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Topic: British Hard´n´ Heavy pioneers!Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: British Hard´n´ Heavy pioneers!
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 10:21
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Replies: Posted By: Progatron
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 10:31
Virtually impossible to choose. Zeppelin tends to win these kind of polls largely because they never got a chance to eventually put out stinkers like the other three surely did. They played it right by ending the band upon losing such a key member, and therefore have retained a lot of their mystique. They are the James Dean of these bands.
But as far as I'm concerned, the classic periods of all four bands cannot cancel each other out to me. I honestly don't know which band to choose.
Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 10:58
Led Zep!
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 10:59
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 11:03
I get most enjoyment out of Heap, generally.
But later Deep Purple (with Steve Morse) has been a revelation.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 11:48
Black Sabbath for me.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 11:55
Tull.
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Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 12:23
The Whistler wrote:
Tull.
Witty?
Posted By: Klogg
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 12:53
Deep Purple has a lot of weak albums, so my vote goes to Uriah Heep
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 12:58
Klogg wrote:
Deep Purple has a lot of weak albums, so my vote goes to Uriah Heep
If Deep Purple have a lot of weak albums then Uriah Heep have a majority of weak albums.
Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 13:00
Klogg wrote:
Deep Purple has a lot of weak albums, so my vote goes to Uriah Heep
Uriah heep was many weak albums, Black Sabbath too. Incidentally only.
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 13:04
Snow Dog wrote:
Klogg wrote:
Deep Purple has a lot of weak albums, so my vote goes to Uriah Heep
If Deep Purple have a lot of weak albums then Uriah Heep have a majority of weak albums.
I agree.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 29 2010 at 14:08
Led Zeppelin followed by Deep Purple.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 09:35
Klogg wrote:
Deep Purple has a lot of weak albums, so my vote goes to Uriah Heep
I LOLed...
No Thin Lizzy or UFO?
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 10:27
Cristi wrote:
Klogg wrote:
Deep Purple has a lot of weak albums, so my vote goes to Uriah Heep
I LOLed...
No Thin Lizzy or UFO?
That´s choice of mine. Let create your own thread with your own favourites, please.
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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 11:10
Posted By: Weirdamigo
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 11:38
All fantastic bands:
1. Deep Purple
2. Led Zeppelin
3. Uriah Heep.
4. Black Sabbath
Deep Purple gets my vote because of good ol' Ritchie Blackmore
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 14:58
Despite being a fan of them all Zep is my favourite by a considerable margin.
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 16:59
Led Zep. If it was just based on the first 4 albums, it would be a very close call between Zep and Sabbath.
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 19:27
Sabbath!
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 21:14
I only know well enough Led Zeppelin, which I really like. I've still got to get to know the other bands... but first there's lots of proggier stuff I have to dig.
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 31 2010 at 21:20
I'll vote for Sabbath out of this list. I've never understood the love of Zeppelin, and what little I've heard of Uriah Heep hasn't impressed me at all. I like Deep Purple, but Sabbath is better.
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Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: September 01 2010 at 01:54
someone_else wrote:
Led Zeppelin followed by Deep Purple.
Exactly this.
Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: September 01 2010 at 02:47
deep purple for me
Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: September 01 2010 at 09:34
the Four pioneers had there ups & downs in 40 years , but i voted Heep cause i still listen to them /
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: September 02 2010 at 07:14
Led Zep is legendary
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 06:55
I've a lot of time for the first two Jeff Beck solo albums, Truth and Cosa Nostra (Beckola). In the liner notes of the twoforone CD of these albums, we are told about how Beck wanted to take the heavy sound of Vanilla Fudge (Bogert & Appice) for his music. You get it in some tuneson Truth although we have really a hybrid blues rock album - and look at the session musicians - and it is pretty wholesale on Beckola. Beck's drummer got involved in May Blitz which had its heavy rock moments. We had to wait until 73-74 before Beck got round to playing with those who inspired him (Bogert & Appice). And if you believe those liner notes, also inspired Jimmy Page.
I also think for those who care about roots of heavy rock, listen to Terry Reid's second album Superlungs.
