Battle of the Prog Bands R3D1: Genesis vs. Yes
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Topic: Battle of the Prog Bands R3D1: Genesis vs. Yes
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Subject: Battle of the Prog Bands R3D1: Genesis vs. Yes
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:22
Welcome to Round 3 Division 1 of Battle of the Prog Bands! This time, our two contenders are Genesis and Yes. Vote for your favorite, and the band with the most votes will move onto Round 4. Please do not vote unless you have listened to at least one album by both bands. (But I'm sure that won't apply to anyone here. )
Here is the tournament thus far:
 Schedule for Upcoming Matches
Round 3 Division 2 - September 19
Round 3 Division 3 - September 22
Round 3 Division 4 - Septemeber 26
Round 3 Division 5 - September 30
While my interest in the band has slightly waned over the months, I'll still give my vote to Genesis without hesitation. They have made some of the most pleasant to listen to music in the entire Rock genre.
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:22
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YES!
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:26
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it's only for the sake of Gabriel era Genesis
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:34
| Yes |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:48
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Ohhh its on!! This round may decide the tourney.
Anyways, I choose Genesis. |
Posted By: apps79
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:50
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Now,this is a battle!Genesis for me. ------------- When the power of love overcomes the love of power,the world will know peace... listen to www.justincaseradio.com , the first ever Greek Progressive Rock radio |
Posted By: chemebien
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:50
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YES!
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:55
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Yes
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Posted By: silcir
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 15:59
| Genesis. |
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:00
This one is interesting. Yes it is. |
Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:02
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Gotta go with my favorite band here....Genesis
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Posted By: Thin_Man
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:03
Genesis
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:04
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Genesis by 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999 country miles. Oh yeah, and Yes is great too!   ------------- 
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:07
| Yes for me |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:12
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I could be wrong here, but from what I recall it seems to usually work out that in a Yes vs Genesis poll, Genesis prevails, while if you compare any specific albums (of comparable ratings) or any specific songs (of comparable importance), Yes prevails.
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:14
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Liquid Len with his smashed bottle men...... Its Genesis for me ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:24
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Genesis for me ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:25
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Epignosis wrote:Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:27
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My two favorite Symph Prog albums, and while I love Genesis a lot, they came later and delved through their discography myself. While Yes, I've been listening to them since I was a kid, my dad used to play them a lot, specially The Yes Album and Fragile. Yes > From Genesis to RevelationTime and a Word < Trespass (the first Genesis album I loved, and the one I still love most)
The Yes Album > Nursery Cryme (but just because of nostalgia reasons)
Fragile < Foxtrot (the nostalgia almost beats Foxtrot, hehe)
Close to the Edge < Selling England by the Pound (never been much of a CttE fan)
Tales from Topographic Oceans = The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (The Lamb was the only Genesis album my dad had, both equally awesome and nostalgic for me)
Relayer > Trick of the Tail
Going for the One < Wind & Wuthering
Tormato < And Then There Were Three
Drama = Duke (both from 1980, both different, both great in their own way)
So yeah, Genesis beats Yes for me in chronoligcal order... that's why it's a toughie.. but still went for Yes..
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:27
That's usually true. I prefer the classic Genesis albums to the classic Yes albums, and both of their "sell-out" years are equally bad IMO. Still, in a Supper's Ready vs. CTTE poll, Supper's Ready usually wins (I think). -------------
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:29
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Let's see, I would normally say Genesis right away but Epignosis gave me an idea. So let's compare albums: Early Yes stuff = Genesis to Revelation Yes Album >> Trespass Fragile = Nursery Crime Close to The Edge < Foxtrot Tales << Selling England Relayer < Lamb Going For the One >> Trick of the Tail Tormato = Wuthering Heights Drama > And Then Were Three 90125 > [any Genesis pop album] That means it's Yes! By a hair, but still. Dammit, I hate it when Epignosis is right   |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:31
So does everybody else around here. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:37
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And so it begins . . . Obviously not an easy choice by any measure, but I've gone with Genesis. Oddly enough of all the big boys of classic prog it took me the longest to get around to fully appreciating them. Yes have been a steady force in my life, but from the other shop I only had Trick of the Tail for the longest time, and though I loved that album, I somehow never got around to buying another one for a decade or more. Now they've climbed their way to the tippytop of fave groups. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:38
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This is gonna be a very tough poll...no vote for me for the moment I have to think about it for a while...
