Prog Metal Advice
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Topic: Prog Metal Advice
Posted By: Snow Dog
Subject: Prog Metal Advice
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 06:49
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Can anyone recommend a Prog metal band for me to explore? I'm a big DT fan but don't want a clone. Edit. Bands am familiar with: Pain Of Salvation Symphony X Ark Shadow Gallery Ayreon Voivod Vanden Plas Opeth Devin Townsend Green Carnation Mastodon Fates warning Queensrhyche ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 06:52
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To-Mera ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 06:53
Tell me about them. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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sleeper wrote:Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 07:04
| I'm no PM expert but I would recommend Mastodon especially their latest one. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 07:12
Thanks Alan, I am already familiar with them. I'm also familiar with.......well these obvious ones but it may save time. Pain Of Salvation Symphony X Ark Shadow Gallery Ayreon Voivod Vanden Plas
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 07:20
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Possibly one of the later Vanden Plas albums. I listened to ChristO a few weeks back, and it struck me that they reminded me a lot of DT from the pre-Metropolis II era. Quite good, I found, but at the same time I find it difficult to guarantee that it's not a DT clone. Depends on the current mood, probably. On its own merrits though, I'd recommend it. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 07:25
Sorry to be awkward but I have ChristO. Add Vanden Plas to my list.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 07:45
One of the very few unique bands in the progressive metal genre (not including experimental/post and tech/extreme) combining DT with Cynic and an excellent use of jazz. I know, it doesnt exactly sound unique but give their second album, Delusions, a try and you'll see what I mean. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 07:52
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I see Opeth is not on your list... Blackwater Park is a really stellar example of tech/extreme PM. In that same vein I would recommend Between the Buried and Me's Colors, imo one of the best metal albums ever. ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 07:56
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Loch Vostok
Seventh Wonder
A Piedi Nudi
If you like tech metalcore :
Dillinger Escape Plan
Born Under Saturn
Candiria
iwrestledabearonce ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 08:08
I don't even know what it is. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 08:09
I have a few Opeth. Most of the obvious ones I know ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 08:11
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Green Carnation - The Quiet Offspring, solid - hard but not too hard
Devin Townsend - Ki, again on the borders of metal and other styles of Prog,
Cynic - Traced in Air, just such a great album, the kind that seems very hard when you get to it, but lightens up as time passes.
------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 08:14
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Green Carnation and Devin Townsend I know As I said...the obvious ones I know. And Devin is pretty well known. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 08:15
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Cynic and Devin Townsend are musts. Both Cynic albums are phenomenal, though they are a bit different as some 15 years went by between them. For Devy, Ocean Machine, Terria, Synchestra are the usual starting points.
If you like Opeth, Edge of Sanity's Crimson is great. For gonzo avant-metal, Unexpect's In a Flesh Acquarium is an amazing piece of work.
To-Mera and Aghora, both female-fronted jazz-metal outfits are okay. They both have some really good moments and some well played but color by numbers metal.
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Indukti is a very cool band. I assume you have a little Riverside (they're both Polish and there is some cross-pollenation).
I really like the last Dead Soul Tribe album. Actually better than Psychotic Waltz which I understand is historically important, but doesn't do alot for me now. (Same Singer)
Missed a must have looking at your list:
Sieges Even: Navigating by the Stars If you like modern prog a la Flower Kings and Spock's Beard, this album is just amazing. The metal isn't really aggressive but the prog is strong with this one.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 08:22
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^ You are correct about Riverside and thanks for the rest. I may try some Cynic then.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 09:10
just browse the tech/extreme metal section of PA, and you will find a lot of these bands. These are bands blending hardcore with metal.
You may be interested in jazzcore as well (John Zorn's projects Painkiller and Naked City) ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 09:23
Blending what with metal? I don't like these words so I don't think I'll bother.....maybe I'll listen to some samples. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 09:43
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Blurring the line between heavy prog and prog metal:
Heavy Prog bands:
Enchant
Tiles
Prog Metal bands:
Thought Chamber - singer from Enchant, with some excellent instrumental work. This one always seems to be my first prog metal recommendation. For some reason it just really wowed me when I first heard it.
