The "Top Four" Hogarth-era Marillion albums
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Topic: The "Top Four" Hogarth-era Marillion albums
Posted By: Progatron
Subject: The "Top Four" Hogarth-era Marillion albums
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 17:01
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Fish-only snobs, please keep your comments to yourselves. This is for those of us who love the band, regardless of the singer. These are the four highest-rated Hogarth-era Marillion platters. I agree with three of them.  Afraid Of Sunlight is great, but has never done it for me as a full-album listen the way the other three do. I personally would probably swap in Holidays or Happiness Is...Either way, I like every Marillion album from their debut to Less=more. But from these four, I'd like to see your choices. (I don't recall seeing this one done any time recently, so apologies if anyone's sick of seeing it.) My vote goes to Brave, which is my favourite Marillion album of all. ------------- Genesis/Yes/Rush/Marillion/VDGG&PH/The Flower Kings/Zappa/Änglagård/Wobbler/PFM/Banco/Le Orme/Jethro Tull/Spock's Beard/Transatlantic/Ayreon/Beardfish/IQ/Dream Theater/Opeth/P.Tree/Arena/Camel/Kaipa! |
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Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 17:07
| It's Brave for me. One of my favorite's and just a really well done concept album. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 17:11
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Season's End comes in close second to Brave. I can't stand Afraid of Sunlight - after that one I didn't buy a single new Marillion album for 10 years...
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 17:13
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Afraid of Sunlight is the album that made me quit with Marillion. Because of it I don't know Marbles. The remaining two are different and both have good things. "Living with the big lie" is a great song, but I prefer Seasons End as a whole. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 17:13
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For me, its: Afraid of Sunlight > Seasons End > Marbles > Brave |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:50
| Brave > Seasons End > Afriad of Sunlight > Marbles |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 18:55
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Afraid, Brave, Marbles, and then Seasons for me.
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 19:05
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I'm sorry Brave... Gotta be Marbles.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 20:10
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Afraid of Sunlight for me, a sublime album I never get tired of listening to. All very good albums, but I find Brave overrated:) Thanks Progatron for the "Fish-only snobs" comment!!! It's about time Hogarth is recognized by this site as the far superior singer!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 20:41
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From the list I only have Brave and Marbles... Brave is a 5-star album IMO, but Marbles still hasn't caught on. I won't vote, though, since I haven't heard the other two options.
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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 01:47
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Brave for me (I listened to it just yesterday and it's really great one), but Marbles are close and the two others are also very good. Hard choice but it has to be done :-) ------------- 
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Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 02:08
Not my favourites by Marillion (yes, I'm rather Fish-only snob ), but I'll go with Seasons End and Brave.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 02:51
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Brave! One of my overall favourite Marillion-albums.
Holidays in Eden, not mentioned here, also has some strong moments. ------------- 
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 04:16
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All four VERY VERY close together, but if I were forced to choose it would be: Marbles > Afraid of sunlight > Brave > Seasons End ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Progfan1958
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 06:08
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Yes, all four are certainly good. I vote Marbles as my favourite, however overall I think Brave is the best work the band have done, but it falls down a bit sonically. ------------- Progfan1958 "Peace to you all" "La paix est avec vous" "Pax vobiscum" "Al salaam a'alaykum" "Vrede zij met u allen" "Shalom aleichem" |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 08:33
finally I see some love for Holidays in Eden.
 I can't choose from the list really; you've put there the 4 most appreciated and respected Hogarth era albums.