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Posted By: Johnnytuba
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:40
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I will cast the 20th, and tying vote, for Yes. ------------- "The things that we're concealing, will never let us grow. Time will do its healing, you've got to let it go. |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:44
| Say yes to Yes, but why the sun? |
Posted By: Deleuze
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:45
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Hard choice...this one and magma vs zappa will destroy my mind...
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 16:48
THis is just not a fair comparison in my mind. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:00
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Cannot someone vote for me? This is so painful... Well then
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And if I have to choose between Supper's Ready and CTTE I'll vote for CTTE...probably. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:07
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Well since we're doing this, I might as well follow along. Yes > From Genesis to Revelation Time and a Word < Trespass
The Yes Album = Nursery Cryme
Fragile < Foxtrot
Close to the Edge < Selling England by the Pound
Tales from Topographic Oceans < The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Relayer = Trick of the Tail
Going for the One < Wind & Wuthering
Tormato < And Then There Were Three
Drama = Duke The choice is obvious for me. All of the Yes albums (minus a few) are in the 4-5 star range, but most of the Genesis albums are a solid 5 star IMO. -------------
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:09
I'm afraid I don't follow....  Unless you were a member of Yes, that first comment makes no sense.-------------
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:12
I'm pretty sure the Lady means can someone make her decision for her so she doesn't have to cast such a painful vote. I'd hope, even with all the egos involved, no one member of Yes would say "I am Yes." ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:16
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Oh dear Lord... this poll is going to be bloody... I've gotta go with Yes myself, for three reasons:
1. Yes recorded "Close to the Edge."
2. Rick Wakeman and Chris Squire are my favorite keyboardist and bassist, respectively. 3. Yes recorded "Close to the Edge."
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:16
Let me have a go at this. Yes ? From Genesis to Revelation(don't have Genesis debut but I really like Yes's debut) Time and a Word = Trespass
The Yes Album > Nursery Cryme
Fragile < Foxtrot
Close to the Edge = Selling England by the Pound
Tales from Topographic Oceans > The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Relayer > Trick of the Tail
Going for the One = Wind & Wuthering
Tormato > And Then There Were Three
Drama > Duke90125, Big Generator, Talk > Genesis's pop albums also The Ladder > ??? Magnification > ??? Not to mention some stellar live albums and DVDs. Definite win for Yes, especially Genesis never returned to the magic. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:22
| I will have to say no to Yes! |
Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:30
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This might get interesting, but.... Genesis! I never could get passed Jon's voice, even though I love Yes's music. I also prefer Genesis's music and Gabriel's lyrics. ------------- Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ... |
Posted By: Zombywoof
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:33
The best post I've seen in ages...------------- Continue the prog discussion here: http://zombyprog.proboards.com/index.cgi ... |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:44
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Unless you're some sort of ultra-snob, you will agree that these are two of the greatest and most fundamental progressive bands of all time. Choosing between the two is an extraordinary task... but Yes takes it.
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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 17:59
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Oh well, this is really tough one! I love Yes but I love Genesis more (Gabriel's Genesis to be exact). So, my vote goes to Genesis. But both these bands are on my top, so it's pity :-(
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 18:20
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head explodes, but recently I have listend to Genesis over and over again, and I love thier sound they know how to compose great tunes both prog and pop, while Yes is also a magical band, and have moments which gives tears to my eyes, but I think Genesis is even more emotion evoking then Yes,
and Genesis is more mysterious and dark, greater specters between dark and light, happy and moody, songs like Seven Stones which are just swiming in melodie and delicious sounds and great instrumentation, also they play more deliceous, more like a smooth jazz like band or a ready oiled clockwork
ahh cant wote since I lack some of their discography -------------  
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 18:27
That is what I meant. And it is Genesis for me by the number above. |
Posted By: JonteJH
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 18:37
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No! i mean Yes -------------  
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Posted By: chefrobb
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 19:49
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Oh lordy lordy lordy....this takes me back to my high school days in the 70's. This was the question that was always brought up....Yes or Genesis....many a good conversation ensued! ------------- chefrobb |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 20:15
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I chose a different way to justify myself. I made a list of my top 10 Genesis and Yes albums: 1. Close to the edge 2. Foxtrot 3. The Lamb... 4. Selling England... 5. Fragile 6. The Yes Album 7. Nursery Cryme 8. Relayer 9. Magnification 10. Wind and Wuthering Now I gave the first 10 points, the second 9 etc. Then I summed up the values for Genesis and Yes. Result: Genesis: 29 Yes: 26 I am relieved, that I voted correctly Genesis . I already started to doubt it. |
Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 22:17
| i voted genesis but, now i kinda think i should have voted for yes...O well |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 22:29
| Genesis. Always. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 22:39
Yes you should have... I do have to say I easily like Yes more than Genesis, though I like both bands a lot. |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 22:41
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Yes easily for me
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Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 23:23
Yes is winning by three votes. Quick, close the poll!  ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 00:45
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Genesis Genesis Genesis Genesis Genesis Genesis Genesis Genesis Genesis Gen. Esis. Genesis. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 01:03
| Genesis. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 01:07
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I love them both, but f I had to choose which band has moved me most over the years, it'd have to be (classic) Genesis.