Roswell Six http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65438&PID=3568221#3568221 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=65438&PID=3568221#3568221
Hourglass - Oblivion to the Obvious. An excellent double CD in my opinion. I believe that Steve (progmetalhead) would concur, although I have seen others who didn't like it.
Anubis Gate - pretty good prog power metal.
Darkwater - debut album was really good. New album coming shortly.
Mindkey - Journey of A Rough Diamond. Good prog metal from Italy. Have a similar sound to DT and Vanden Plas.
Savatage / Jon Oliva's Pain - Progressive power metal/progressive symphonic metal. Metal centered around the keyboards of Jon Oliva.
Pravda - some excellent mostly instrumental prog metal.
Wolverine - strangely enough, a band with death metal growls that really don't bother me all that much.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 09:46
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How ironic!!!! I included Pravda on my list and when I go back to the main menu there is a brand new interview of the band by Torodd. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70960&PID=3828469#3828469 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70960&PID=3828469#3828469 -------------
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 09:50
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A few others Animals as Leaders - excellent djent influenced instrumental jazz metal
Exivious - instrumental album from the "other guys" on Cynic's new album - very good instrumental jazz metal
The Wolverine comment reminded me of Dark Suns - Grave Human Genuine. Kris Gildenlow plays on it, it's a little uneven but the high points are really good. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: progmetalhead
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 10:09
I would definitely concur!!
Have a look around my sig Ian. PM has such vast differences in soundscapes you may have to try a number before you find what you are looking for.
I could go on all day but taking into account who you have mentioned try these bands first:
Time's Forgotten
Heavens Cry
Cirrha Niva
Fragile Vastness
Dante
Haken
Myrath
Redemption ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112" rel="nofollow - http://www.last.fm/user/colt2112 Colt - Admin Team MMA 
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Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 12:01
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Try Atheist. It's a very ecletic death metal band. Their last album Element is a link between Death-Symbolic, Jazz fusion and latin music.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 12:05
Ok......you guys have given me a lot to think about.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 12:44
ACT is called eclectic prog here but I put them down as prog metal and their album The Last Epic is truly epic. It doesn't have any epics, though. 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 12:50
I know ACT well and the reason they are not on my list is because I have never considered them Prog Metal. Just don't hear it myself. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 13:00
------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 13:21
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Threshold is a great British prog metal band, don't know if it's been mentioned.
Circus Maximus
Andromeda
Dereck Sherinian/Planet X
Enchant
Guilt machine
the Quiet Room (their debut album especially, the second one not so much)
Eldritch (the albums before 2001 especially)
Sieges Even/Subsignal
Pagan's Mind
OSI
I'll be back...
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 14:53
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My biggest recommendation to you (knowing your tastes) is Savatage's albums such as Streets or Dead Winter Dead. Also, if you're okay with death metal somewhat in the vein of Opeth, Edge of Sanity's Crimson is an essential masterpiece. ------------- 
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 15:45
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Me likes the following (sorry if some have been suggested already....) Tiles
Indukti - SUSAR great album!
Juvaliant - Thanks to Steve (progmetalhead) he's my hero!
Aspera
Chain - "Reconstruct" very cool concept album
Spheric Universe Experience
Astra
Canvas Solaris
Votum
Circus Maximus
Mindkey - Journey/Rough Diamond...excellent album -------------   
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 16:13
 Listening to this one now. It is pretty good. You might like it. -------------
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 16:39
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I'm assuming you know Liquid Tension Experiment?
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 16:40
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If you like Green Carnation you might want to try In the Woods... and Drawn, same sort of thing as the first two GC albums (Journey to the End of the Night and Light of Day, Day of Darkness) but better. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 17:12
| Check out Unexpect... the weirdest, most avant metal on the site, to my knowledge. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 17:13
Not Prog Metal imo. Besides I'm a DT fan...of course I know them,,,,,,so no mentions of Planet X or any other spin off...I'm not an idiot. Well I am but not regarding being able to piece together a bands members historiies. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 18:42
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Vangough are pretty incredible. ------------- 
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 18:48
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What's your opinion on growly vocals and such? If they don't bother you too badly, and if you want something a bit "avant-garde", then you might not do too poorly by checking out Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 18:58
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Hey how about Dream Theater? Heard they are pretty good....