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someone_else wrote:Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 08:57
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Seasons End is by far my favourite Marillion album regardless of era. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 09:58
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Hard poll, as I have always said that I can barely tear apart Brave & Marbles. both of these albums are, IMHO, incredible pieces of genius written by a great band at the peak of their powers. They are both very strong 5 star by PA ratings for me, but if I really had to choose, it would be Marbles, although I'd be hard pressed to say why to be honest. Probably because of the sheer strength & beauty of the bookends, Invisible Man & Neverland. Afraid of Sunlight & Seasons End are also incredibly strong albums, and I would also refer fans or potential fans to classics such as This Strange Engine, which is an incredibly strong album on their indy label debut, and Radiation, which for some strange reason passes a lot of people by. The last "proper" studio album, Happiness is the Road also contains some extremely strong moments, especially the modern classic Real Tears For Sale. We also, BTW, have a Marillion Round Table on Prog Bands, Artists, and Genres Appreciation. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Progatron
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 15:22
I gave it some love in my initial post.  I can do without the title track and "No One Can" but otherwise that is a classic Marillion album, IMO. If you do not have the Somewhere In London dvd, it is a must-have, and begins with a stunning version of "Splintering Heart". @lazland: I'll check out that "Marillion Round Table" discussion, thanks!  ------------- Genesis/Yes/Rush/Marillion/VDGG&PH/The Flower Kings/Zappa/Änglagård/Wobbler/PFM/Banco/Le Orme/Jethro Tull/Spock's Beard/Transatlantic/Ayreon/Beardfish/IQ/Dream Theater/Opeth/P.Tree/Arena/Camel/Kaipa! |
Posted By: ferush
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 18:53
| Brave, but Marbles is near of first place. |
Posted By: DeKay
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 14:12
| Brave |
Posted By: izzy_462000
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 10:51
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FROM ONE TO FOUR: MARBLES BRAVE AFRAID TO SUNLIGHT SEASON'S END ------------- THIS TRAIN IS MY LIFE 'MARILLION RULES' |
Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 13:18
| Brave. Love it. Haunting and powerful. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 15:44
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Marbles, but only for the two disc version (I feel sorry for the people who havnt heard Ocean Cloud). ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 09:36
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Marbles! one of the most intense stuff i have ever heard. second place would be Anoraknophobia but it isnt in the list ------------- |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: October 30 2010 at 10:47
Not in this list, but I say it anyway: Anoraknophobia !!! ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: UncleBadTouch
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 01:17
| my personal favorite is marbles, followed closely by brave. Then AoS and then Holidays in Eden! didn't really did Seasons End |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 03:16
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A revived old poll that I guess I missed first time around.... Marbles is Marillion's finest moment, a stunning double album that deserves all the platitudes it gets. My vote goes here. AOS is second best, another stellar album. Out of This World is my second favourite Marillion song (after Ocean Cloud). Brave gets third, a fine album which is tainted by poor production, which is a shame. Season's End is frankly miles behind in fourth. |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 04:23
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Invisible Man
Fantastic Place Neverland Ocean Cloud You're gone Dont Hurt yourself Has to be Marbles over Seasons End. |
Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 06:46
| Seasons end |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 14:54
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Marbles ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 01:06
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Fairly sure I voted for Seasons End although I didn't leave a comment. I don't really understand the love for Brave. My top four Hogarth albums at this time would be Seasons End Marbles Sounds That Can't Be Made Holidays In Eden
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Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 01:14
| Love all of them, but I gotta vote Marbles, Anoraknophobia is as good as everything listed here, and the new album wasn't half bad either. |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 21:49
Marbles.------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 09:11
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1- BRAVE 4.0/5 * 2- AFRAID of SUNLIGHT 3.9/5 * 3- MARBLES 3.8/5 * 4- SEASON'S END 3.5/5 *
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Posted By: LSDisease
Date Posted: August 10 2014 at 09:52
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Season's End the best, Brave close second, I'd add Holidays in Eden and Radiation. Don't like Marbles at all. Afraid of Sunlight is pretty weak record. ------------- "Du gehst zu Frauen? Vergiss die Peitsche nicht!" |
Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: May 08 2016 at 05:21
I have the Somewhere in London dvd, it's great! What's wrong with those two songs (Holidays in Eden and No One Can)? (sorry for bumping this thread, but it's a good one
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Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: May 08 2016 at 06:04
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I'm surprised AOS isn't running away with this. It is one of the most perfect albums ever made by anyone. EVER |
Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: May 08 2016 at 06:08
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For me to listen to Season's End now is to listen to an album by a band that really aren't sure what direction to go in with their new man. Brave is a great album but perhaps a little too overblown. Marbles has some great songs but is patchy. Afraid of Sunlight is just perfect. It has a sense of humour with Cannibal Surf Babe, a great climax with Out of This World and as for King, well that is how to end an album |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 06:46
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Brave I guess I can choose after all :))))
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Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 06:56