For my tastes, Yes made 3 truly great albums I can't live without -- but Genesis made 7. ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 01:23
Someone is listening to the words
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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 01:28
| yes |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 01:34
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Used to be Genesis, now is Yes. ------------- 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 01:39
and on that note....  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 01:45
| I must say Genesis. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 02:39
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Yes has made the best prog album ever: Close to the Edge, but when I look further than that I have to vote for Genesis. ------------- 
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Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 05:34
| Genesis. |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 06:06
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And yet another toughie. While I truely believe that Genesis's decline after Gabriel left should preclude them from winning, it's still hard to dismiss them. Yes has had it's disappointing era's and albums as well but not to the extent of Genesis post 1974. Still, I think I prefer the overall 'sound' of Genesis. GENESIS. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 06:51
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Hapy to discover that I didn't vote yet. YES and 61 to 60 . ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Gillywibble
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 07:23
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Have to vote for Genesis. Both fantastic but early Genesis just wins it for me. ------------- There is in fact more earth than sea. http://www.last.fm/user/Gillywibble |
Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 07:59
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Genesis, Yes and King Crimson are the best bands of Prog Rock imo. Voting Yes because they are behind Genesis with two votes. ------------- 
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 08:01
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I'll have a go too
.Yes > From Genesis to Revelation (neither is great  )Time and a Word < Trespass
The Yes Album > Nursery Cryme
Fragile = Foxtrot
Close to the Edge < Selling England by the Pound (Genesis' best)
Tales from Topographic Oceans > The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (both brilliant)
Relayer < Trick of the Tail
Going for the One > Wind & Wuthering (both great, but this is Yes' best album
 )Tormato < And Then There Were Three
Drama > Duke
I won't bother comparing individual albums in the pop era, though I easily prefer Genesis in that era. Overall my choice is definitely Yes. I just feel there's much more emotion and intensity in their music, and that decides it for me.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 08:19
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GENESIS
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YES
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ERROR
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CANNOT VOTE ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: kole
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 08:24
| Genesis for me. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 10:07
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Wow, this is going to be a squeaker. My vote goes to Yes.
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Posted By: Magic Mountain
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 10:16
| Obviously these are two of the greatest symphonic prog bands ever. I have the complete discographies of both bands. Since there is a gun to my head, I chose Yes. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:00
Blimey, a really tight one Yes were my introduction to prog. Genesis followed very shortly behind. Both are exceptional bands. Oh God, this is difficult Okay, I'll look at the number of stinkers in the catalogue. For Genesis, the second side of Genesis was appalling. That's about it, really. For Yes, there was Open Your Eyes, Drama (sorry), and a lot of Union to shy away from. On that basis, Genesis just about gets my vote. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:26
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My, both are superb bands when at their peak. But for overall contributions and staying power I go with Yes. In various incarnations they've put out decent ( and sometimes stellar ) albums in the 70's, 80's, 90's ,and 00's. There's even the possibility of more to come ! ------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:30
That's a rather odd way to decide. After all, Yes has 18 studio albums while Genesis only has 15. Ah well, too late to convince you to change your mind now! ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 11:47
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Genesis for The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 12:25
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This was an easy vote for me as Genesis has long been my favorite bands while Yes is one of those bands that you'd think I'd like, but time after time, they do little for me. I recently found a special remastered edition of "Close to the Edge" at a used CD shop for five bucks. I thought, why not, I'll give it one more shot. I had listened to my Dad's original pressing many times in an attempt to 'get it' but failed. So, I bought the remaster and listened to it with an open mind. The next day I gave it to my Dad who was more than pleased to get the new version. Furthermore, Genesis has at least three of my top ten favorite albums, possibly four. "A Trick of the Tail" has been my favorite album for years. "Selling England," and "The Lamb" are both in my top ten and a recent surge by "Wind and Wuthering" has it pushing against the top ten. As I said, my vote easily goes to Genesis. ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:13
| Yes cuz of poppy Genesis era |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:29
| As long as it is not Philesis era Genesis it gets my vote. |
Posted By: TrevRockOne
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:30
| To risk sounding like a sore whiney fanboy: does anyone else think that Genesis being the only band to appear in the topic title on the homepage may have skewed the results in their favor a bit. Although I love both bands, Yes is transcendent. |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:41
Absolutely spot on, unfortunately.
