:16
Can I assume you're making a generalisation about women here? Actually, based on my own long-distance relationship, to be honest, having to cook for him a few nights in a row would be a nice change of pace. I voted for the last option, by the way, but if we ever decide to go through with this thing, it's likely I'll be in the same kind of situation as Mickey and Raff, which is kind of ironic. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 20:48
I wasn't trying to. Only supposing the mere act of not leaving dirty underwear everywhere wouldn't get the guy to 100% assured Laidsville. I dunno I guess my wise cracking was off that day. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 21:27
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June, I live at home and I still put my dirty underwear in the hamper by myself, will you sleep with me? ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 21:39
billy joel is awesome you freaking prog snobs |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 21:41
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on topic: we lived together before getting married, seemed to work out alright. not much more I can say besides that. |
Posted By: leifthewarrior
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 21:42
| Considering modern society, I think it's best for people to get to know their partner in that way before tying the legal knot! |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 21:55
Maybe 70s Billy Joel... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaAX8x2qOxM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaAX8x2qOxM (Explicit language warning, blah blah blah) |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 00:08
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I'm not religious, therefor marriage means absolutely nothing to me...it's basically like...well we're in a relationship. If we get married we'll be in a relationship and a church says its okay..... ------------- Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell? I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 02:18
Kind of the same humor, very good.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 07:27
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Hmmm, I take care of my own laundry, my wife does most of the cooking, and our love life is wonderful.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 07:42
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Posted By: omri
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 13:07
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I think this thread should stay open in the main page until June will answer Henryplainview here in public !
To the topic. My own experience is living with the girl a year and a half before marriage (and it was quite hard to her family cause of religious feelings they had) and after 19 years of marriage (and 2 kids) we divorced.
I think this period of living together was important to us to realise we want to live our life together but the thing is that in such a long period things changes and what was good when you were 25 years old is not what matters when you are 40 years old.
I am today in a relationsheep which will not come to marriage since both of us feel it is irrelevant for us but as many others here said it is something individual and I do not claim that what's fine with me suits any other so I did not vote. Oh, I don't have a daughter so this may be unfair but she got to have sex someday and the age of 19 sounds O.K. to me.
I liked Cp's post. Laughed a lot. However, I'm sure if you realy wanted it, you would have find it (you see, even I managed to find a girl that is not only smart, beautiful and kind but also thinks I'm quite alright myself , god knows why). ------------- omri |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 14:40
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^ I think you make the case there that should not live together after marriage.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 15:35
Well this weekend I did about 4 loads of laundry, ironed a bunch of my dress shirts....but she cooked. She's a Cajun Coon Ass...so her food is much better than mine.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 15:47
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Marriage means taking a vow, so you should not rush into it. Anyway, Jean and I had to wait for almost seven years before we could marry because it had not been legal before that. Ah well, the special problems of same-sex relationships. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 15:55
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Posted By: June
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:01
The pattern being sharing chores? Sounds good to me. And no, Henry, I will not sleep with you, my heart belongs to MrFirmTush and you're too young for me. But thanks for offering (if that's what you were doing ). I was merely suggesting that it's easier to keep the magic alive in a relationship if you don't have to deal with the boring day-to-day annoyances. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:08
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Oooohhhhh. Rejected on a public forum. That should make Henners even more unhappier than usual. ------------- 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:09
My wife and I have boring daily sex (actually nightly).....so that way when we have amazing sex we can say...."Hey that was better than the other night" ........ It keeps our expectations in check...
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:18
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It must be the listening to Rush and the Scorpions. -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:45
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My wife and I are taking "a trip to the fair" tonight. And none of you know what that means (and would never be able to guess). ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:50
It means you're bragging on PA? |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:51
I bet it means you're actually going to a fair and are just trying to pretend to be cooler than you are. -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:56
Too young!? But that makes me vigorous and chiseled. You can mold me with your experienced hands.
That must get exhausting.
Oh man if this is actually a euphemism my mind is overflowing. Will there be corn dogs and funnel cake? Maybe some cotton candy if you're really kinky? ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
). I was merely suggesting that it's easier to keep the magic alive in a relationship if you don't have to deal with the boring day-to-day annoyances.Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 16:56
That's what I was going with |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 17:00
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I figured that Rob and his wife were shooting water pistols at the horse races to see who wins the prize. If Rob wins, they have sex, if his wife wins, she has a headache and they go to sleep. -------------
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 17:09
"Shooting water pistols at the horse races" sounds like yet another, even more disturbing euphemism. -------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 17:09
Actually, it was the "Whack-a-mole" that gave us our initial inspiration. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 17:41
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We have a 16 day long fair here.....matter of fact its supposedly the 8th largest one in the country. So there are many games and foods available for us to get our rocks off on......for 16 days.
And Henry.....i go to the gym.......everyday. -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 17:49
By the way, how did Annie Haslam take a trip to the fair and nobody was there? Wouldn't she have been there? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 19:19
I'm thinking LARPing. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 19:20
Yet oh so intriguing... |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 19:59
Bravo!!! ------------- |
Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 05 2010 at 21:22
Sicko ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 07:32
"Sorry kid, we're all out of cotton candy. How about a Q-tip?" Conceptionland ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 12:01
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Marriage needs to be phased out completely in favor of more casual sex ------------- Time always wins. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 12:09
That sounds exactly like what one of my friends would say
He LOATHES monogamy. Calls it a complete invention and something we were trained to do by society, and this is why we are so screwed up, neurotic, and/or chemically dependent.
His opinion is the in the minority even amongst his friends.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: October 06 2010 at 12:13
Maybe sex is not everything that there is behind a marriage... -------------
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