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My personal favorite is marillion.com I chose Marbles in this poll.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 08:59
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 09:05
| Marbles is my favorite Marillion album by a large margin. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 09:13
seriously? Fish has some nice solo albums you could try.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 10:36
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^ Ben non/kidding, Hogarth is just perfect. Four strong 4* afaic, Afraid is the most enjoyable personally. ------------- |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 10:41
| I think Brave is more cohesive album, but I went with Marbles. All I really need from that album are Invisible Man, Neverland, and Ocean Cloud, but considering the combined time of those 3 songs adds up to the length of a traditional vinyl album (and it would be one of my all time favorite albums ever if it only contained those 3 songs), that's the one I voted for. |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: September 13 2017 at 15:45
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Marbles, then Brave |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 01:19
| Actually my two favourite H - Marillion albums are This Strange Engine and Happiness Is The Road, but I'm happy to endorse Marbles on the above list. Seasons End and Brave have flat spots for me and I've never liked the first two tracks on Afraid Of Sunlight. |
Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 19:08
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1 - Brave 2 a / 2 b - Afraid Of Sunlight - Marbles 3 -Seasons End |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 14 2017 at 20:54
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But I'm a Fish-only snob, does that mean this poll is not for me? No, I'm KIDDING everyone. But I do have their first 4 studio albums, so I guess it's time to try something with the other guy now. So I actually appreciate this poll.. I'll give Marbles a try and see if I like it. |
Posted By: YESESIS
Date Posted: September 15 2017 at 19:56
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WOW. I just listened to that whole album(meditated to it actually) and it was fantastic! Really great all the way through the last song. Man I'm glad I found this one. |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: October 18 2017 at 13:50
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Brave. It edges Seasons End. Marbles is too patchy. So I bring Brave back to parity with Marbles  |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 15 2018 at 02:08
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Marbles ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 10:34
| bump! |
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 12:03
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Funny, my preferred Marillion albums of these are the ones with the least votes: Season's End and Afraid of Sunlight. I find Brave and Marbles too subdued to really conquer me compared to those other two albums... Will vote for Afraid of Sunlight. ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 12:35
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Virtually impossible to choose between Brave and Marbles, but today it is the former. Just about the finest concept album ever released. Perfect in every way.
EDIT. I see that 11 years ago, I chose Marbles. Oh well! ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: UncleRust
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 14:00
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Marbles...by a very large margin. I was really disappointed by it at first but it really grew on me, especially the longer tracks. Ocean Cloud in particular is just amazing. I might skip over Drilling Holes here and there, though. Brave, for some reason, is a bit too poppy for me. I remember people telling me how dark they thought it was. Apparently, I am darker... Anyway, I listen to it every once in a while but do skip a few tracks. Afraid of Sunlight is ok, but really just the wrong direction from this band for me. Too uneven, and the best songs are still too...something... Simple? Poppy? I don't know, but I might listen to it once a year at most. Oh, and I cannot listen to Cannibal Surf Babe ever.
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Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: November 06 2021 at 21:04
Just to edit my previous post, my opinion of Seasons End has lifted since I made those comments. Also to a degree so has my opinion of Brave, both fine albums. At times you can be too close to an album you've played many times.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 07 2021 at 19:38
| Not sure about this. I have actually heard very few of the albums with Hogarth, but have heard several live albums, including ones with the whole Brave and Marbles, with which I must say I ended up rather disappointed, given how much hipe they get, and I just found little to love (except for the wonderful Neverland, which is among my very favourite Marillion songs). Yet, I get the impression that if I heard them all, my favourite as a whole album would end up being Sounds that can't be Made. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: September 23 2022 at 01:36
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1. Marbles 2. Brave 3. Afraid Of Sunlight 4. Seasons End ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2022 at 02:47
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1. Brave 2. Afraid of Sunlight 3. Marbles 4. Seasons End By the way, I read recently that old PA threads automatically lock themselves after a certain time, and yet this 2010 poll is still running 12 years later.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 23 2022 at 02:56
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^ old threads sometimes survive when they get resurrected from time to time, when there is genuine interest in discussion there. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2022 at 03:13
Thanks. This is the first time I've seen a poll resurrected from as far back as 12 years ago and I still haven't decided whether I prefer the Hogarth, Constable or Turner era.  |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: September 23 2022 at 03:58
I was surprised also finding it. Then being able to add my vote ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 23 2022 at 07:39
| Brave |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: September 24 2022 at 03:09
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Brave! Seasons End, then AOS and Marbles, both some way behind. I know Marbles has some great songs, but as an album overall it’s one that doesn’t get played very much… |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: September 24 2022 at 11:46
same ranking here |