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Posted By: Nathaniel607
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 19:06
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Well, I quite like a lot of Prog Metal, and I can give some suggestions: Between the Buried and Me (start with The Great Misdirect - definitely their most accesible album. Give them a chance also, it took me a listen or two to get into them) Shadow Gallery (I recommend "Legacy". An amazing album with an absolutely fantastic opener!) Amaran's Plight (A one-time supergroup. It's a great album though) Beyond Twilight (listen to Section X. Very interesting music, but quite catchy as well) Blotted Science (Amazing avant-death-prog-fusion-awesomeness) Diablo Swing Orchestra (Listen to "A Tap-Dancers Dilemna". Very interesting fusion of prog-metal and jazz) Ephrat (An amazing new-ish band! They make really great music. Definitely not DT clones though they do have a fetish with 7/8!) Mind's Eye (Get "A Gentleman's Hurricane". Very good and consistent music with very complex time signature usage) Protest the Hero (Listen to Fortress. Extremely frantic but really spellbinding prog with LOADS of different sections per song) Savatage (Gutter Ballet. Not really proggy but pioneers of the genre with great usuage of acoustic piano) Scale the Summit (Very different instrumental band. Very tight and organized.) Well, that's all I can think of for now, but check them out. Some great bands there! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nathaniel607" rel="nofollow - My Last FM Profile 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: September 03 2010 at 19:12
| Tool? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 07:27
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One of my favourite PM bands, very little known: ^ this one that doesn't embed is my favourite  |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 07:35
OK.....my list is lacking somewhat. Tool Savatge I know 'em ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 08:38
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Very good recommendations above but I will have to second in particular Enchant and Tiles for heavy prog (metal-ish) I hope you are not missing Conception from your list (explore the whole catalogue) Also I have not seen any mention of Crimson Glory and Heir Apparent - legendary bands |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 08:43
Not keen on Enchant but don't consider them metal anyway. Tiles I quite like. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 18:30
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Posted on MMA : Hey prog metal fans, anyone heard the russian band Mechanical Poet. On the fabulous french website guts of darkness their music is described as a cross between 'Harry Potter' and Pain Of Salvation, which is quite fair as they have a strong symphonic side on one hand and the vocalist switches easily from "quiet' to "harsh" and the "metal" music (as opposed to the symphonic one) bears some similarities with PoS on the other hand. I quite enjoy their album 'woodland prattlers' (I listened to it twice during my jogging) Not sure their other albums are on par with this one. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: September 04 2010 at 18:39
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Im guessing someone mentioned Psychotic Waltz by now If not, I highly recommend them! |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 14:26
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^ absolutely essential band for me |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 05 2010 at 14:36
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Try out Empty Tremor. Their music has a heavy Dream Theater flavor, but they're still extremely powerful and emotional; and best of all, I don't consider them to be a clone band.
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Posted By: ndiego
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 16:21
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what about messhugah?, isis? ------------- "What lies north of the North Pole?" Stephen Hawking "Poverty is the worst form of violence." -Mohandas Gandhi |
Posted By: nihilmorari27
Date Posted: September 06 2010 at 17:33
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Disillusion - Back to Times of Splendor
(if you can tolerate death growls)
Exxasens - Beyond the Universe
(this is instrumental, more on post-rock side)
Isis - Wavering Radiant
(this is post-metal, and the most "weird" among these)
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Posted By: WyattEarp
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 09:21
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Coming from a guy that grew up on Metal.
Uriah Heep(Founding Father of the Progressive Metal genre)
I recommend the Magician's Birthday and Demons and Wizards Albums.
Especially the title track on the Magician's Birthday Album.
Then
The Masterpiece:Hall of the Mountain King Album by Savatage
Litmus
That's right bringing back the Lemmy era of Hawkwind!
Their Aurora album is Mind Blowing,it'll mess your world up.
Wayyy more Edgier,Heavier and above all more Spacier than the Lemmy era Hawkwind could ever dream.