I passing I have a lot of time for Stray's first album as a pioneering example of heavy rock - and these guys were still in their mid teens
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Posted By: Gooner
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 10:59
Deep Purple was an easy one for me. Deep Purple is much more diverse than the others. Symphonic, hard rock...borderline punk on "In Rock", metal...jazz/rock fusion and avant garde(especially their live material) and bluesy. Everything I love about prog.rock and music in general is in Deep Purple. Some albums are stronger than others, but I manage to find some gold nuggets in their turkeys. Might be why my radio programme is titled "The Purple Room".
I would've thrown in Thin Lizzy in this poll as well. I think Thin Lizzy's "Bad Reputation" LP is a masterpiece. Never heard anything quite like it since. In fact, shouldn't Thin Lizzy be on prog.archives? Some of their ealier material certainly qualifies as "prog.related".
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 11:52
Four great bands, Heep just ahead of the others thanks to Ken Hensley's Hammond work.
Posted By: steppenfloyd
Date Posted: September 11 2010 at 18:46
I probably listen to Led Zeppelin the most out of these but I like Black Sabbath the best, mainly b/c of their first album.
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: September 12 2010 at 01:51
Went with the Zep. Great live band.
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: September 12 2010 at 12:34
steppenfloyd wrote:
I probably listen to Led Zeppelin Black Sabbath the most out of these but I like Black Sabbath Led Zeppelin the best
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: September 12 2010 at 18:12
Sabbath for those first 4 albums Brilliant so ..
Sabbath
Purple
Heep
Zepp
Never really understood the fuss about Zeppelin good as they where did they really ever make a master piece of an album ? Zepp 4 maybe, 3 was good to but thats it for me never really been a fan.
Sabbath and Purple just made better albums in my humble Opinion.
and Zepplin happen to be one worse gigs i ever went to, Knebworth was terrible.
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Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: September 13 2010 at 11:49
^ Zeppelin's live shows, as I understand it, did tend to be pretty miserable. But as far as masterpiece albums, Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti come pretty close
Posted By: mohaveman
Date Posted: September 13 2010 at 13:18
1. Zep 2. Heep
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: September 13 2010 at 13:48
Eh, I'll vote LZ
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 00:57
Overall, I'll doubtlessly go with Led Zeppelin, although if I were asked to rank them by the album(s) I like most, it's probably be Deep Purple.
So, based on individual albums, it would look like this:
1) Deep Purple - Deep Purple In Rock 2) Led Zeppelin - LZ II 3) Uriah Heep - Look At Yourself 4) Black Sabbath - Hell, I don't know, one of the first few, I suppose
@ Hawkwise: Nice sig! Could you slow the cycle down a bit? I's like to get a longer look at the individual covers..
Posted By: b4usleep
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 02:36
Led Zeppelin - I, II, III, IV Deep Purple - In Rock, Machine Head, Burn Uraih Heep - Salisbury, Magicians Birthday Black Sabbath - ..........
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 06:13
Heep because it is the proggiest of the bands mentioned
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 14 2010 at 10:01
I enjoy all 4 bands..... but it has to be zeppelin
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Posted By: DeKay
Date Posted: September 17 2010 at 14:18
Led Zeppelin
Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: September 28 2010 at 10:39
Black Sabbath
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: September 28 2010 at 22:28
LZ, then BS.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 01:13
I think I'll go with Cream....no, Vanilla Fudge.....wait, how about Free.....no, I think I'll go with the Jeff Beck Group....how about Iron Butterfly.....pioneers, hmmmm. Good poll.....you should add a whole whack of heavy bands of the late 60s, though.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 01:24
Intruder wrote:
I think I'll go with Cream....no, Vanilla Fudge.....wait, how about Free.....no, I think I'll go with the Jeff Beck Group....how about Iron Butterfly.....pioneers, hmmmm. Good poll.....you should add a whole whack of heavy bands of the late 60s, though.
I had added what I added, that´s my choice.
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 01:39
Besides, Vanilla Fudge and Iron Butterfly isn´t British at all!
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 01:52
Sorry, man. Just thought....well, I've always though Heep, Zep and the lot were 2nd generation hard rock....the pioneers were the Who, Kinks, Yardbirds, et al.
The use of the word "pioneers" confused me, that's all.
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Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 01:54
And I didn't notice the "British" part of the title, just that word "pioneers".
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 01:56
Intruder wrote:
And I didn't notice the "British" part of the title, just that word "pioneers".
I did.
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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: October 01 2010 at 04:23
Zep for me!
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