Some people have issues with the personalities of Yessers, or hate Jon Anderson's voice (I've heard "emotionless" used so often, and I really don't understand that accusation).
Some people also use quality of melodies as an excuse for Genesis having worse musicians and less complex music, at the same time putting Yes in the "pretentious" category with ELP and the rest, just because they win in every field.
I'm not saying people who prefer Genesis are lying! Just that they will win because of personal reasons. Maybe they seem like a better band, but the MUSIC is usually inferior, as Epignosis pointed out.
Objectively, Yes have the edge (and Genesis are not even close to the edge....)
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:47
So I should decide on other than personal reasons?
Genesis (Or any other band) win because more people prefer their music ? ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:52
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I think Genesis has a better lineup album by album. Yes has this one gigantic behemoth of an album which most forums/polls conclude is missing something, it feels incomplete. I just can't vote on the strength of one album and really one song. Anyhow I like both bands very much...but I always find myself listening and enjoying Genesis much more....I think I always will.
Genesis -------------   
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:54
By no means was I advocating that people shouldn't vote in a personal way (I did!).
I was just expanding on the speculation that perhaps if there was some way of mesuring attributes such as virtuosity, quality and strength of harmony etc etc, Yes would win by being a more progressive band.
Genesis WILL win because of personal reasons, and that's okay, but as I said, objectively, Yes have the edge.
And yes, more people (on this site) prefer Genesis, and numbers are the only ingredient for the outcome of a poll.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 14:57
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I'm not sure how you can prove that "objectively" YES are better than GENESIS. I prefer GENESIS melancholic sound and vocals much more,but that's just my taste in music. I also think YES were brilliant by the way. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 15:00
There is no way of measuring these atributes as you say. So I could quite easily doctor your post ^ ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 15:07
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You can't prove it, no.
But maybe some people here would agree that, for example, Mozart was objectively better than say, Hannah Montana, even if that's also unprovable. It's the kind of "better" that even Montana fanatics would recognise: a higher musicality, more talent both at writing and performing, a better understanding of assonance and dissonance...... and loads of other things which remain unmeasurable.
And I'm saying the same thing with Yes and Genesis (although obviously they are much closer together which is why a debate is forming here!).
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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 15:23
I would say if it was Mozart's intention to make sing along pop music for young kids to enjoy then he failed miserably and Hannah would be much better than Mozart. They are not comparable.
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 15:29
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I wasn't comparing their intentions, rather their actual output, and in a musical sense, regardless of genre. But in any case, Yes and Genesis are in the same genre, sub-genre, and are two of the most comparable bands in existence.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 15:38
You don't know Hannah Montana fans then! ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 15:40
I know. I was saying you can't compare the two. In terms of ouput, musical sense whatever.
You can compare Genesis and Yes of course but I don't think it can be in any way objective. They are both full of great musicians and it is this ability that gives them the freedom of expression to produce great records - I just prefer Genesis. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 16:14
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Maybe I'm being absolutist.
If you strip down the intentions, the relations, the marketing, the production, the surrounding atmosphere and everything else before and after music, then what you are left with, can be compared objectively. Except it is impossible to remove these factors, the personal element, and furthermore impossible to measure quality without including anything remotely describable as a viewpoint. So to even attempt it is apparently futile (for now), but I hope my theory has been understood.
Music is a science(?) And science involves only logic. With the human element removed, I still think Yes would have more success in music, but they wouldn't even be a band then. Just a more complicated idea. Anyway I'm being overly philisophical and getting nowhere.
One day music will be a factual, One day...! It will lose all that it's worth but at least then I'l be right.........
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 16:18
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Yes Can do it! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 16:18
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Two more yes for a tie. Come on... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 16:28
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Yesssss
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 16:30
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Genesis has made some of my favorite songs, but Yes is the pinnacle of progressive rock, IMO. ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 17:31
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Well, with my vote for Yes it's a tie again
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Posted By: Dondaļ
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 17:32
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EXECO!!
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Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 17:35
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who's gonna break the equality?
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 17:39
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Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 17:44
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one of them most probably will win the tourney
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Posted By: Deleuze
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 17:52
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this is kinda intense, didn't vote...too hard for me
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 19:09
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I love them both.
But Genesis will always be my favorite
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: September 15 2010 at 19:16
| Genesis. Which I never would have voted for a couple of years ago. |