Then
Recently last but not least.
Blood Ceremony:
New up and comers in Prog rock.
With that wicked and also hot babe Alia O'Brien on lead vocals and flute
Playing Metal in the tradition of Black Sabbath
http://www.myspace.com/bloodceremony - http://www.myspace.com/bloodceremony
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Posted By: Nathaniel607
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 17:03
I literally cannot get this album - I CANNOT find it anywhere! I love the tracks you showed... can you find it anywhere lol? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nathaniel607" rel="nofollow - My Last FM Profile
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 17:13
I'm glad you liked them. These tracks were from their demo, which if I'm not wrong was never released. It just circulated over the internet (I don't know if legally or not). They have an official album out but the purchase links don't work as the band site is down, I just saw this  |
Posted By: Westsiyeed
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 19:04
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I've had a couple of recent discoveries of bands I now love:
Disillusion - Gloria. Someone also mentioned their first, Back to Times of Spendour (has much more death growls), but I absolutely love Gloria. Has an industrial undertone and some of the vocals are a bit Rammstein, but it has some varied genre influences and is a great album.
Leprous - Tall Poppy Syndrome. A 5 piece from Norway that also combine various influences to create a fantastic album IMO. Their tempo changes blend so well it's almost Opeth-like.
Oh yeah, there's a band called Porcupine Tree that are pretty good
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 07 2010 at 22:54
| I still have to buy the albums, but for what I've heard on YouTube, Alcest is very good too, specially "Eclaille de Lune", which is the album I've heard. This is a french "group" consisting of only one person doing all instruments, however it sounded very good. I just read a review about a band call "Artcell" from Bangladesh, I only heard one song on Youtube, but it was interesting. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 04:42
You have got to be kidding me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ProgEpics
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 09:38
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Circus Maximus - The 1st Chapter..you can hear obvious DT influence but you can hear alot of meshuggah influence as well..they dont have any power metal influence like symphony x. Lots of piano and acoustic stuff to blend with the metal. Also Pagans Mind is a very good band
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Posted By: WyattEarp
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 10:59
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@ Snow Dog What do you mean you got to be kidding me?
Since you've been on Progarchives for 5 years you must know good quality music.
Well
Listening to Heavy Metal bands,i love Uriah Heep(not the 1st),their one of the bands that influenced my love for Prog-Art Rock.
And
They beautifully combine Prog and Heavy Metal,even though their under the Heavy Prog section.
They on their earlier stuff,they did a excellent job of combining Prog and Metal.
Now
If your open mind enough to appreciate Heavy Metal outside the box,you could see my point.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 08 2010 at 12:03
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Italian's VIII Strada are well worth checking out. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4688 - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4688
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 06:36
I think what he's getting at is that they arent metal. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Shevrzl
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 07:05
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Well, I suggest you try Balkandji. Bulgarian band playing delightful folk metal, ooooh yeah!! I see Pagan's Mind had been mentioned, that one's compulsory. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 07:14
Yes that and the fact he thinks I haven't heard Uriah Heep...I mean..what? Plus the fact that they suck anyway.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: taergetiuq
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 10:09
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my ultimate favourite band is Primitai, you should give them a listen as they've recently beaten Iron Maiden to the number one album spot. definitely worth listening to! their songs are awesome, i listen to them 24/7.. hope you like! |
Posted By: DreamInSong
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 10:45
While some are not Prog Metal through and through:
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Posted By: Rolf Bos
Date Posted: September 10 2010 at 21:27
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Farmakon
Death metal from Finland with jazz- and funkinfluences. I only own the "A Warm Glimpse" record. |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: September 12 2010 at 00:49
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I dunno if you've heard "Traced in Air" by Cynic, but it's one of my all-time favorite albums and, I believe, the best metal album of the '00s. Nothing else sounds quite like it. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: September 12 2010 at 04:56
I haven't....thank you. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: September 13 2010 at 13:48
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If you want to stretch your horizons, you can try TO-MERA. I am now listening to Delusions (2008) and blown away - a mix of DT/Symph X, jazz, Opeth, gothic with female vocals - great album |